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Apple Announces New MacBook Pros, Updates MacBook Air
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It seemed to imply that today they are being refreshed...wait, no not implied...go to the Apple store. It actually says NEW beside the 17 inch. (this is the joke)
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I'm confused here. Surely matt screens are matt because the surface is smearing out the light, diffusing it. That means that you're not seeing the pure colour that's underneath, but a colour filtered through the smeared out ambient light ?
'Glossy' screen actually just reflect ambient light straight back the way it came, so you see a purer image underneath. That's the reason most TVs are glossy, and why almost all photographers display their prints under 'normal' 'glossy' glass, not the non-reflective kind.
.... or am I totally mistaken... ?
If so, aren't glossy screens actually going to be BETTER for graphic design ?
IMO the problem with the ones we've had so far has been the poor performance of the panel underneath, which has suffered from a high degree of colour shift. It's nothing to do with the reflectiveness of the surface.....
'Glossy' screen actually just reflect ambient light straight back the way it came, so you see a purer image underneath. That's the reason most TVs are glossy, and why almost all photographers display their prints under 'normal' 'glossy' glass, not the non-reflective kind.
.... or am I totally mistaken... ?
If so, aren't glossy screens actually going to be BETTER for graphic design ?
IMO the problem with the ones we've had so far has been the poor performance of the panel underneath, which has suffered from a high degree of colour shift. It's nothing to do with the reflectiveness of the surface.....
Thank you! I was so worried back in July when I bought my Macbook Pro that they might be updated and be so full of awesome. (remember all those rumors that the new macbooks would come out in July) I'm glad I made the choice back then to get one and not wait. Besides, I like the old design better.
A good summary. ++ to you sir.
I'm following your lead and logging off, going to go hit a small black ball around.
I'm following your lead and logging off, going to go hit a small black ball around.
With only about 30% of what I do taking place in a studio, a laptop is a necessary evil. Having a monitor that makes everything look 'pretty' does me absolutely no good! I need to know what things REALLY will look like before I get back to the studio and work 'em up on a 'real' computer! If my shoot computer shows me a high-contrast, brighter-than-real image, I am bound to have an underexposed final file waiting for me when I load the files onto my studio computer. (And before any of you smarty-pants chime in that I should check the histogram for exposure...that only works in 'normal' lighting situations...in almost everything I do, the histogram reference is simply an added tool...it is NEVER the final determining factor in me making a certain exposure!)
Look...I personally don't do any critical retouching on a laptop, but why shouldn't I have the option to? Apple is being so amazingly short-sighted by not offering a matte option it isn't even worth defending why they aren't. There isn't a single high-end user who works in graphics that would choose a glossy monitor over a matte version, unless by some miracle, a new, as yet undiscovered technology were invented making the two versions spit out the exact same result.
BT in NYC
has anyone plugged a firewire 800 hard drive a firewire 400 HDV camera into one firewire 800 port with splitters and adapters? How does it work?
Do they even work right?
I know doing video editing, computers are very very very picky do you get drop frames?
Do they even work right?
I know doing video editing, computers are very very very picky do you get drop frames?
Mmm... I've been a mac user for pretty much all my computing life, and as sad as it is to say, this really is the nail into the coffin for professionals.
I know a lot of people have been whining on and on about all things wrong with this revision, but really this goes beyond the specs. This is pure neglect of the sector of the market that kept a fledgling company afloat during some very tough times. So what do we get in return?
A computer with a glossy screen that 'consumers will love'...
I remember walking into an apple store about a year or so after the first ipod came out. It was Christmas and the store was going mad; iPod dementia had hit the world. I eventually managed to get the attention of a store employee and all he could say as he rushed past was "the iPod will be the end of apple, trust me". He was right.
The ipod gave apple a taste of mass market success and everything that went with it. Money. Money that fueled R&D into consumer devices like iphones, macbooks and imacs. I have nothing against this, but have always feared that eventually this 'consumerism' will overthrow the pro sector.
Today it has.
I know a lot of people have been whining on and on about all things wrong with this revision, but really this goes beyond the specs. This is pure neglect of the sector of the market that kept a fledgling company afloat during some very tough times. So what do we get in return?
A computer with a glossy screen that 'consumers will love'...
I remember walking into an apple store about a year or so after the first ipod came out. It was Christmas and the store was going mad; iPod dementia had hit the world. I eventually managed to get the attention of a store employee and all he could say as he rushed past was "the iPod will be the end of apple, trust me". He was right.
The ipod gave apple a taste of mass market success and everything that went with it. Money. Money that fueled R&D into consumer devices like iphones, macbooks and imacs. I have nothing against this, but have always feared that eventually this 'consumerism' will overthrow the pro sector.
Today it has.
mmm... OK - so I'll stick with my MBP for now.. One thing I really value is the ability to run an audio interface over FW800 and an external HD over FW400 on my current machine.
It's really interesting watching 'pro's' getting some stick for complaining about the new MBP upgrade. I suppose you could class me as one of those - using a MBP in the field for audio/video/photography work. I'm not bitching about the updates though. It's just the way Apple seem to be going - more consumer based - that's where the $ is I guess.
An to be frank - There's no way I would do any 'critical' colour work on any laptop screen. Can't speak for others though.
I would not be surprised if a ground glass matte screen appears as an option on the MBPs though... and to be honest - I should really be using eSata drives via and express card for my video work on location.
A history lesson well remembered....
<complain>How can I live without a floppy drive!</complain>
<whine>What no internal modem!</whine>
I reality - I don't like the upgrades - so I'll stick where I am for a while - But I think Apple will address the gloss only screen on the MBP -assuming this is technically possible - It can't be that difficult can it?
I may snap up a couple of 23" ACD though whilst they're still around.
It's really interesting watching 'pro's' getting some stick for complaining about the new MBP upgrade. I suppose you could class me as one of those - using a MBP in the field for audio/video/photography work. I'm not bitching about the updates though. It's just the way Apple seem to be going - more consumer based - that's where the $ is I guess.
An to be frank - There's no way I would do any 'critical' colour work on any laptop screen. Can't speak for others though.
I would not be surprised if a ground glass matte screen appears as an option on the MBPs though... and to be honest - I should really be using eSata drives via and express card for my video work on location.
A history lesson well remembered....
<complain>How can I live without a floppy drive!</complain>
<whine>What no internal modem!</whine>
I reality - I don't like the upgrades - so I'll stick where I am for a while - But I think Apple will address the gloss only screen on the MBP -assuming this is technically possible - It can't be that difficult can it?
I may snap up a couple of 23" ACD though whilst they're still around.
It's a question that didn't need to be asked. All you need is a cable that is the 800-standard plug on one end, and the 400-standard plug on the other end. It's automatically backwards-compatible, and has been ever since 800 was introduced.
Sounds like a wonderful idea. Let's drum up some venture capital and start a computer company to make pro machines that'll pick up where Apple dropped us off
I was hoping Apple Toy Company would spin off the neglected "professional" computer business with Woz as the new CEO.
Bluray reason not believable
Now that HD-DVD is dead and Bluray is catching on even on cheap laptops, Apple does not have a valid excuse for not including bluray drives in their computers. While, I would rather watch Bluray movies in my projector from my PS3, there are several people on the go that will want to watch BD movies on their 1920x1080 resolution laptops or connect their laptops to projectors/monitors.
The drives are about $150. So, make it BTO.
Now that HD-DVD is dead and Bluray is catching on even on cheap laptops, Apple does not have a valid excuse for not including bluray drives in their computers. While, I would rather watch Bluray movies in my projector from my PS3, there are several people on the go that will want to watch BD movies on their 1920x1080 resolution laptops or connect their laptops to projectors/monitors.
The drives are about $150. So, make it BTO.
First time buyer
I've been a long time lurker and signed up just now to these forums to comment specifically on the notebook announcement. I was going to take my first dip into the Apple world to buy a MBP. But after seeing the UK price (£1400), I think I'm going to stick to Windows with a Dell or Sony Vaio (luckily I get 30% discounts on Vaios where I work).
Don't these people realise that there is a credit crunch and instead of upping prices they should be dropping them?
Severely disappointed....
I've been a long time lurker and signed up just now to these forums to comment specifically on the notebook announcement. I was going to take my first dip into the Apple world to buy a MBP. But after seeing the UK price (£1400), I think I'm going to stick to Windows with a Dell or Sony Vaio (luckily I get 30% discounts on Vaios where I work).
Don't these people realise that there is a credit crunch and instead of upping prices they should be dropping them?
Severely disappointed....
Ssd??
I am about to pull the trigger on a 15" MBP. Definitely going with 2.8 C2D, 4gb ram, but I can't decide to go with the 320 gb 7200 or to shell out $500 for SSD. I'd like to hear some opinions...i can just see SSD prices dropping rapidly soon, but i could live with 128 GB.
I am about to pull the trigger on a 15" MBP. Definitely going with 2.8 C2D, 4gb ram, but I can't decide to go with the 320 gb 7200 or to shell out $500 for SSD. I'd like to hear some opinions...i can just see SSD prices dropping rapidly soon, but i could live with 128 GB.
i am impressed with the new manufacturing techniques and how much they've streamlined and simplified the design. so, the new notebooks are both structurally rigid and aesthetically sound. but, i can't help but be a little dissapointed, even if it might sound superfluous, in regards to the choice of putting a black border around the screen bezel, ala iMac and to top it off, place a glass over it????? it's certainly keeping with the times and with the viaos of the world, but i can't help but admit that it does make me shake my head a little bit. sure, the black border and glass adds a little style and flair to the overall picture and it makes it look like a viao, but the whole understated appeal of the old notebooks are gone. and by understatement, i mean, industrial-look, whatever that means. i am certainly nitpicking and it is not by anymeans a dealbreaker, for me, but, i just wished they had made the MBP (at least) have an aluminum bezel just like the MBAIR. why??? i don't know. i think aluminum around the screen is better than a black border. that's it.
i am thinking that they will probably changed the color of the bezel in the next update and could be silver, ala, iphone/ipod. just a thought.
as for the scpecs? eh....
i am thinking that they will probably changed the color of the bezel in the next update and could be silver, ala, iphone/ipod. just a thought.
as for the scpecs? eh....