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not only that, but all files must be in a library on your iPad. So, no external storage support in FCP..
and apparently not edit on an SSD or any other external drive has to be internal to the iPad.
Wait, what??!! I mean, even Luma Fusion which is super cheap has external SSD compatibility! I’m glad I bought Luma Fusion a while ago…
 
Given that MacBooks are supposedly getting touchscreens in a couple years according to Mark Gurman, I can actually see these iPad touch-optimized apps becoming the next main versions of Final Cut and Logic for macOS.

I am very fearful of this
 
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it is an amazing feat to re-invent complex professional softwares like Final Cut or Logic for the iPad, for Touch, for a different environment and usage model and still end up with something that makes sense in its own right but also compliments the MacOS version in a sensible productive way. No small feat. I wonder if plug-ins, VSTs etc will work, as especi

We have no idea yet if this “feat” has actually been accomplished or not.
 
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Logic has gotten dumbed down over the years and lacks some thing, basically because Apple doesn’t pay attention to it often enough.

If we focus on 'bang for the buck' Logic is the best DAW out there.
The sound library alone is worth more than the asking price.

As for "dumbing down", in my 10 years of ownership I have only seen feature after feature being added and nothing having been "dumbed down" or removed.
 
They’re probably doing subscriptions because the App Store doesn’t support paid upgrades.

If only the FCP and LP teams had some influence at the company that runs the App Store.
Very true! Good theory.

But… can’t the AppStore support up to payments like $10,000 or something ridiculous?
 
It’s much more reasonable to sell a 300$ software on Mac that on an iPad (a device that cost less than half compared to a MacBook Pro). Also, 49$ per year is much more affordable than Adobe, so i don’t think that it is all that bad
Exactly. Subscription that is reasonably priced is fine. At $50, that’s 6 years until you hit $300. That’s not bad. At. All.

Adobe can go F itself.
 
Logic has gotten dumbed down over the years and lacks some thing, basically because Apple doesn’t pay attention to it often enough.
What has been dumbed down about logic? I've been using Logic Pro since version 7 and have only seen it blossom into the same incredibly powerful DAW but become even more user-friendly with feature after feature being added.
 
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I think the subscription model is obnoxious, but I totally understand it.
In the 2000s, whenever a new version of Finalcut or Logic was released, you had to go out and buy it. Usually full price too, and back then both were much closer to $1000.
Meanwhile, if you bought Final Cut Pro X on day one in 2011, you’ve gotten 12 years of free updates. And it shows, seeing as the anpp only gets a major update once every four years or so. outside of that, it’s barely touched.
So a subscription model is exactly what I would’ve expected, hopefully that means it gets maintained better.
And I still hope there’s a one time purchase option coming down the road.
That’s the hope, right?

Subscription = updates often.

(That’s Adobe’s pitch, anyways)
 
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I found the license agreement and read the sections and didn’t see anything about revoking access. Correct me if I’m wrong though.

One could use the current version offline and I assume it would sill function.

I’m sure there are times when one is not connected to thd internet and needs to edit a project.

With Adobe subscription it’s different as the software is always phoning home to verify active subscription.
Apple can revoke your access to open the application…
They can also revoke your access to your Apple ID, which would have your purchase included, stopping you from downloading it on future computers.
As much as you want to think so, you do not own FinalCut Pro. You paid a one time licensing fee, that doesn’t mean anything.
 
Do you... think producers don't use a variety of listening devices to tweak and reach a final mix? Or that songwriters don't use casual listening devices to compose demo tracks on the go?
One serious problem with Bluetooth headphones is latency. What you hear in the headphones/earbuds is typically out of sync with whatever is happening on the recording/playback device. When you're just playing back audio, it's fine. When you're trying to perform or input something while listening over a Bluetooth connection... that's where the problems start.

I think a wired connection is the only realistic option when you're actually trying to do something in real time with the music/audio.

Regardless, what you said is true, that many producers and engineers do use a variety of listening devices during mixdown and mastering. About the part with composing tracks on the go, however, Bluetooth doesn't work well for the reasons I stated above.
 
Given that MacBooks are supposedly getting touchscreens in a couple years according to Mark Gurman, I can actually see these iPad touch-optimized apps becoming the next main versions of Final Cut and Logic for macOS.
I wasn't aware that Gurman had predicted or said this. I must have missed something.
 
Of course, you don't have to buy such products if they don't appeal to you.

Sure but it would be unfortunate if the product I already use gets replaced with something inferior rather than continuing to be improved
 
There there, I don’t think there was any aggression in my messages. I’ve been using logic since around 2009 when I got my first Mac and bought an iPad Pro with the idea of being able to compose/orchestrate using the likes of garage band while on the move. We’ve been taken down this path of wireless everything and while I love it for the most part, it would be amazing to be able to create on an iPad using AirPods. No wires, no dongles, no audio interface etc. I don’t think that’s a lot to ask.

With hindsight I probably over-reacted so I apologise for that, but I felt that your personal comment about my creative process was patronising.
What I personally do as a composer/musician is complex, and completely irrelevant to the point being discussed.

In your original post you were wishing for a headphone socket.
In my reply to you I simply pointed out that (Quote) "If you are using Logic Pro, in most cases your device is going to be connected to an audio interface".
I entirely stand by that comment.

Obviously we all use our tools to do different things in different ways, but:
  • If one is recording/composing music, in a studio or on the move, they will almost invariably be using an external device, such as a musical instrument, a MIDI controller or a microphone (unless they are simply shifting Loops about, in which case I doubt that latency would ever be a problem)
  • To plug any of the above devices to an iPad one will almost invariably need an audio interface, however...
  • ...it is also true that a MIDI controller can be plugged in directly using USB. I do this on my iPad from time to time if I am composing on the move (I currently use Cubasis for this purpose on the iPad, or I carry a dedicated MBP for Logic if I need to record multitrack). When I do this I use a small hub that allow me to plug my Akai MPK mini controller, my headphones, and allow me to keep the iPad under charge at the same time .
  • Composing using the on screen keyboard is really not my thing, but for those doing this, all that is required is either an Apple USB-c to Headphone Jack or, if they want to charge at the same time, a similar Hub to the one I mentioned earlier.
  • I am not saying that low latency on Bluetooth headphones will never be a thing, but it will require an entirely new Bluetooth standard so, for the moment at least, it is indeed a lot to ask.
 
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Do you... think producers don't use a variety of listening devices to tweak and reach a final mix? Or that songwriters don't use casual listening devices to compose demo tracks on the go?
There’s even one that intentionally mixed for laptop speakers because he knew that’s what most of his audience would be listening on. Went on to make quite a bit of money on that.
 
For a second just a second I thought if logic Pro goes subscription, I’d get rid of the Mac…. But then why would I want to leave the Mac after being on it since 1992… I guess I would have to move to a different DAW but I’ve been on logic for 30 years
 
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