Apple Announces iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max With Triple-Lens Rear Camera and Midnight Green Color

[limo79]

Don't you think the "bump" is there for a reason? They could flatten the cameras, but they'd they be giving up very important physics-driven reasons for the depth of the camera stack. Instead, they work with light physics to achieve the best results, and if that requires a slight bump, so be it.

And the increase in lenses is just a progression of technology as a whole, not to copy what the competition is doing. If each lens was the same, then maybe, but each lens is specialized in its job. The hardware and software has evolved to the point where it now makes sense to support multiple lens. It's more coincidence than copying. But believe what you might.

Frameless screen? Don't you realize that the bezel actually serves a purpose? Who wants their fingers covering the screen? You're fishing for reasons to make iPhones look bad, when they are actually more practical in everyday use.

Face ID is stellar. Apple could embed Touch ID into the screen, but clearly the technology is not ready yet. Unless you want them to copy the competition now? See the contradiction here?

Overall, the latest iPhone continues to keep the bar high that leads the industry. You can't argue that. I'm thinking you want them to be different for the sake of being different, but that's not a consumer-first focus. That's a tech-first focus.

Apple has delivered a great device, again. No arguments.

It is the ugliest iPhone ever and if they want get stunning photo image quality it was proven by Google
PIXEL that you do not need a thousands of lens. If you want to beat competitors made one or two lens camers but with bigger diameter and you do not need bumps over bumps but just design like Nokia Lumia 925 with smooth shaping in lens area or 1020 if you want to be Pro If Apple wants to beat Huawei in terms of number of lens this is madness. They do not have any chance to win this race as long they do not start to design camera modules and OLED screens by itself. Samsung start to sell Galaxy Fold this September and even if flex rigid technology is not perfect and expensive they push technology forward like Tesla and Space X (not just talking like Apple but doing some giant steps). Apple "tick tick tick tick" roadmap inspired by Intel. 64GB is a joke while Samsung Galaxy 10 128GB cost half of iPhone 11 Pro in EU.

 

[LuciusWrong]

Apple has been watching Davie504 on youtube, and they are jealous of how much Davie likes "Triple Camera Guy". So Apple designs triple camera phone, but will Davie504 notice? Probably not.

 

[Hieveryone]

Excuse my ignorance but what does usb-c give you?

Main thing it gives you is flexibility.

No usb c I don’t see how it’s pro

 

[Yojimbo007]

Love the new camera features.. huge leap forward for me. Going for the Silver Pro Max 512.. selling my Xs 512 on Ebay... net will be something around 700ish..

 

[felixroqu3]

Hahahaha. 8am est preorder.

Who’s calling out of work to sit on the computer for this?

Think I’ll take the Blue Pill this year.

Viagra?

 

[Ortiz83]

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They start at $1749 in Australia which is crazy

How is it crazy when in Australia, they earn more. Which comes out to the same thing.

 

[Mactendo]

Very happy to read that. I hope you're right. Silly thing is that it's the camera that draws me most--I've welcomed a new baby the last year, and it's silly the amount of photos we take. I want them to be the best they can be, so any camera bump (teehee) is a good thing.

The camera quality, resolution, etc is the same as on the Max model. Video recording is really great with stereo sound.
In comparison to iPhone 7 camera it’s probably amazing But you decide of course.

 

[HVDynamo]

Main thing it gives you is flexibility.

No usb c I don’t see how it’s pro

Honestly, I don't really care. I prefer lightning because all I ever do with my phone is charge it and occasionally sync to the computer. between the two physical connectors, lightning is just better still. So USB C doesn't give me anything other than the frustration of having to replace cables again. I recognize I don't have the only use case, but for me I am happy it still has lightning.

 

[Rob_2811]

Haha I just WISH Phil had said:

We set out to do something that has NEVER been done before on iPhone.

We put a team together of our best and brightest minds and now bring you

Faster charging, right out of the box...

Crowd: YAYAYAYYYAYAYAYAYAY

You have to hand it to them they cling to these penny pinching measures for as long as they possibly can. Absolutely shameless.

Remember the 16gb iPhone? The trusty 64gb SKU has got a few more years in it yet.

 

[fourthtunz]

Main thing it gives you is flexibility.

No usb c I don’t see how it’s pro

How so, I have a new mac mini and it connects just fine to it.
I guess its a faster protocol which would make it quicker to transfer content when you get the
phone but other than that..

 

[class77]

Sure would have liked to hear about something other than the freaking cameras and that ugly camera array

They mentioned stuff in passing that I was interested in like: Improved cellular??(is that because they are using Qualcomm modems?) and has been a weak point with my Xs. Also mentioned WiFi6 compatible and didn't go into it. Improved facial recognition?? Is it wider or faster because of iOS 13 or what?? What happened to the reverse charging so I could charge Airpods?? Android has been able to do this for at least a year.

Miss Craig Federighi. He's by far Apple's best presenter

 

[fourthtunz]

You have to hand it to them they cling to these penny pinching measures for as long as they possibly can. Absolutely shameless.

Remember the 16gb iPhone? The trusty 64gb SKU has got a few more years in it yet.

Proper I/O ?

Proper I/O? for what?

 

[Hieveryone]

You have to hand it to them they cling to these penny pinching measures for as long as they possibly can. Absolutely shameless.

Remember the 16gb iPhone? The trusty 64gb SKU has got a few more years in it yet.

Next thing you know they’ll discontinue the Apple stickers because, well, 2 cent saved

 

[WaxedJacket]

I'm already planning on keeping my XS for years to come but wow none of this seems exciting. Kinda feel bad for the ones who had high expectations for this model.

 

[HVDynamo]

Something to justify the price of a new iPhone, escpecially after they had a year to work on it

Better battery (longer than a day)
OLED
5G

But they did improve the battery fairly significantly (Maybe not longer than a day, but that isn't as easy as you might think with all the other features they cram in)
They make one and have been making one with an OLED screen for a couple years now.
5G - fair.

 

[DNichter]

This is a funny group of people. You'd think the phone was attached to your head the way people complain about it. It's a phone that has been getting slightly better every year for 12 years. I really don't know what people are expecting at this point, but I have never seen adults cry as often as I do in a MacRumors forum.

 

[TonyC28]

I'm planning to upgrade from my iPhone 8 and the main thing I'm looking for is a better camera so the iPhone 11 looks good for me. I'm probably being a little picky about this, but I find the use of "pro" for the more expensive model to be a bit odd since a true professional most likely wouldn't be shooting photos or video with an iPhone. "Plus" may have been better but whatever. Nothing hugely impressive here but for those upgrading from iPhone 8 or previous the 11 seems worth it.

 

[roland.g]

I'm in the exact same boat. The X was a stunning jump. I skipped XS, my first skip in years. I had every intention of getting the small Pro. After comparing the specs on Apple's website I'm not so sure anymore.

Also, Dolby Atmos on a Phone??!? Don't get me started. lol

I said if it a camera based upgrade which is really the only upgrade, then it would not be worth it. I would take a new phone that was 25-40% thicker if that all went to dramatic battery life increase. I realize they said 4 extra hours which really means 2-3 at best. But come on they got so thin they are tough to hold on to. Make it a bit thicker and increase the size of the battery.

 

[Hieveryone]

This is a funny group of people. You'd think the phone was attached to your head the way people complain about it. It's a phone that has been getting slightly better every year for 12 years. I really don't know what people are expecting at this point, but I have never seen adults cry as often as I do in a MacRumors forum.

It’s real simple, they said by “innovation” only.

Spinach green is NOT innovation.

As an Apple user, I expect the best products bc I’m paying top dollar.

And then when they come out with a spec bump asking for a fresh stack it’s no wonder people are outraged

We might be Apple loyalists but that loyalty comes with the minimal expectation of better products. Not just new color, faster charger, congrats! now go thanks.

 

[archer75]

Sure would have liked to hear about something other than the freaking cameras and that ugly camera array

They mentioned stuff in passing that I was interested in like: Improved cellular??(is that because they are using Qualcomm modems?) and has been a weak point with my Xs. Also mentioned WiFi6 compatible and didn't go into it. Improved facial recognition?? Is it wider or faster because of iOS 13 or what?? What happened to the reverse charging so I could charge Airpods?? Android has been able to do this for at least a year.

Miss Craig Federighi. He's by far Apple's best presenter

5G next year as part of the QUALCOMM deal.
It has wifi6 though you'd have to upgrade your home wireless to use it.
Face ID is faster and works at wider angels, this is hardware.
Reverse charging was scrapped last minute as they weren't happy with the efficiency of it. You'll see it on next years iphones. Along with 5G and in screen thumbprint reader and a new design.

 

[Defthand]

Where’s one more thing? Where’s Apple Tag?

This is first keynote I've watched in three years. I simply couldn't stand Cook's uninspiring and unconvincing endorsements. Nor did I want to waste time hearing about emoji, memoji, and watchbands. I watched today's keynote because Cook had said that this year's developments would "blow us [sic] away". He hasn't lost his gift for exaggerating people's opinions.

 

[onqun]

I am very disappointed. It was boring, no excitement at all very predictable, they need to wake up, I believe they are now consuming their reputation. Price of the pro version is ridiculous. I am glad they also introduced cheaper one. I was expecting MacBook Pro 16 inch in the final.

 

[Rob_2811]

Proper I/O? for what?

Well..

100 watts of charging power vs the 12 watts max that lightning provides (that Apple calls fast charging!) and USB 3.1 transfer speeds out of the box for a start.

 

[chrismichael83]

Not sure why they had to name it pro. They should have gave the Pro Max pencil support at least for those who want that feature on their bigger iphone and to compete with the note.
Battery life on paper sounds good. Camera upgrades. Thats really all I got from the upgraded models. Rumors had it they were moving the logo in the center for reverse charging. I see the centered logo but no reverse charging.

 

[Eorlas]

Thanks for killing my battery with the update on my Iphone max XS and coming out with a new one with better battery. D’oh!!!!!

it's known that updates will cause a drop in battery life for a short period of time while the OS optimizes.

i was running the ios 13 beta until a jb became available for 12.4 and even that was running fine. no need to create the "new phones so the old ones are gimped now" drama.