When the original SE was introduced, it was also an old iPhone.
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Apple Announces New iPhone SE With 4.7-Inch Display, A13 Chip, and Touch ID, Starts at $399
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When the original SE was introduced, it was also an old iPhone.
Just some foreshadowing on the next SE seeing now there's two SE's for a pattern, I'm thinking the current iPhone 11 will be the next SE probably in spring 2022 with an A15. Or will they drag this SE out for longer like the first one? I can't see them dragging this one out that long with a non edge-to-edge screen.
Boy am I glad I kept my SE from 2017 even with my XS. It's still at 93% battery health! If we have to move to masks in my country, which we may, I'm setting the SE up for Apple Pay.
I have to return the XS in October per my lease plan so I will probably move back to the SE full-time before then if masks happen.
That is still not proven story. Could be from Xr which is without night mode. Teardown will show us the truth.
Or if it is from 11, then could be software blocking of the feature to differentiate from higher tier 11.
It took a good number of back-and-forth replies before you even mentioned pairing or usability, and even when you did mention it, you still claimed that quality hasn't improved (which it has) before mentioning anything about pairing.
You get a bad experience if either end is a cheap POS. But you also get a bad experience with cheap POS wired headphones - its just that the bad experience is **** sound.
Any Apple or Beats bluetooth headphones, paired to any Mac or iOS device running Sierra/iOS10 or later. So any phone from the last 7 1/2 years, or Mac from the last decade.
If no then it would be the same kinds of limitations that were a little annoying and gave a temporary phone vibe with the 2016 SE like no OIS and the 1.2MP front camera.
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So sorry, fans of the original SE.
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So sorry, fans of the original SE.
Welcome to Apple-replaced-a-device-I-loved-with-a-non-equivalent Land.
I've been a resident since 2012.
We have counseling sessions every Tuesday and Thursday, aimed at developing coping mechanisms, facilitating the transition to new devices, assistance in re-engineering workflows, building new muscle-memory patterns, and environmental reconfiguration planning (also known as Dongle101).
€489 for the 64gb means it's about $532 which is about 33% more expensive.
I don't get it. Do they think Europeans are somehow prepared to pay that much more for a phone?
It makes it a very expensive purchase for a kid to take to school.
I've been hanging on as my son's phone was stolen a couple of months back but now if I buy it I feel like I'm encouraging Apple to keep gouging us on price.
I thought it would be €399 but €489 is really scandalous.
Exactly, the form factor is wrong and the customers have no interest to upgrade from the iPhone 8 due to an insignificant effort of 8S.
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The 8S won't be that bad if it at least upgrades to OLED and it's now the most underwhelming update.
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You do realize prices in the US are exclusive of tax and are inclusive in Europe including a relatively high VAT of likely about 25%. Government enforced warranties in the EU and other consumer protection policies also have costs. So if it’s 33% more, that seems about right. Particularly as companies often like to have a bit of a pad for currency fluctuations.
iPhone SE 256GB Product (RED) is the one, if I was in the market for an SE that’s the one I’d get.
Great job by Apple, this thing should sell pretty well
Would be good to see the battery capacity of this, with the 3D Touch layer gone, it may mean they fitted a larger battery than the iPhone 8 had. iPhone 8 had a puny 1821mAh battery, if this has something like 2500mAh-3000mAh it will be incredible.
Great job by Apple, this thing should sell pretty well
Would be good to see the battery capacity of this, with the 3D Touch layer gone, it may mean they fitted a larger battery than the iPhone 8 had. iPhone 8 had a puny 1821mAh battery, if this has something like 2500mAh-3000mAh it will be incredible.
No doubt, the 90% of people like about original SE form factor will not be buying iPhone 8S.
That price is for 304 Stainless, which is a cheap industrial grade. The iPhone X etc are described as "Surgical Stainless Steel" which would be 316L grade, and costs at least double what 304 costs, and much more than the price of aluminium.
Also, because stainless is heavier, you can make a lot less phones from a kg (or lb) of stainless than you can of aluminium. But the big difference is that stainless steel is much more difficult to machine and polish, so the processing costs are likely the biggest difference rather than the raw material.
But stainless steel can be polished to a mirror finish, and because it's much harder, it doesn't scratch and dent the way aluminium does. The aluminium bodies on phones are relatively soft and mark easily if dropped or stored with keys etc.
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No one claimed they’re new because Apple is embracing it. But compared to the 3.5mm analogue audio plug, Bluetooth audio is new technology.
Didn't most people buy the SE because they like having a smaller iPhone? I don't see this one catching on. My wife has no desire to upgrade her SE after asking me how big this one was.
Between a possible tiny reduction in bezels and a 5.4" iPhone 11s/12 size coming, I think we're going to wait and see what that's all about. Seems like that might only be a little bit bigger than the SE since the 5.8" iPhone is only slightly bigger than the new SE.
Between a possible tiny reduction in bezels and a 5.4" iPhone 11s/12 size coming, I think we're going to wait and see what that's all about. Seems like that might only be a little bit bigger than the SE since the 5.8" iPhone is only slightly bigger than the new SE.