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Wow.. I was actually looking at the iMac this morning and thinking how cheap it would be to buy one, maybe for my parents or something. But holy crap (I'm Aussie) they are so expensive now! Wtf! Two grand not justified. What the hell is going on with Apple's pricing as of late?
 
Gahh 6895 sek or 756 USD for a mac mini.

That means you have to pay about 190 USD* just for MAC OSX.
No I will rather buy a PC and use Windows 7, or osx86

A similar PC (better processor. more hard drive space) cost $566 ink VAT

In my example I used a fairly good looking case Image here

You might be able to fin/build a similar PC for $50-100 less than this.
 
Apple really needs to improve more on the Time Capsule and AirPort. I think most of us would love to see some basic features like QOS added. Obviously this isn't something that would require a completely new product (just a firmware update).

This Time Capsule update doesn't really sparkle for me. It is a very minor update at best IMO.
 
the all-in-one is what you are paying for. Its unfair to compare prices with a box that sits under your desk, as that will be cheaper to make.

Having said that, I do think apple risk losing customers with their reliance on the all in one imac as their main desktop solution - the mini is a lovely computer but I don't see apple taking it seriously.

The pro is so expensive, there is plenty of room for a basic box under the desk with OSX on it without cannibalising pro sales. The economy is right for something like that too.
Compare it to Dell's all-in-one then:
http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/desktop-xps-a2420?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
Still beats the iMac pretty badly.
 
Nice, but the iMac tops out at a single 4850. It was a pipe dream but a 2gb 4870x2 would have got me buying a new iMac today. Guess it's a homebuilt PC for me :eek:

Mac Mini doesn't sound bad. I'd be tempted to get one of them as a tiny scale file and iTunes server for my little studio. As well as having another machine capable of running Team Fortress 2 under bootcamp for LAN parties :).
 
It's a joke hey - Just shopping online now but it's not gonna be at the Apple Store :D

1,199.00 USD = 1,861.55 AUD

Add in export costs (and does Australia have taxes added in like Europe?), and you're pretty close. It may be a bit of extra markup, but it's not that horribly absurd.

jW
 
Wow.. I was actually looking at the iMac this morning and thinking how cheap it would be to buy one, maybe for my parents or something. But holy crap (I'm Aussie) they are so expensive now! Wtf! Two grand not justified. What the hell is going on with Apple's pricing as of late?

Surely your parents don't need a new one, why not get a refurbished old one?
 
UK prices are a joke

I agree that UK prices do reflect the exchange rate + VAT, but how does Apple actually expect to sell that many of the new computers at that level of cost, especially given the underwhelming nature of the new specs?

People are already holding off buying expensive goods because they're worried about their jobs and their mortgages, but people are also waiting for deflation to take hold - which will probably be later this year.

If Apple had priced the new iMacs and Mac Minis at a lower price point than the previous models they'd have flown off the shelves. At this price they certainly won't. People will wait, either for the next upgrade, or will hope that retailers will cut prices in a desperate attempt to drive sales and keep their cash flow going.

I was holding out for this upgrade before buying an iMac. Now I wish I'd bought one a month ago. The hackintosh starts to look like a seriously tempting alternative...
 
and to all the "loyal" Mac people....loyal would have been to buy before and not wait.

loyal customers have purchased theirs already and are happy.
 
UK Prices are an absolute joke!

Oddly enough Macbook in US costs exactly the same as Macbook in UK

1300usd ~ 929gbp with the current exchange rate; but I guess it's only a coincidence caused bye the price of usd skyrocketing over last few weeks;

apple has a f***** up policy on pricing; so if usd goes up, prices in uk get totally ridiculous...

so; macbook it is and screw all the rest ;-)

macbook + 24" dell screen + ps3
 
It's interesting the 2 entry level iMac also use the 9400M. I guess it's faster than the GPU on previous entry level iMacs? Usually integrated graphics are way slow because they're using the slow main RAM, but the NVidia Chipset and faster RAM seem to help a lot. A direct comparison would indeed be nice, we'll probably see some benchmarks pretty soon.
No real performance gains there as nvidia doesn't utilize sideport like latest integrated amd/ati chpiset 790gx does.

I like how the Mac Mini Page now highlights the power savings. People don't realize Standard PCs with Desktop CPUs and dedicated graphics cards user hundreds of Watts when idling which isn't only expensive in the long run, but generates heat and fan noise, too.

My (no obsolete as of today) Mac Mini uses 11-13 Watt when idling. If you let it turn off the hard drive and activate display sleep (turns off most of the graphics chip) in the power saving prefs, you can get there.
Not true. Phenom II has the ability to underclock from 3Ghz to 800Mhz when less juice is needed, i7 knows how to shut down it's cores, DDR3 uses less voltage than DDR2 and hybridcrossifre can disable main graph card automatically and switch to integrated while idling which in turn know how to lovwer it's voltages.

My Eee uses less than your Mac Mini when it idles and it's a standard pc.
 
Wait wait wait, I get get teh following refurbished model for $1,400:
iMac 24-inch 2.8GHz Intel Core 2 Duo

24-inch glossy widescreen display
2GB memory
320GB hard drive
8x Superdrive (DVD±R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW)
ATI Radeon HD 2600 PRO with 256MB memoryy
Built-in iSight camera

Or I can buy the "upgraded" model for $1,500:


24-inch : 2.66GHz
2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
4GB memory
640GB hard drive1
8x double-layer SuperDrive
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics
Built-in iSight camera

Correct me if I'm wrong but aside from the ram and HDD upgrade isn't that pretty mucha downgrade in graphics card and processor and graphics card?
 
The worst part is you can't just get the cheap Mac Mini and upgrade the RAM yourself, since the memory on the graphic cards are not the same on the two version. Cheap one having 128MB, pricier one 256MB. So basically you are "forced" to get the more expensive Mini if you want the best graphics performance.
 
I'm getting the feeling these prices are not correct. I will not be surprised if the prices drop significantly within the next week.
 
Surely your parents don't need a new one, why not get a refurbished old one?

That's really beside the point. This is a ridiculous mark up of what the computer is actually worth. It can't be justified by simply saying "oh, buy a refurb" or "you get OS X". It's so expensive!

And as for the people comparing exchange rates - it's pretty relative in terms of goods. Ie. A t-shirt that costs $20 in the U.S. would cost $20 here.. so therefore shouldn't the computers be the same?
 
Another iMac Update Needed

1. Apple needs to upgrade the display in the iMacs to LED
2. iMac needs more USB ports...why does the Mac Mini have more?!
 
What the f... 9400M in a 24" iMac?



What?








What?!!?


Jesus I can't believe my MBP has a better GPU than the brand new 24" iMac...

LOOOOOOOOOOOL!!
 
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