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I know it's about services now but this is Apple, how can they let their designs get this bad? Looks like a$$ compared to new galaxy phones
 
Who asked for 3 sensors and lenses?! How about using that budget for 1 good sensor and lens?
who wants 3 suzuki swift in their driveway when they can have 1 mercedes?!

In my case apple loose money with expensive phones. Instead of spending 700$ on a flagship phone every 2 years I now spend 1000 every 4 years.
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Hey man... did you read their invite... by “innovation” only... did you see anything innovating?
My wallet is a very good indicator of innovation... and my wallet stays closed for yet another year.

I shaved my balls for this! happy i fell asleep before the show... I would have been so disappointed.

Physics is a bit of a problem. To get the same amount of light sensitivity with a single “good” sensor would require a sensor with pixels approximately 3x as big. You can achieve that with a much bigger sensor, or reduce the megapixels. If you increase the sensor size, you need to increase the distance between the lens and the sensor, and increase the size of the sensor. This requires a thicker phone or much bigger camera bump.

Using multiple smaller sensors and computationally combining the results is actually a very clever method of achieving what otherwise would require a much bigger device.
 
I'm pre-ordering the 256 GB 11 Pro Max. Coming from a three year old 64 GB SE on its second battery, this will be a major upgrade for me. I'll be going to Hawaii on vacation on the 30th so I hope to have this phone in time to test the camera.
 
The iPhone 11 still has no OLED display in late 2019, and charges $700 for it. And a large notch in all models, even in the $1,000 ones. Samsung is selling $200 phones (and lower) with gorgeous AMOLED displays and small notches.

Yeah, because OLED automatically means better...

The display you will find in a $200 Galaxy device is way lower quality than an iPhone's LCD, the only advantage being OLED blacks.
 
The promised innovation? What are you talking about? What nonsense is this?

You and the rest of the Boomers whining across the web currently need to decide between "FORCED OBSOLESCENCE!!!!!111" and "wow just wow no innovation Apple is dead" - gets quite tiring every single year for about 12 years now.

No one promised you a single thing. Apple does not speak about future products, ever, at all, period. Any imaginary fairytales you and all the other whiners told yourselves leading up to the event today are just that - trying to hold Apple to your ridiculous standards of reinventing the wheel every 12 months is so laughable it's barely worth addressing...apart from the fact that you people essentially destroy the internet and all discourse for about 2-3 weeks every single year following the iPhone launch. Please, for the love of all that is holy, stop. And cease to comment on things you have net negative knowledge of.

Well, I suppose competition is catching up fast. And Apple delivers less and less.

2007: iPhone introduction.
2008: iPhone 3G brought 3G connectivity, a redesign, and double the storage.
2009: iPhone 3GS brought a better camera, twice the processing speed, double the storage, better battery life, better connectivity.
2010: iPhone 4 brought a Retina Display, a front-facing camera, a better rear camera, a faster processor, and a new design.
2011: iPhone 4S brought an improved processor (dual-core) and more memory, improved antenna, better camera, better connectivity (Bluetooth 4.0), more storage, and introduced Siri.
2012: iPhone 5 brought a redesign (larger but lighter), taller screen, LTE support, dual-band Wi-Fi, better front-facing camera, faster processor, and Lightning.
2013: iPhone 5s brought Touch ID, an improved 64-bit processor, better camera, better connectivity, better battery life. The iPhone 5c (similar to iPhone 5 but on a plastic case) was introduced.
2014: iPhone 6 and 6 Plus are two brand new models, with larger screens, slightly better processor, and more storage.
2015: iPhone 6s and 6s Plus brought 3D Touch, improved Touch ID, a faster processor, more RAM, better camera (with 4K video).
2016: iPhone 7 and 7s brought a much improved quad-core processor, water resistance, better brightness and color support on the screen, faster LTE speeds, better cameras, slightly better battery life, no headphone jack.
2017: iPhone X brought a brand-new design and a higher price, but also a new OLED display with a different aspect ratio and a higher resolution, smaller bezels, Face ID, faster processor, better battery life, wireless charging, more storage. The iPhone 8 and 8s also brought an improved processor, wireless charging, and more storage.
2018: iPhone XS brought a faster processor, slightly better camera, support for Gigabit LTE, better face ID, better water resistance. The iPhone XS Max was introduced with a larger screen, and the iPhone XR was the replacement for the iPhone 8, with a redesign, a different aspect ratio, and more features.
2019: iPhone 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max brought (in relation to XS and XS Max) much improved battery life, improved processor, more brightness in the screen, and a better camera. The iPhone 11 (in relation to XR) brought an improved processor, battery life and camera.

Looking at improvements every year, they felt less and less incremental. Some years have been considered lackluster in the past, such as the introduction of iPhone 7 and last year's iPhone XS (but at least new models were introduced). This year, though, seems to be the weakest of all. It looked like Apple was introducing a new camera, instead of a phone.

No OLED screen in the cheaper model (even though $200 phones now have it). No 5G connectivity (how is a $1,000 phone expected to last for years without it?). No USB-C support (although every cheap phone has one now). No 120 Hz screen. Very disappointing.
 
Incredible how cheap iphones have become .. I used to change phone every year, then two years and now my iphone will go on 4 years.
The lack of innovation and higher phone prices actually makes my phone budget look good.
The promised innovation did not happen.

Lets say i buy a 700$ phone every second year that is 1400$ in 4 years.. now i buy a 1000$ phone every 4 years.. hokus pokus apple just lost 400$

Yes, but I would argue that you lost more by not capturing that great UFO photo or family photo with the highest resolution camera - the one you always have with you on your iPhone. Also you might get new and better ideas to invent something by having the latest tech. iPhones are like a pair of shoes - it's nice to have new shoes often even if the old one's still work.
 
Forget the iPhone 11s...definitely skipping this year. I’ve upgraded to the best since the iPhone 6. Apple definitely dropped the ball this year. Why even call it 11 when it’s pretty much an iPhone XS Max “S”. Prediction: iPhone 11 Pro sales will be significantly less than previous years. iPhone 11 will go up quite a bit.
 
Forget the iPhone 11s...definitely skipping this year. I’ve upgraded to the best since the iPhone 6. Apple definitely dropped the ball this year. Why even call it 11 when it’s pretty much an iPhone XS Max “S”. Prediction: iPhone 11 Pro sales will be significantly less than previous years. iPhone 11 will go up quite a bit.


My prediction is that a super-cycle happens this year and next year too!

Pent up demand is going to hit critical mass - those iPhone 7's are really surprising to me - I see lots of them.

Objectively, Consumer confidence is high. Walmart and Home Depot are doing well.

Interest Rates are low and going lower - this helps business and it helps consumer confidence.

People are going to make the connection that they are spending money on their cellular service plan already, and spending way too many hours on their iPhones, and they will realize that the upgrade is worth paying for. If they need to make cuts in spending, they can do that on something else - but not for their beloved iPhones that they use so much every single day.

The world before iPhone is hard to remember. It was only 12 years ago - but iPhone has changed the world a lot.

Apple won't be telling you the numbers for iPhone 11 Pro etc. But guess what? That super cycle will be measured in terms of revenue. Apple has iPhones from $450 for the iPhone 8 all the way up to iPhone 11. Maybe a lot of people will be upgrading, but not to the very latest. I guess they are not "Pro".
 
Where do you live? None of the carriers have 3 year contracts anymore. They have 3 year payment plans, but contracts are long gone.

Canada. But I am beyond "shopping around" for cellular service plans - they are confusing, and those contracts probably should be long gone. Maybe they are, but I doubt it, because that's how to sell a car or sell something to a person who has poor sense of financial management - you don't tell them the price of the car - you sell them on $299 per month for the car and they don't notice that they are paying more than retail price.
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Does anyone know what model modems are in the Pro?

It's not US Robotics 14.4 is it? :)
 
Hey guys, I have a sneak peak of the 2025 iPhones! Naming to be determined, but I would gamble to call it iPhone SLR XX Max Pro S Turbocharge. This IS the greatest innovation you’ve ever seen to come to iPhone. Tim Cook really pulled the strings on this technological genius. It will only cost you $8000! Check it out...

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Why do you need it? I watched about 80% of this keynote steaming to my XR whilst walking the dog, ALL over 3G with the signal at 1 or 2 bars!!
What is 5G going to do for your phone? Apart from possibly cause you harm.

Hopefully more bandwidth to support more users in a given area. If you have ever been in a crowded place where there are lots of people, you will know what I am talking about. Sports stadiums and amusement parks being the worst!
 
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Hey guys, I have a sneak peak of the 2025 iPhones! Naming to be determined, but I would gamble to call it iPhone SLR XX Max Pro S Turbocharge. This IS the greatest innovation you’ve ever seen to come to iPhone. Tim Cook really pulled the strings on this technological genius. It will only cost you $8000! Check it out...

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I don’t even understand this. Is it meant to be funny?
 
No, pretty sure the joke came pre-unfunnied.

No, you have to have an IQ of at least 120 to get them...I know it’s quite hard to connect the dots but jokes come out quite funnier when you’re capable of doing so ;)

“Unfunnied” isn’t a word btw. Just wanted to help you out. ***hugs***
 
No, you have to have an IQ of at least 120 to get them...I know it’s quite hard to connect the dots but jokes come out quite funnier when you’re capable of doing so ;)

“Unfunnied” isn’t a word btw. Just wanted to help you out. ***hugs***

Your inappropriate personal insults might have hurt my feelings but for my three advanced degrees.
 
This is what I think of when I see that 3-eyed monstrosity that is the front face of the new iPhone Pro:

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Ok, that was a bit disturbing, I'll admit. How about this as a new representation of the new iPhone Pro camera system:

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Lol I’m sorry but your three advanced degrees from your local for profit university is an insult in itself :)
This is going nowhere. Google me and then let’s return to the topic.

Cameras are a great thing for apple to focus on because cameras are a key differentiator between phones.
 
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