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FW800. Cool.

You do realise that all MBPs, with one noteable* exception has had FW800 in ADDITION to FW400.


*The noteable exception was when they tried nixing the FW800 port but keeping the FW400. This is the reverse, but nonetheless, FW800 isn't a "cool" new feature. The "feature" is that they NIXED the FW400-port.
 
Whoops!

There will be a matte option. Based on the volume of these apple has moved in the past, and apple always making very carefully calculated moves, there will be a matte option. Just because Mr. Blurrycam happened to sneak a picture of a glossy screen doesn't mean there won't be. Relax. I know it looks like glass covers the bezel too. Stay calm and have faith. You're only here on macrumors at 10:45PM before a product launch because you believe in this company.

And who knows, there's probably a trackpad button in there somewhere, either integrated invisibly into the trackpad itself a la mighty mouse or just a bad camera shot.

Personally, I'll wait until tomorrow before selling whatever I own to buy the new one.

So much for that. :-(
 
Store Availability

Any idea when the new MBPs will hit the stores? Not that I am planning to buy one - thinking of checking them out..
 
Agreed. They're very nice little machines. I'd definitely be replacing my MBP with a new one if I weren't intending to go the route of a Mac Pro with a big display instead. 15" is a bit irritating for photo editing.

January.

And excuse my french, but **** me!
Ive never seen so many people complain!
You dont have to buy them.
I know you expected more, but you shouldnt have expected so much!
Im very happy with whats happened, and im getting my mbp 15" soon.
Mega graphics!
DDR3 1066MHz Ram! That is absoloutley insane!
And okay, im no graphic designer, so i cant comment on glossy displays, so just get one of the matte screen cover thingies...

Anybody else actually like them?!?!
 
New EDU "discount" prices = super sucky.

1,899 & 2,299.

Before tax.

Would it have killed Apple to keep the old price points?
 
Store was up briefly enough for me to get

RFB MBP 15/2.5/2X1GB/250-5400-USA for 1499. Gots me a real mouse button and no glossy display, and saved ~500-1000 depending on which price you look at
 
Wow! It says the new MacBook Pro's are shipping in 3-5 business days. What is up with that? I thought they were shipping tomorrow. Should I just wait and go to the Apple Store tomorrow?

Call one of your Apple stores today and see if they have any and let us know.
 
will these support 8gb ram? its something im looking forward to with snow leopard but would like to know now, if it will support it later.

would 8gb even be possible/usable to install right now? as in, would i get any use of 8gb ram (saying i could find some, somewhere) if i'm rendering HD footage in FCP, right now? (of course, i know i would get use of it later with 64 bit architecture, but how about with leopard)
 
I wonder how it feels to click and drag on one of those things. Seems like that's a lot of pressure to put on one finger; how can you glide along with the greatest of ease while keeping the trackpad depressed? Doesn't sound like good ergonomics, but maybe there is still a way to click-and-drag with the thumb holding down the "button".

someone mentioned that apple is going for form over function...Im starting to believe this. (and yes, I have been exclusively an apple only owner for over a decade.) But reality is reality, it seems they are missing the spot on some things when it comes to long term, hard field usage of the machine.

But as someone pointed out as well, they are more for the consumer and prosumer market.

They even said that glossy displays were loved by the consumers.
Well, what about pros...well they are consumers now...at least for apple.
Its more the pro hobbyist. ;)
(not that there is anything wrong with that, but there seems to be a gap them delivering a true pro machine)

Peace

dAlen
 
Any idea if they have a function of Glossy Display Reflection on/off in System pref.?:)
 
[Posted from my glossy MBP without a problem, amazing. Quit complaining about it people]

Glossy screens work for for email, web and watching DVDs. They are not good at all for work where color fidelity matters like where you care a lot about the exact shade of red you will use on a product or when you are adjusting color on a photograph.

You could post to macrumors on a black and white monitor.
 
Glossy?

Really all some third party needs to do is develop an anti-glare film for the new MB and MBP. Done deal. Stop complaining.
 
I'm really surprised at the amount of negativity over these updates. I think they look great and will be getting the new mbp to replace my very very old iBook G4. Surely for those of you that for whatever reason hate these new laptops should be delighted at the prospect of generous discounts on the old models in the refurb store? Afterall apart from the look of the things the difference in end-user experience is going to be barely noticeable between these new ones and the ones they would have sold you yesterday for a lot more than they will now.
 
look on the bright side...the older versions will soon get a nice price drop in the refurb store.:cool:
 
This all seems incredibly half-arsed to me! I was looking forward to seeing some great things today. I've recently bought an iMac and am truly in love with the thing compared to anything else I've used up until now. I was waiting for something similarly mind blowing to keep the enthusiasm alive...

But I just can't understand why, in the first instance on the displays front, from their 'current' range of 20", 23" and 30" screens, they've ONLY updated the 23" by making it look like 'an iMac without the iMac' and giving it the extra inch, without transitioning the rest of the range - it's just going to make the Apple Stores look a little untidy with all this mismatched hardware all sitting next to each other!

On the MacBook Pro - what the hell is updating the 15" and not the 17" all about? Even if a refresh is due on the 17", why not just wait until they were ready to introduce both to the marketplace together?

And keeping the white base model on the MacBooks? Wierd - not Apple-like at all - wonder how share prices are doing right now. It seems as though the positives are in the minority right now.

I'd have thought that maybe the 2.8Ghz MBP would be one of the standard configs with the 3.06Ghz as the BTO (do any other mfrs make a 3Ghz laptop) - or maybe that would run too hot? I'm going to reserve judgement about what using them will be like until I see it in the metal. But I'm used to my iMac's glossy screen now and I think it's great. I've also used a glossy laptop (not a Mac, but don't shoot me...) and I haven't had any issues with that either, so it's obviously horses for courses in that regard - if you don't like it, keep it to yourself. Enough whining...

Quite honestly, I saw a lot of people setting themselves up for a fall on this one and it's happened. The hype was too much (like the previous media event with the new iPods) - I think that Apple's marketing people are smoking something a little stronger than they should. Next time around, I'm certainly not going to be taken in - chances are I'll probably avoid the rumour forums for about a week beforehand and then be mildly surprised by what's unveiled.

My prediction is that the star of the event will probably be a G5-powered Mac Mini replacement (the Nano), with its largest selling point being its 40% smaller form factor - SJ calls it 'his baby'.

An *optional* bolt on module (in a co-ordinating, stacking design) will contain 2xUSB ports, 1xFirewire 400, 1xGb Ethernet and a mini DVI port, along with the choice of a combo or superdrive. These items are not located on the base Nano unit which, due to its small size can only manage a MagSafe slot.

Another *option* (which isn't included in the box but is needed to be fitted as the machine won't switch on without it) is an external freon fan system (again as a co-ordinating, stacking unit) which by now actually makes the form factor 250% that of the previous Mac Mini).

Jobs also hails his patented Micro-PCI architecture interface (tiny little thing, smaller than a headphone jack, located on the rear of the fan unit) a breakthrough in putting unrivalled graphics power into such a 'small' machine. What is rapidly skipped over is the extra footprint that the required (co-ordinated, stacking) unit containing 8 REGULAR SIZED PCI slots for connecting up to 4 double-headed graphics cards, giving the ability to drive 8 30" monitors at once. As an aside, SJ announced that the 30" ACD has been dropped.

The machine now weighs in at nearly 6 times the size of the original Mini.

"Now onto the subject of RAM expansion". As the Nano is too small to come with any RAM at all, expansion is by way of an *optional*... co-ordinating, stacking unit containing RAM slots to the tune of up to 16Gb.

"Now onto the subject of the hard drive options". The Nano has no hard drive. It's too small. Storage is added by way of... a co-ordinating, stacking module containing hard disk arrays containing 4x 250Gb, 500Gb or (BTO) 1Tb drives.

Keyboard and mouse are extra. As is a power lead. Overall, the Nano is 3'4" tall and weighs 250lb. Apple is proud to announce that the packaging is the most environmentally friendly in the world. There isn't any. Ships tomorrow, for the incredible price of just £99*.

The Mac Pro will be discountinued.

*Nano unit only

See if I'm right...
 
will these support 8gb ram? its something im looking forward to with snow leopard but would like to know now, if it will support it later.

would 8gb even be possible/usable to install right now? as in, would i get any use of 8gb ram (saying i could find some, somewhere) if i'm rendering HD footage in FCP, right now? (of course, i know i would get use of it later with 64 bit architecture, but how about with leopard)

Leopard has 64 bit architecture and will use 8GB and more RAM now (you can put 32GB in a Mac Pro) - if the MBP doesn't support more than 4GB now due to hardware limitations, Snow Leopard won't make any difference
 
the reality check is that some people need it for their business and workflow.
Some sooner than others. I have hung on to this powerbook 667mhz as long as I could...its literally on its last legs...or hanging by a thread.

The 17" was what I was waiting for...and it appears Nvidias old bad graphics card is still in there...what an update. lol

Peace

dAlen

Some people simply want an upgrade and are annoyed at the display not the graphics card, however there will be loads of the current MBPs around for a while, some nicely discounted. The new machines are not going to leave the old ones for dead and if they are upgrading from a machine of a few years old the step up will be huge.

Sadly if you are waiting for a new graphics card in the 17" the wait goes on, but as annoying as it is its just a computer, some people get a bit carried away, though I'm sure their words are little more than hot air ;)
 
will these support 8gb ram? its something im looking forward to with snow leopard but would like to know now, if it will support it later.

would 8gb even be possible/usable to install right now? as in, would i get any use of 8gb ram (saying i could find some, somewhere) if i'm rendering HD footage in FCP?


Specs say only 4GB. The best video card is the 9600. Calling that a pro laptop is false advertising. What a joke. 1400x900 low rez screen. No Matte option. No Blu-ray.
 
Time to be Shocked

come on boys - can you imagine Apple telling millions of MBP users that the matte option is no longer available? I would be SHOCKED if they did follow suit with current options - why would Apple expect current MBP users with the matte option to suddenly switch to glossy? The ONLY way they could do that is if they come up with some type of technology that ensured that glare would not be a problem, based on the picture however, I think we are looking at a MBP with the glossy option. I agree however, if they insist on going glossy, I'll run my current 2.4 MBP until the wheels fall off.

M

I guess Apple is telling millions of MBP users that the matte option is no longer available :(
 
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