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800 us backwards compatible, all you need is an adapter.

no, your hi-speed harddisk is connected to the FW800 bus, so where are you going to put the camera???

you do not seriously think that you can daisy chain that with full HD...

and how do you get footage from your camcorder to that new MB????

vSpacken
 
store is back up...

Not only does it appear the 17" has the old faulty Nvidia card in it, which is also slower than the new ones introduced today in the 15"...but it can only be upgraded to 2.6ghz and not 2.8.

What gives?

What was the update to the 17 that Phil and steve talked about?
Guess they had a laugh about that one didnt they.

It could have been nice...room for the quad processors intel has out now for laptops (look at Lenovo). And room for, yes, blu ray. (for pros) ;)

Peace

dAlen

p.s. The rumor about no 17" update is sad that it was accurate.
 
i have been waiting patiently for a while for this update, as i want a new 17" MBP.

the fact that the 17" was not updated (but with some small upgrades so they could say they at least did something) makes me furious. why the hell did they upgrade the 15" without the 17"?

this is crap. how much longer am i going to need to wait for the 17"? maybe i should just go get a 17" hackintosh for about half the price.

and glossy screens? have the apple engineers never been in a room with an open window while they have had their laptop open?

grr...

January.

And excuse my french, but **** me!
Ive never seen so many people complain!
You dont have to buy them.
I know you expected more, but you shouldnt have expected so much!
Im very happy with whats happened, and im getting my mbp 15" soon.
Mega graphics!
DDR3 1066MHz Ram! That is absoloutley insane!
And okay, im no graphic designer, so i cant comment on glossy displays, so just get one of the matte screen cover thingies...

Anybody else actually like them?!?!
 
Sorry but thats pathetic, you need a reality check. Don't buy it, last I heard Apple was not forcing everyone to buy a new machine.

First off, get over yourself...a little sarcasm on an online forum is hardly gonna cause the Earth's rotation to slow down! I doubt any Apple engineers have taken out an order of protection against me...

But secondly, yes, unfortunately as a professional photographer you are kinda forced into buying the next best thing that Apple puts out simply because every single piece of digital everything is designed first & foremost...FOR A MAC! So if I wanna keep using the newest software and work effectively, I hafta buy a Mac! And let's not forget that all of my clients also work almost exclusively on Mac systems, so being able to have everything Mac-centric helps a lot...

BT in NYC
 
For all the Prosumers b*tching; if you're not doing your work with at least a 24" IPS and Wacom you're missing the boat. So who gives a f*** if the display is glossy while you look at pr0n and sip lattes at Starbucks!

No Firewire on Macbook...Ethernet adapter to Firewire.

I am on my MBA at this moment and I adore the glossy screen and the chicklet keyboard. In fact, it doesn't occur to me that this is glossy until it's mentioned on the forums.

Some people who work in the graphic design business do a lot of freelance, or just can't afford the nice desktop setups with big external monitors, and do most of their work on their laptops, so no matter what you might say about "you should have this or that", the fact of the matter is there are many people who will be disappointed by this move away from the professional market.
 
the trackpad IS the button

Okay, I'm not sure if this was unclear only to me or to others as well, but I just got done watching the video on the MacBook (reminiscent of "how a crayon is born" ala Mr. Rogers) and saw what they mean by "the trackpad IS the button" statement.

This is not a "we are forcing you to 'tap to click' now" thing. They have made it so the ENTIRE trackpad is a button, and when you "click" you push the ENTIRE trackpad (or more realistically, the corner of the trackpad) down into the body of the machine. This way you do have the textile recognition of "pushing" rather than tapping.

I still don't care for the idea of it, but it is at least quite a bit different than "tap to click" as we have known it.
 
can some explain the 1984 fisaco.

1984 was completely brilliant.
No fiasco whatsoever.

Ya know, I have been living around MacRumors for more than 6 years now, and with EVERY update, there are many who whine about something they don't like. And every time "Steve has to go".
And usually the AAPL share rises right before the event, and tumble during and down right after.. usually because not every rumour came true!

I remember the intro of the 1st gen iPod.... wahahaha.. how many whiners we had then!
Or, how about the PPC >> Intel switch?!? We have lost a few PPC die hard friends back then too.

Not all updates can find acceptance with everyone. Not everybody's needs are fulfilled with new products, and of course not everything can be in accordance with everyone's taste.
But more often than not.... Steve had the vision.... we usually haven't. ;)

I would like to have seen FW 400 on the new 13" MacBook. Or have a DVI based 24" glossy to go with my Mac Pro. (I love glossy..!). But I see the reason for a 24" companion for the MacBook Pro. I ams sure a DVI to DisplayPort adapter will find its way into the Apple Store.
 
Apple Store still down?

I for one am excited! Is the Apple Store still down? I cannot get to the store to buy one! Also, I didn't hear any information about hybrid SLI, will these two cards allow one to do that?
 
Im dissapointed. I was hoping for a quad core imac.
Both Asus and Lenovo has come out with a quad core laptop
with intels new quad core mobile cpu's, why not imac ??

You do realize today's event was strictly focusing on notebooks, right? Hence no discussion on desktops so that should answer your question on why no mention of iMacs.
 
Question. Is anyone (besides me) happy with the updates? I suppose I'm your "average joe" in terms of what I do with my computer, but even so?

Sorry: Meant to post this in the MB section
 
Okay, I'm not sure if this was unclear only to me or to others as well, but I just got done watching the video on the MacBook (reminiscent of "how a crayon is born" ala Mr. Rogers) and saw what they mean by "the trackpad IS the button" statement.

This is not a "we are forcing you to 'tap to click' now" thing. They have made it so the ENTIRE trackpad is a button, and when you "click" you push the ENTIRE trackpad (or more realistically, the corner of the trackpad) down into the body of the machine. This way you do have the textile recognition of "pushing" rather than tapping.

I still don't care for the idea of it, but it is at least quite a bit different than "tap to click" as we have known it.

wouldnt that lead to faster wear and tear on such a large space being pushed up and down? interesting, didnt realize this about the 'feature'

peace

dAlen
 
This sucks.

The Macbook has no firewire, and no expresscard slot to add one?

For those who want a smaller laptop or can't afford the MBP, this really blows. This new Macbook is worthless...

I'm utterly disappointed. I had dreamed for months of pairing a small MB with my Apogee Duet audio interface for portable recording. How could they do this?

+1 to that, it's what I was going to do .

No firewire, No sale.

Not to mention the ******** price increases across the board in Australia.
 
This is a sad day for me - I just sent out a memo to my co-workers and the heads of the departments that they should tell me if they are planning on purchasing MBPs in the near future - I'll try to find some of the previous models with matte displays for them. Unfortunately, work-place ergonomics regulations here in Switzerland prevent us from purchasing glossy screens for full-time employees.

That's it folks - we're saying goodbye to Apple at work :-(

kis

Seriously? So you guys weren't allowed to have glass CRTs either? Did you really not get computers until LCD cames out? Or is this a new rule?
 
What I liked even more than that was when he said that you could just turn the notebook to not reflect off of the glass over the screen. BRILLIANT! Just offer a matte option, seriously.

Why didn't they just answer straight: "Anti-glare screens cost more money to make."

They almost said this when asked about Blu-ray. They said the license was to expensive. If they can say that about one missing feature why not use the same reason to explain the lack of an anti-glare feature?

And what about the new 24" display with it's shiny screen? "It's a notebook you can just turn it. Oh wait, no it's a huge ACD. Well you can change the lights in the room and hang blackout cloth over the window. Calibration devices will work if you perform the calibration in a completely dark room."

Bottom line: There are more people who want to use computers as entertainment devices then for creative work. Apple is going with the numbers

The good news is the Dell LCD monitors are not so bad and there is little reason to pay the Apple premium price so int eh end we can save some money.
 
How to switch between Graphics Cards?

When someone gets the new MacBook Pro can they explain to me how to switch between discrete and integrated graphics? I assume it has to be a software function but there is no documentation on this. Maybe it's because they wouldn't want it to look complicated? Go against the simple Apple way? Although I bet it is simple to do..:D
 
+1 to that, it's what I was going to do .

No firewire, No sale.

Not to mention the ******** price increases across the board in Australia.

I agree with you about the pricing. $2735 for high end MB + applecare - edu discount. Blew my $2500 budget. Never imagined I'd have to pay so much for it
 
Question. Is anyone (besides me) happy with the updates? I suppose I'm your "average joe" in terms of what I do with my computer, but even so?

Sorry: Meant to post this in the MB section

The updates are not bad, per say.
They actually are cool.

It just seems that for some of us, apple missed the boat on the pro end.
Having an updated Nvidia card and option for Intels new quad processors would have been nice.

Also matte as an option is nice...it truly gives me eyestrain and a headache using glossy monitors...but I do like them, just cant work with them.

Also, blu ray could have been added...Phil even bluntly stated that they want people using itunes for movies...so they will wait until the last minute to support it...which for pros, is not a cool thing. (well depending on who the pro is.)

But again, aside from that, yes they do look nice, and it is good to finally see apple put 4gb ram standard in a machine. A long way from my 667 where they gave a whole 256mb of ram..how generous art thou oh apple. lol

Peace

dAlen
 
Firewire firewire firewire

Forget all the hoopla about being environmentally friendly, made from a solid block of aluminium, looks beautiful, yad yada yada. They've made it much cheaper and alienated a whole generation of users with firewire drives. Just another greedy corporate now heading down the Microsoft track. What a shame.:mad:
 
no, your hi-speed harddisk is connected to the FW800 bus, so where are you going to put the camera???

you do not seriously think that you can daisy chain that with full HD...

and how do you get footage from your camcorder to that new MB????

vSpacken

FYI, if you hooked a hard drive up to FW800 and a camcorder up to FW400 (on the older Macbook Pros) they were sharing the same bus inside.

Meaning: It's the same as daisy-chaining!
 
I think for as many people that say they don't like it, there are those who love the new look. I am one of them. I also remember how people hated the look of many previously release products like the iPod, iMac, Mouse and variations. Why don't you take a little time to cool and go check it out at an Apple store first. These are going to sell and YOU will buy one PERIOD.
 
Prices

Prices for the new macbooks and new macbook pros are way too high. Honestly, there does not appear to be too many new features. This is the second consecutive Apple event in which they failed miserably. Unfortunately, I have become a slave to Apple, and I will therefore most likely buy one anyway, but I am really not happy at all.
 
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