Apple Announces Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro for iPad With Subscription Models

[Macalway]

No, fight it.

Whatever can deter piracy.
Antying to fight piracy, which ruins it for everyone.

 

[TheSynchronizer]

It's forbear was $799 (ProjectBuilder and Interface Builder with Frameworks) and the optional tools went up to $50k (EOF/WOF Enterprise) per seat.

Yes indeed, that was the case years ago. I was talking specifically about Xcode, i.e. after the rebranding at which point it was already free.

 

[Ethosik]

Both iCloud and external drive are likely given access to the Files app.

iCloud storage with current project stored locally solves the portability aspect but Apple needs to create new tiers above 2TB.

Apple One + 2TB gives me 4TB. I’m using 2.2 TB now.

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

Spoken, no doubt.from a member of a generation that doesn’t own its music, doesn’t own its own home, doesn’t own a car. Rent ware, in the end, is vapor ware.

Finalcut and logic are made for video creation and music creation.
as long as the music is created, and the videos are exported, how is it vaporware? You’ve got the final video, you’ve got the final song.

 

[moonwalk]

Finalcut and logic are made for video creation and music creation.
as long as the music is created, and the videos are exported, how is it vaporware? You’ve got the final video, you’ve got the final song.

If you fail to pay your monthly fee or rent, you lose access to the app and the ability to edit your source material, and lots more. Yuor render files. Your third-party extentions. It's rentware. It's also a no buena if you have a problem with your bank or your credit card and you lose access to your work software. I guess Apple wants you to get an Apple Card so you can hurry up get another vassel / slave job before you lose access to your work tools.

 

[profcutter]

We had a poll recently in a sony-fx-camera group in facebook - and while premiere and davinci were in the lead, FCPX was not far off. I use all three of them professionally (Premiere at my employed work because my employer wants it that way, FCPX as a self employed because time equals money snd I'm faster with FCP and DaVinci for grading).

I’d love to see the link to that group post. I’m feeling a bit out of the loop, compared to when I taught video production for a living!

 

[profcutter]

If you fail to pay your monthly fee or rent, you lose access to the app and the ability to edit your source material, and lots more. Rentware.

A real concern, given what happened to folks with FCP7 projects. Yes, eventually there was a workflow to get those projects working in FCPX. But how about today? If you have an FCP7 project you want to revisit? You know what you need to get it working? FCP7. Try to run that on a modern machine.

 

[Macalway]

But realistically, In regards to Logic, without full plug-in support this is extremely limited still. A large percentage of DAW functionality is as a plugin host. I imagine there are many people where this isn't the case, but for some it is, unfortunately. But this is certainly welcome.

 

[slb]

I fear this is testing the water for making the desktop versions require a subscription.

 

[jaceapoc]

Subscription, huh? I'm pretty sure Steve Jobs is rolling in his grave at such high speeds right now, if we plugged his corpse to a generator, he could be generating enough electricity to power a small town of 50K people.

 

[Ctrlos]

Lost of complaining about the sub but Apple don't do cross-buy between the iPad and Mac and forking out a fiver a month to at least test out the app is a lot better than another one-off of £300 which they could have got away with charging.

 

[4743913]

For those of you wondering why now....

 

[MetalMac]

Hmm no word on plugin support..
At least the A12 will run Logic. For video there's already Davinci so I'll skip that one.

 

[groove-agent]

I'd be all for it except for the subscription model. Ugh.

Logic is intriguing with multi-touch fader support (like the Slate Raven monitor), but none of your plugins are going to work on it so is it really going to persuade Pro music guys over? Too early to tell I think.

 

[groove-agent]

It’s much more reasonable to sell a 300$ software on Mac that on an iPad (a device that cost less than half compared to a MacBook Pro). Also, 49$ per year is much more affordable than Adobe, so i don’t think that it is all that bad

That's a very good point.

I digress but I wish Apple would make a Photoshop equivalent.

 

[4743913]

I'd be all for it except for the subscription model. Ugh.

<<laughs in iPad Mini 6>>

 

[Mac... nificent]

I just love the stupid argument people are making. “Omg. Subscription? Yuck. Paying $300 is way better. That’s 6 years worth of subscriptions!”

Yeah…what if you don’t need 6 years worth of editing and to pay for ALL that right now. I might just wanna edit a wedding video or something real quick and cancel. Then I’m only a whopping…$5 in.

An iPad app for $300 would be unheard of in most cases. Now if they wanted to charge $99 for the app I'm sure most people would jump on that and buy it.

So you think you're going to make a professional wedding video for $5? And when exactly, or how much of your time are you going to spend - to learn how to use the program? BTW You can make a wedding video (for free) with iMovie

 

[Mac... nificent]

I digress but I wish Apple would make a Photoshop equivalent.

Yep, they should just buy Serif (Affinity) and put their name on it

 

[Luki1979]

Wait so you guys would prefer paying $250 than $5 a month? Please. Subscription make sense for iPad

 

[groove-agent]

I'm actually ok with the subscription model. I don't do a lot of video editing. In the past I had purchased a copy of Final Cut Pro Studio for several hundred $$$, but didn't really us it as a much as I I thought I would. Now, when I have the need, I can subscribe for a month, edit my video, then cancel the subscription until I need it again.

The ideal subscription customer is one who uses it sparingly, but forgets to cancel, much like a gym membership. I've done this several times with my World of Warcraft subscription.

 

[nathansz]

Wait so you guys would prefer paying $250 than $5 a month? Please. Subscription make sense for iPad

Whatever the ipad version of logic is it won’t be able to do every that the Mac version does

So these sorts of price comparisons don’t really make much sense

It whatever it can do will be much more difficult

How many windows can you have open on an ipad?

 

[groove-agent]

Yep, they should just buy Serif (Affinity) and put their name on it

Agreed.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

IMO subscription models really hurt artists.

I don’t think there’s a single artist that would turn down getting $5.00 a month from a few thousand fans between producing content… which is what a subscription is.

Most artists wouldn’t consider that “hurting”.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

You'll have to go back to dead folks since it started back in the 1600s. It just took awhile to migrate to software.

I hate subscriptions. It upsets me so much that I’m going to go to my subscribed electricity fridge, get a cold glass of subscribed water and go relax with something on my subscribed network access via by subscribed media delivery company. But, yeah, hate subscriptions.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

Uggggg not Apple too!

How long until final cut and logic on the Mac become subscription only.

The better question is how long until the Mac is no longer supported by Apple. Because that’ll definitely happen first.