Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple Announces Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro for iPad With Subscription Models
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Nah, they’ll very likely stop supporting macOS entirely, first. And these are just the final steps towards that eventual endpoint.
Of course, I don't like subscription models, but I bought Logic Pro when it dropped to $200 years ago, which might be the greatest software deal I've ever snagged, considering how much has been added to Logic since I bought it. I don't have FCP, given that I don't really need it and have Adobe CC courtesy of my employer, but think about it: the Mac versions of Logic and FCP cost $500 combined. If you have an iPad Pro but no Mac, it would take 10 years of the subscription model to reach $500, assuming Apple doesn't raise the price. The question I have, though, since I do have the Mac version of Logic, is whether the iPad version would give me anything I can't do with the Mac version.
Since iPad versions can run on MacOS, could it be possible they'll stop updating FCP and Logic Pro X for MacOS and simply perpetuate these iPad versions with a subscription model on both iPad and FCP?
If so, sneaky dickens.
I'm curious why you have subs for both Finale and Sibelius. I've always preferred Sibelius, but haven't tried them recently.
It supports plug ins, BUT the developer have to make them available. One, PianoTeq, has already hit upon a solution to “how do I charge a lot for the desktop version yet still have it available for the iPad?”
Modartt: Pianoteq overview
www.modartt.com
For most, it’s going to be about how they can make it work for them financially, moreso than technically.
On the other hand, if the software sucks, at least you don't need to pay for it.
$200 for a perpetual license would have been nice, they could be thinking the subscription model on iPad OS pays for swifter development across the desktop apps as well. I cant imagine they have many new customers for FCP/LP on desktop these days so no extra funding there.
You'll probably lose a couple of features / gain a couple of features. Plugins is one I'd guess that you might lose, at least till development catches up. But gain the ability to utilize a ton of other App based synths etc.. within Logic, not to mention a whole lotta portability.
Well, it apparently does not exist for you. I am very interested in this announcement. I just started evaluating Resolve and will take advantage of the free month for FCP to do a comparison. I have my iPad Pro with me more often than my MacBook Pro and would like a way to edit videos conveniently away from a desk. I have seen people use a touch screen and pencil on a tablet to do impressive things. I am open to learning something new.
You remind me of the photographers that sneer at certain models of cameras or lights as “toys” or not “professional” despite the large number of people who use them successfully to create excellent work. For some reason, anything that doesn’t meet their specific needs is obviously useless in general.
As far as all serious IT people allegedly considering iPads as toys: I published my first book on programming in 1980 and am a system architect. Get off my lawn.
No need to pay for testing app, one month free trial...
The thing with subscription models is you can pay them each month and they can simply sit back and do nothing. Look at Avid Pro Tools. It took those guys 3 years to produce a beta version of Apple Silicon Pro Tools. Pro Tools costs $29.99 per month so that would be over $1000 to get Apple Silicon support. That's twice as much as a perpetual (permanent) license.
With paid updates, they have to produce something worthwhile to get paid. That could even be a compatibility update for a new MacOS.
It’s not an exaggeration. ☹️I feel like there should always be a perpetual, or permanent licence option with every subscription. Before we know it, we'll be paying out dozens of companies and struggling to keep track of all the payments. Some are organized enough, but life gets busy and sometimes we forget. This is what they're counting on. Maybe the EU will enforce subscription software developers to also offer a permanent license some day.
Before developers would have to give people a reason to pay an upgrade price. Now theoretically they can sit around and do nothing and get paid. This is going to sound harsh, but sometimes I see software subscriptions as ransomware: "continue pay us or you don't get to use our software". I'm exaggerating, but you get the idea.
The day Apple stops supporting Mac will even the world Ends.
I can download AU files from Safari and installed them on my iPad via Settings and Files. Don’t need to use the App Store.It supports plug ins, BUT the developer have to make them available. One, PianoTeq, has already hit upon a solution to “how do I charge a lot for the desktop version yet still have it available for the iPad?”
Modartt: Pianoteq overview
For most, it’s going to be about how they can make it work for them financially, moreso than technically.
Actually perfect for one-off while traveling. Sub $4.99. Get project prototyped, preview?, teaser? Saved on iCloud and final back at home in Mac and cancel iPad sub.
Apple today announced that Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro are coming to the iPad later this month via subscription models.
Subscribe to the MacRumors YouTube channel for more videos.
Apple says that Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro feature all-new touch interfaces that take advantage of multi-touch on the iPad:
Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro for the iPad will each be available for $4.99 per month or $49.99 per year, with a one-month free trial. Final Cut Pro requires an iPad with an M1 chip or newer, while Logic Pro requires an A12 Bionic iPad or newer. The apps will be available on the App Store starting on Tuesday, May 23.
Final Cut Pro
Final Cut Pro includes a digital jog wheel to navigate the Magnetic Timeline, move clips, and make frame-accurate edits. Live drawing allows users to draw and write directly on top of video content with the Apple Pencil, with support for Apple Pencil hover to skim and preview footage. Key commands are enabled when using an external keyboard. Final Cut Pro on iPad also supports the 12.9-inch iPad Pro's Reference Mode for color accurate editing.
Machine learning features include Scene Removal Mask to quickly remove or replace backgrounds without using a green screen, Auto Crop for adjusting footage for vertical, square, and other aspect ratios, and Voice Isolation to remove background noise easily.
The app includes a library of graphics, effects, and audio, including HDR backgrounds, animated patterns, and soundtracks that automatically adjust to the duration of a video.
Pro camera mode allows creators to shoot video in Final Cut Pro in landscape or portrait, monitor audio and recording time, and manually control settings like exposure, white balance, and focus. Multicam video editing automatically synchronizes clips for editing together, making it possible to switch angles with a single touch.
Media can be imported from Files or Photos and saved directly inside a Final Cut Pro project. The app also supports import of projects created in iMovie, and users can export Final Cut Pro projects made on iPad to the Mac.
Logic Pro
Logic Pro for the iPad uses a range of multi-touch gestures to play software instruments and and navigate projects. The Apple Pencil facilitates precision edits and detailed drawn track automation. Like Final Cut Pro, key commands are supported when using an external keyboard. Using the iPad's built-in microphones, users can also capture audio directly in the app.
The app has a full-featured mixer with channel strips, volume faders, pan controls, plug‑ins, sends, and precise automation. Multi-touch lets creators move and mix multiple faders at once, and the mixer meter bridge lets them navigate an overview of track levels.
An all-new sound browser with dynamic filtering helps creators explore all available instrument patches, audio patches, plug‑in presets, samples, and loops in one location. Users can simply tap to listen to any sound before adding it to a project.
The app includes over 100 instruments and effect plug-ins, with plug-in tiles for the most important controls. Production tools enable users to chop and flip samples, program beats and bass lines, and create custom drum kits.
A new time and pitch-morphing plug-in called Beat Breaker allows creators to swipe and pinch to reshape and shuffle sounds. The Quick Sampler can chop and transform samples into new playable instruments, while Step Sequencer lets users program drum patterns, bass lines, and melodies, and automate plug‑ins. Drum Machine Designer offers the ability to create custom drum kits by applying samples and plug‑ins to any drum pad. Using Live Loops, users can quickly build arrangements.
Logic Pro for the iPad supports roundtrip capabilities to move projects between Logic Pro for the Mac and iPad. iPad users can export completed... Click here to read rest of article
Article Link: Apple Announces Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro for iPad With Subscription Models
Last edited:
About time! This should have been available for the iPad Pro a long time ago.
A couple of thoughts:
It would be good if they had an AppleOne flavour that includes Pro subscriptions, wasn’t the whole point of that subscription that it encompasses all Apple subscriptions?
Logic Pro on an iPad Pro with no headphone Jack… if you need to use headphones this will be painful with the latency over Bluetooth unless they have a fix for that?
A couple of thoughts:
It would be good if they had an AppleOne flavour that includes Pro subscriptions, wasn’t the whole point of that subscription that it encompasses all Apple subscriptions?
Logic Pro on an iPad Pro with no headphone Jack… if you need to use headphones this will be painful with the latency over Bluetooth unless they have a fix for that?
USB-C docks/hubs. Preferably Thunderbolt 4. Aux In and a few USB-A ports gets all of my instruments and headphones connected. If it works for GarageBand it should be fine with Logic Pro. And that’s not considering iPadOS 17 potentially bringing multi-audio controls (assuming it’s for all iPads that support these apps, maybe just M1)
Actually, it would take 5 years to reach that $500 if you’re subscribing to both FCP and Logic.
The memory is built on the SOC and it is exactly the same on an iPad as it is on a Mac with the same SOC.
Yes, heat dissipation is surely an issue, but throttling alone is unlikely to affect performance to the point of stopping use of certain VST plugins (which was the original point I was replying to).
Replies should be looked at in context.
Thanks for sharing this and the license agreement, interesting. But one can choose not to upgrade the operating system if they change things or take something away.