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For that price they can't throw in a fast charger and 128K memory?
Looks like my SE will have to last another year - handy size, touch ID, good battery life ... if only Apple gave that model a refresh!
 
I LOVE the Midnight Green color. Like really really love it. Nice to see them get into the green spectrum on products again. Been too long. For far too many years they only offered gold, gray and white colors mostly. So I really appreciate what they have been doing with thr line the last few years. Although I would really like to see a vivid cobalt blue of some sort.
 
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I would say they’re “improved” but it’s like a spec bump.

Like we added 15 more horsepower to the new model vehicle but it’s mostly a carry over minus white stitch in the leather and new wood grain color options and new tail lamps.

Not innovation.

It’s an improvement over the previous generation, just like the last 11 iPhones. First time following an iPhone release?
 
Regarding the 11 vs 11pro: I always use a case so the rear materials mean nothing to me, and the 3rd lens won’t make a meaningful difference to my mediocre photography. That said, what do you get for the extra $300?
 
Regarding the 11 vs 11pro: I always use a case so the rear materials mean nothing to me, and the 3rd lens won’t make a meaningful difference to my mediocre photography. That said, what do you get for the extra $300?

They gimped it, because now the two-lens iPhone (11) doesn't include the telephoto lens, which was the actually useful one (far better portraits).

So the sweet spot would be an iPhone Xs (wide + tele) at the price of an iPhone 11, but that's not going to happen, because it would sabotage sales of the iPhone 11 Pro.

Looks like my iPhone 7 is going on at least another year – certainly not paying $1700AU for wireless charging and telephoto, at the same 64 GB storage as I already have.
 
I'm waiting for the iPhone 12 Pro Max Ultra Turbo.

The stupid names aside, the +4h battery life would mean that in real life I'd probably only have to charge the phone only once a day on busy days (besides the all-night charge) and on slow days I might actually survive without having to charge. I'd buy that but I assume the pricing will be ~$1200 which translates to pretty much 2000e when it finally arrives to our backwater. Most of my clients won't be willing to pay that much for a laptop so I've got a hard time justifying buying a phone that expensive.

The new watch looks almost interesting (as it, too, seems to survive almost a full day on a charge) but if I can't find an iPhone that meets my needs I'll finally have to look elsewhere and that means I won't have any use for the watch either.

And yes, you can pay it in monthly instalments but that doesn't make the total price any lower. But it still manages to get loads of people to buy it even though they can't really afford it. Oh well, Someone Else's Problem.
I heard the iPhone 12 Pro Max Normally Aspirated performs better than the Turbo.
 
So here in the UK prices actually went up by £50 on Pro models. the 256GB model which I paid £1249 for last year now costs £1299. What an absolute joke, they kept prices the same as last year in the US and reduced the cost of the iPhone 11.

So basically Apple hasn't lost money either way over here. They've reduced prices of the iPhone 11 by £50 but then passed that saving on to be covered by those that buy the Pro model. Absolute disgrace.

On top of the price increase they produce the most ugliest looking camera ever released on a smartphone. A long pill shape like most smartphones would look better.

I've loved Apple products for many years but this is pushing it. I honestly hope sales tank by like 20m units or something.
 
Okay, that's ugly. Yeah I said it! No wonder Jony Ive couldn't hang around any longer.
 
So here in the UK prices actually went up by £50 on Pro models. the 256GB model which I paid £1249 for last year now costs £1299. What an absolute joke, they kept prices the same as last year in the US and reduced the cost of the iPhone 11.

So basically Apple hasn't lost money either way over here. They've reduced prices of the iPhone 11 by £50 but then passed that saving on to be covered by those that buy the Pro model. Absolute disgrace.

On top of the price increase they produce the most ugliest looking camera ever released on a smartphone. A long pill shape like most smartphones would look better.

I've loved Apple products for many years but this is pushing it. I honestly hope sales tank by like 20m units or something.

Don't forget, prices will go up even further if Boris gets his way and crashes us out the EU without a deal on the 31st and the little remaining value in our Pound wiped off over night
 
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That was kinda disappointing for me.....

1) Better Cameras -- cool stuff, but with the exception of "Night Mode" the photos have been great since the iPhone 7 Plus dual camera system
2) 4 or 5 hours more battery life -- awesome for some folks, but when I put my iPhone on the charger at night it has at least 35% to 55% battery left
3) More angles for Face ID -- everybody wants this, but going to have wait for reviews to find out how good in practice -- not enough to entice an upgrade (Touch ID + Face ID would tempt me)
4) Faster processor -- the iPhone is so screaming fast already and I am glad it is getting faster, but even a 6s iPhone is fast enough for most tasks today

I was hoping to see a new feature I could use in my daily life with these new iPhones. Instead it was just about taking good features I already enjoy and incrementally improving them. That's usually what happens in the "S" year upgrade, so it surprised and disappointed me.

I think last year's introduction of the XS Max was a much bigger hardware deal.

I don't think the naming/numbering of the phones matches a tick/tock schedule anymore. It is more tick/tock/tock....

iPhone 6 Plus (tick) / iPhone 6s Plus (tock) / iPhone 7 Plus (tock)

iPhone X (tick) / iPhone XS Max (tock) / iPhone 11 Pro Max (tock)

I guess I thought that this would be the year for a big hardware upgrade.


What would have made you happy I wonder.
 
So the sweet spot would be an iPhone Xs (wide + tele) at the price of an iPhone 11

Looks like my iPhone 7 is going on at least another year – certainly not paying $1700AU for wireless charging and telephoto, at the same 64 GB storage as I already have.

I’d jump on a used/refurbed Xs except the night vision thing is huge for me.

I’m using a 7 and have been dropping calls so it might be time to leap.
 
My 7 plus is acting dodgy ... it might be time to upgrade!

Naw - keep it for another 2 years with a $65.00 a month cell plan. :)

How can people still have an iPhone 7 when the cell service providers are giving higher models away.

Super-cycle doesn't exist - except it really does.

Apple will beat guidance again and AAPL stock headed to moon!
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I’d jump on a used/refurbed Xs except the night vision thing is huge for me.

I’m using a 7 and have been dropping calls so it might be time to leap.

For sure you should upgrade! Life is too short. It's worth it just for the better photo's.
 
My god that is one ugly phone.
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Yeah, that'd be enough for me also.

This is Jony Ive's design. Don't forget Apple plan years ahead. This design would have been finalised at least 18 months ago.

Though with the ugly designs coming out of Apple of late (Mac Pro) it shows the rumours of Jony not turning up to design meetings and not giving final say on certain design decisions now seems true lol.

It's sad and infuriating to see Apple heading down the same self destruct route it did in the 80's when they sacked Steve Jobs. Bloated/fragmented product line, crap design, ridiculous prices, boardroom full of bean counters etc. Who the hell appoints a chief operating officer to oversee design!? Really!? I really feel like slapping Tim Cook round the face.

This is what happens when you run the company for the benefit of shareholders who only care about profit. Steve Jobs didn’t allow Apple to pay dividends to shareholders he focussed his efforts on making the best product he could and he knew if it was worth it customers would buy it and keep coming back. Apples current products are worth half of what they’re currently priced at.
 
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Naw - keep it for another 2 years with a $65.00 a month cell plan. :)

How can people still have an iPhone 7 when the cell service providers are giving higher models away.

That used to be the case, and obviously it's location-dependent, but where I am, you can get unlimited calls, texts and more data than you can throw a stick at for ~$20/month. Makes more sense to buy outright than to get the iPhone for "free" on a $150 a month plan (yes, that's what it costs for the top models).
 
That used to be the case, and obviously it's location-dependent, but where I am, you can get unlimited calls, texts and more data than you can throw a stick at for ~$20/month. Makes more sense to buy outright than to get the iPhone for "free" on a $150 a month plan (yes, that's what it costs for the top models).

OK - I guess that is a bit different than the $65.00 minimum usable cell plan with data.

The guys with the $20 per month are the one's that can't receive pictures in text messages maybe.

Think of the time we all spend on these iPhones - it's like we are all "pro" haha.

We spend hours on the iPhone - therefore it merits having a more recent model - that's my argument.

Oh - and life is too short to save $300 on something you spend so much time handling.

Did I convince you?
 
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Don't know why but this came to my mind...
 
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