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Apple announces iPod nano
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AidenShaw said:
Yet another reason not to live in Kali-fore-ne-ah. How is it possible to safely and prudently ride in the space between two vehicles in adjacent lanes?
I've got nothing against motorcycles, or motorcylists. I do however have a problem with people who drive in a manner that is unsafe, for either myself or them. This goes for both motorcycles and cars/trucks, you just happen to see a lot of motorcycles doing a lot of unsafe things.
And before anyone says why should I care if something you do is unsafe for you, yadda yadda... first, it's difficult to do anything on the road that is only unsafe for the person doing it, and two the actions of all drivers everywhere effect my insurance rates, which are to high as it is.
nsjoker said:
My thoughts exactly!
Besides it was the only ipod that matched the powermac/book and mini lines of computers in terms of design. The nano, although a great and classic design, seems alien next to a powerbook. I might just go and get a silver mini tomorow. Do you think i can still order one from the apple store with laser engraving??
Maybe you should *pay attention* while you're driving, instead of talk on your cell phone, eat your bigmac, etc., and all those crazy motorcyclists won't be such an enormous hazard! "I didn't see him" translates into "I wasn't paying adequate attention" when it comes to traffic accidents.mrgreen4242 said:
Keep in mind that two cars take up four to six motorcycle lanes, depending on the car. There are seven motorcycle lanes (including center stripe) in two car lanes.mrgreen4242 said:
Much of what you see is based on perspective.mrgreen4242 said:
What may seem unsafe to you, is not. Motorcycles handle better then cars, can stop faster then cars, can accelerate out of danger better then cars, and can fit through spaces that cars cannot.
Driving down the road at 160 KM/h on my motorcycle is equivelant to 100 Km/h in a decent car.
Going under the pretense that they would skip a level, they would skip pico and go to femto.i-clipper said:
Johnny Rico said:
FFS. Paying attention has nothing to do with vehicles being in places they either aren't expected or just shouldn't be. If there was a little lane in beween each set of regular lanes for motorcycles, then sure, I'd be all for them driving in it. But there's not. Legal (depending where you are) or not, you just don't expect to have a third vehicle coming up between you and another car when you are in adjacent lanes. But, there isn't; there's just the two lanes, so the fact that a motorcycle CAN fit has little to do with it. It's just like when a single lane widens so larger vehicles can safely make a right turn, but people try to use it as a seperate right turn LANE. There is no lane there, it's just extra space for safety.
I'll agree with you that people do way to many other things while they should be driving, motorcycle or automobile, but no matter how you look at it adjusting your iPod while driving a motorcycle is one of those things. Cars have dashboards that let you keep your eyes on the road while adjusting the stereo, etc. They are designed to keep that task as non-distracting as possible.
Sigh, I have once again failed at my resolution not to argue with people on the internet, as it is entirely pointless...
12 grams, according to my postal scale. That puts the Nano Plus at 34 grams with battery.Hattig said:
Agreed - but the 1 GB Nano Plus is really somewhere between shuffle and the Ipod Nano in features. And who really believes the "%d songs" anyway, don't you look at the GB?Hattig said:
BTW, the Nano Plus does WMA VBR format files, and I rip for my MuVo N200 (one generation before the Nano) at an average of 75-95 Kbps, and it sounds *much* better than 128 or even 160 Kbps MP3. Ripping your CDs to MP3 for a WMA player would be silly....
Note that the battery life of the Nano Plus is effectively infinite - keep a few spare AAA NiMH batteries charged and in your briefcase, and you can play for days and days....Hattig said:
Just in case you want music on your jungle trek, far away from the mains.
Hattig said:I've got my confirmation of shipping now. 4GB Black Nano. 1 - 2 days apparently, so because of the weekend I'll probably get it on Monday.
Anyway, in comparison to the Creative Zen Nano Plus:
http://www.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=213&subcategory=214&product=12720&nav=2
iPod Nano:
Volume: 24.8cm^3
Weight: 42g
Battery Life: 14 hours with 128kbps AAC
Song Capacity: 1000+ songs at 128kbps (4GB)
S/N: ?
Display: High Resolution Colour LCD
Styling: General consensus is 'unf'
Selling Points: iTMS, World Clock, Calendar, Alarms, Games, Photos
Price: 2GB £139 / 4GB £179
Creative Nano Plus:
Volume: 28.5cm^3
Weight: 22g + AAA battery (how much does an AAA battery weigh?)
Battery Life: 18 hours with 64kbps WMA
Song Capacity: 500+ songs at 64kbps WMA (1GB)
S/N: 90dB
Display: Low resolution monochrome LCD
Styling: Colours are nice. Chunky looking around the LCD though.
Selling Points: FM Radio, Record from Line In
Price: 256MB £50 / 512MB £65 / 1GB £82 (Dabs.com)
The use of 64kbps WMA files is rather disingenous of Creative in my opinion. Most people have 128kbps files, and they probably rip MP3s at even more. Also higher bitrate files tend to use more battery up, so the 18 hour battery life is rather cheeky. I might rip 20 hours of music at 64kbps VBR AAC and see how long my nano lasts, and how many songs I can get on it.
Sorry, but...why do you waste time comparing to Creative or anyone else?
They are uglier (DAMN uglier), less sturdy, bigger, with lower capacity and with a design/UI that will NEVER ever get close to an iPod. 64Kb WMA? What the ****?
To be honest, use your time for praising the Nano and busting the competition, not to show what cannot be shown; there is no comparison, the war is over...the iPod line is still light-years ahead of any other offer...period.
So, I saw the nano, and my jaw dropped, and I knew it would sell faster than fast.
But the more I look... I don't know, say someone's deciding between the nano and a zen micro or other ipod mini knockoff. You're looking at paying 70 bucks more, not getting as much storage, no extras. I know it's an emotional decision, but often with these, it's the emotion of the teen, the wallet of the parents. And how do you justify buying one when HD offers such clearly better value? Sure flash prices will drop, but then so will hard drive prices, too.
I don't know. Plus, it's really disturbing to look at amazon's most sold list, the nano is not that popular at all. Is everybody buying from apple, has it not gathered steam, or... is this not a hit? such a gamble for apple, to drop the mini, and really not offer anything else that competes too directly with it.
But the more I look... I don't know, say someone's deciding between the nano and a zen micro or other ipod mini knockoff. You're looking at paying 70 bucks more, not getting as much storage, no extras. I know it's an emotional decision, but often with these, it's the emotion of the teen, the wallet of the parents. And how do you justify buying one when HD offers such clearly better value? Sure flash prices will drop, but then so will hard drive prices, too.
I don't know. Plus, it's really disturbing to look at amazon's most sold list, the nano is not that popular at all. Is everybody buying from apple, has it not gathered steam, or... is this not a hit? such a gamble for apple, to drop the mini, and really not offer anything else that competes too directly with it.
dontmatter said:
Calm down, please...Apple takes gambles all the time, and usually they are right because nobody foresaw them...there is NO reason for Minis sandwiched between the Shuffles, the Nanos and the normal iPods...it would be a stupid stretch of industrial production, am I the only one seeing that? What would a Mini with color screen be?? Just another iPod Photo with less capacity! Get a grip, people! If you care about storage, buy the 20Gb one! If you want anything else, go for the Nano! Simple as that.
And it's less than 24 hours after the Nano launch...surely it will take a while for them to climb up to the top spots...give it just a few days and you'll see.
p.s.: correction: the Nano is ALREADY the 4th MOST SOLD electronics device at Amazon...check it out at
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...nics/all/ref=pd_dp_ts_e_1/102-3111369-5782544
1st - iPod 20Gb
2nd - XBox
3rd - XTreme CD/DVD case
4th - iPod Nano Black
5th - iPod Mini Silver
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Someone please stop me from buying this thing.
It's just drop dead gorgeous.
Bah - I don't need it!
It's just drop dead gorgeous.
Bah - I don't need it!
I got one
Ok, so I went to the Apple Store here in Milwaukee at lunch, and guess what, they had a whole bunch of them. The 4GB Black was selling the most, followed by the 2GB Black, 4GB White, and then the 2GB White.
Part of me was hoping that they wouldn't have them in stock so that I wouldn't have to make the decision to buy one or not. Well, to make a long story short, after standing there for 5 minutes trying to justify buying one (I already have a 3G 20GB iPod) I broke down and got the 4GB Black nano.
It is simply beautiful. Awesome. Something you wouldn't believe if you saw it in the movies. This is one of those products that will change the way we look at all other devices on the markey, just like the original iPod did. I can say it was well worth the $230 bucks (I got an education discount for being a teacher). Everyone should get one. They are going to sell quick.
Ok, so I went to the Apple Store here in Milwaukee at lunch, and guess what, they had a whole bunch of them. The 4GB Black was selling the most, followed by the 2GB Black, 4GB White, and then the 2GB White.
Part of me was hoping that they wouldn't have them in stock so that I wouldn't have to make the decision to buy one or not. Well, to make a long story short, after standing there for 5 minutes trying to justify buying one (I already have a 3G 20GB iPod) I broke down and got the 4GB Black nano.
It is simply beautiful. Awesome. Something you wouldn't believe if you saw it in the movies. This is one of those products that will change the way we look at all other devices on the markey, just like the original iPod did. I can say it was well worth the $230 bucks (I got an education discount for being a teacher). Everyone should get one. They are going to sell quick.
I'm not sure if I want to be talked into buying or talked into not buying one.
I have a 3rd gen 20gb which I never use except as storage for most of my music collection, a 2nd gen mini which I use almost everywhere, and a shuffle exclusively for running (I don't want my mini to be rained on)... so I have absolutely no 'need' for one of these at all.
But damn I want one.
I love my mini, so how about I convince myself that buying a nano is essential in order to prolong the life of my mini?
I have a 3rd gen 20gb which I never use except as storage for most of my music collection, a 2nd gen mini which I use almost everywhere, and a shuffle exclusively for running (I don't want my mini to be rained on)... so I have absolutely no 'need' for one of these at all.
But damn I want one.
I love my mini, so how about I convince myself that buying a nano is essential in order to prolong the life of my mini?
VanMac said:
I'm looking for that ipod atto, not to be pedantic, but so i could call it the 'attopod'
iGary said:Someone please stop me from buying this thing.
It's just drop dead gorgeous.
Bah - I don't need it!
Your needs are not important. It is the desires of our hearts that take precedence.
am i the only one who hates this?
I lost so much faith in Apple with the iPod U2 release, and now this? I honestly think it's rather ugly. It's elongated, so why did they not make the screen longer so it would be easier to scroll? Instead, it looks pretty awkwardly shaped. Same old scroll wheel, whoopty doo. What if someone does not want to wear it as a lanyard? You have to keep it in your pocket upside down.
The best selling minis are gone. Mass audiences loved the mini. Teenagers, college kids, mothers, whoever. The colors appealed to many, and the silver and golds appealed to the rest! I've got a silver.
I'm in part bitter too because now the resale value of my mini is gone. Whatever, it's only 8 months old and has ALREADY stopped working correctly so I hardly expected to get much from it anyway.
Unfortunatly, it looks like apple is really succeeding well in the industry... great for them but not for us mac users. I feel a bit like less of an individual with their products. I also fear that within the next few years we will some how... some way... be dealing with the same spyware and viruses that PCs are plagued with.
I lost so much faith in Apple with the iPod U2 release, and now this? I honestly think it's rather ugly. It's elongated, so why did they not make the screen longer so it would be easier to scroll? Instead, it looks pretty awkwardly shaped. Same old scroll wheel, whoopty doo. What if someone does not want to wear it as a lanyard? You have to keep it in your pocket upside down.
The best selling minis are gone. Mass audiences loved the mini. Teenagers, college kids, mothers, whoever. The colors appealed to many, and the silver and golds appealed to the rest! I've got a silver.
I'm in part bitter too because now the resale value of my mini is gone. Whatever, it's only 8 months old and has ALREADY stopped working correctly so I hardly expected to get much from it anyway.
Unfortunatly, it looks like apple is really succeeding well in the industry... great for them but not for us mac users. I feel a bit like less of an individual with their products. I also fear that within the next few years we will some how... some way... be dealing with the same spyware and viruses that PCs are plagued with.
lorenzo said:I lost so much faith in Apple with the iPod U2 release, and now this? I honestly think it's rather ugly. It's elongated, so why did they not make the screen longer so it would be easier to scroll? Instead, it looks pretty awkwardly shaped. Same old scroll wheel, whoopty doo. What if someone does not want to wear it as a lanyard? You have to keep it in your pocket upside down.
The best selling minis are gone. Mass audiences loved the mini. Teenagers, college kids, mothers, whoever. The colors appealed to many, and the silver and golds appealed to the rest! I've got a silver.
I'm in part bitter too because now the resale value of my mini is gone. Whatever, it's only 8 months old and has ALREADY stopped working correctly so I hardly expected to get much from it anyway.
Unfortunatly, it looks like apple is really succeeding well in the industry... great for them but not for us mac users. I feel a bit like less of an individual with their products. I also fear that within the next few years we will some how... some way... be dealing with the same spyware and viruses that PCs are plagued with.
so buy something other than an iPod and chill.
P.S. your mini is still under warrenty so get it fixed and sell it. the resale value will still be high since many prefer the mini. then you can buy something other than an iPod since you've lost your "faith" and all.
or you could do what you really want and take the money from the mini and buy a new nano....na na na nana!
Nano Nano (this name is growing on me)
ordered the 4gb black minutes after it went on sale the apple oz online store... 50 minutes into the keynote that was... hehe.. nearly at 4am...
cant wait... says it will ship on or before 13/9...
i reckon apple's taken a step fwd.. who cares about fm or firewire... by the way im guessing it will support the old firewire cable as it has a std dock connector..
----as for the mini.. im pinning my hopes for a late 2006 resurrection along with black andonized mactel powerbooks... right now taking the mini off was the right thing to do... atleast untill microdrive capacities hit 10-20 gb mark... even if the mini is not back.. andonized aluminium bodied ipod will surely be back(with a lot more nifty features than the (not so)current mini).. sooner or later..
a few more percent for apple...
arghh.. but no ITMS AU yet?? how long would we have to wait..
ordered the 4gb black minutes after it went on sale the apple oz online store... 50 minutes into the keynote that was... hehe.. nearly at 4am...
cant wait... says it will ship on or before 13/9...
i reckon apple's taken a step fwd.. who cares about fm or firewire... by the way im guessing it will support the old firewire cable as it has a std dock connector..
----as for the mini.. im pinning my hopes for a late 2006 resurrection along with black andonized mactel powerbooks... right now taking the mini off was the right thing to do... atleast untill microdrive capacities hit 10-20 gb mark... even if the mini is not back.. andonized aluminium bodied ipod will surely be back(with a lot more nifty features than the (not so)current mini).. sooner or later..
a few more percent for apple...
arghh.. but no ITMS AU yet?? how long would we have to wait..
Horray!!
If you get the Dock you can tranfer via firewire or Usb. I'm so getting the black one!
http://www.apple.com/ipodnano/accessories.html
If you get the Dock you can tranfer via firewire or Usb. I'm so getting the black one!
http://www.apple.com/ipodnano/accessories.html
BRLawyer said:
No, I agree, there really is no room for a mini in this, it's just that when compared to the mini, the mini could compare favorably in many people's minds. And, given that the mini has been the player to beat, other companies players look and feel a lot like it-so I'm just saying a good portion of the population might end up buying them. Still, I'm WAY more tempted by the nano than I ever was by the mini, I think it's awesome. I just don't think it's a sure bet, they could lose a good number of customers who planned on a mini, but didn't budget for more or want less capacity.
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mrgreen4242 said:
i agree on this, but not on the passing between the lanes in a traffic jam.
If I am stuck in traffic, one thing that drives me insane is people on scooters that take as much space as a car, making the jam that much worse. go ahead already since you 'can' (this of course doesn't apply to the boatlike gold wings and similar)