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Apple Announces New MacBook Pros, Updates MacBook Air

ajpl said:
Complete nonsense. I'm typing on my 3yr old 13" Sony and it has Firewire, just like the other laptops I looked at at same time, though there was no small Mac laptop I could buy with as good a screen and as smal with firewire.

Dont be quick on your judgements; see what is available around and then judge the content of the specific post. Sony laptops in general are expensive though quite good machines, speaking only upon hardware criteria. Your 3 years old Sony may have a firewire port but this doesnt mean that most of consumer pc laptops have this port. Even if they have it, they have the mini firewire port which is not the very best you can have. Most entry level pc laptops i have seen from friends or from various web sites dont offer firewire.

Anyway, apple disappointed serious mac users for another one time. Day by day it is converting to a barbie–doll company.
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This is the least I've ever followed an Apple event - I was at work all evening... Has anyone managed to get hold of one in the UK yet? I really need a new one before Thursday... Popped into Regent Street on my way home to looks of astonishment from the staff members when I asked for a new MBP... hmm...
 
strikeinsilence said:
Sorry, but Mac OSX is a must. How could you go back to Windows just cause you don't like the most recent apple hardware? Anyways, that Wacom looks tiny and useless.
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and look at the trackpad! It's soooo tiny!!! You'd either have to make it insanely sensitive or constantly be picking up your finger to pan across the screen.
 
ChrisA said:
Web design is one area where a glossy screen would work fine. The problem with glossy is NOT seeing the screen. It is color fidelity. A web designer does not have to worry it the printed product matches the on-screen view because there is no printed product.

The problem with the glossy screen is that it exaggerates color contrast. Consumers like this it make everything look bright and more colorful but people who design for other than the web want "accurate" not "exaggerate".

What's odd to me is that Apple does not even have "accurate" as a build to order, extra price option.
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ChrisA said:
Glossy screens work for for email, web and watching DVDs. They are not good at all for work where color fidelity matters like where you care a lot about the exact shade of red you will use on a product or when you are adjusting color on a photograph.

You could post to macrumors on a black and white monitor.
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1. Explain how you get such color perfection on displays that can only do 262,144 colors (6bit panels)

2. Explain how photographers and other pros worked for years on glossy CRTs before matte LCD displays came along.
 
Tosser said:
No, not really. I'm one of "those guys" who kept them afloat when times were hard for them. Most likely before you were out of your diapers.
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You kept them afloat, the same dude who goes on random sites bashing Apple, what do they own you, they don't own you jack.
 
Mr. Giver '94 said:
The best thing they talked about was the Air processing and HD boosts and the new Cinema Display... :)
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Before you get too excited about the new Cinema Display keep in mind that it only works with the new laptops they just announced, you can't use it with your existing Mac even if you just bought your Mac today.
 
they have the nerve to charge $29 bucks for a mini display port to dvi cable after I just got over buying converter cables for their proprietary mini dvi port.

and you pretty much piss off anyone who has any kind of firewire device
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Edit: What the! ...$99!!!! for mini display port to dual link dvi?!?!?
 
Timichango said:
Nor does it make life better for the end-user, given what we're all going to have to pay for it in sacrificed usefulness.
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Well I didn't buy the last MB because it was plastic and it doesn't have the durability that I prefer in a laptop. This update provides a very, very strong case that can stand up to just about anything and for the longevity of the product I think it's great. Since snow leopard is going to be tapping into the GPU you'll easily be functionally using these computer for 3+ years.
 
Backlit Keyboard

I really dislike the backlit keyboard color. It's like a blue-green/indigo color, and it looks like some cheap gaming keyboard when lit. The white led keyboard of the old MacBook Pros look a lot more classy.
 
strikeinsilence said:
Huh, the MBA obvously has no black bezel or glass screen, how is it like the iMac? If the new MBP screen was just like the MBA's but matte I would have bought this new on in a instant.
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My bad, wasn't specific enough about what I meant. When mentioning the MBA I was thinking about this new black-on-aluminum, that Apple is going for, in general.

With this black-alu theme the line between making the product look like an "true" Apple product and some generic HP/Dell/Lenovo laptop is razor thin. IMHO Apple stepped over that line with the look they announced today.
 
Hmmm I'm sure they are nice notebooks but I can't help but look at the new MacBook and MBP as in effect the range being merged.

Same case design, keyboard, dedicated graphics, glossy screens.

It's got an awful lot to do with Apple reducing their manufacturing costs. Look at other notebook ranges across their brands. Only real difference is the ports available and higher spec graphics. If anything I'd suggest that other laptop manufacturers differentiate their respective consumer and pro brands more than Apple do now.

No matte screen from Apple is unbelievable to be honest given traditional pro market they appeal too. Just at the time manufacturers such as HP are rolling out true 8 bit displays Apple reduce the choice of their range. Matte and glossy available in a couple of resolutions would have been nice on a 15".

I actually think the new MacBook is the more appealing. Many on here have said why not put out a 13" MBP, well this looks pretty close to it to me.

Apple are also really taking the !!!! in the UK with pricing. The top of the range Macbook is almost the same as the previous MBP. Both Macbooks are out of the bottom end of the market hence the carry over of the previous generation Macbook (at an increased price).

Is this a case of Apple assuming that they are going to sell less notebooks over the coming years (credit crunch) and therefore heading up market whilst at the same time reducing manufacturing costs? Given the current climate you can't really blame them.
 
gmcbay said:
Before you get too excited about the new Cinema Display keep in mind that it only works with the new laptops they just announced, you can't use it with your existing Mac even if you just bought your Mac today.
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ARE YOU SERIOUS!!! ok now im pissed these arent ipods with a dock...we are talkin 4000 plus buckarros here

oh steve you continuously know how to out d*ck yourself
 
bigmc6000 said:
75% of apple buyers??? If they already bought then obviously a larger screen wasn't enough to keep them away. As apple said their #1 laptop is the 13.3" MB. Also, 75% of their buyers rarely, if ever, max out their laptops for extended periods of time. Yes, Apple leaves out features that other manufacturers deem as "basic" but they've always done that - nothing new here. Well, outside of leaving out the FW port on the MB, that's pretty crappy...
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Sorry. I was referring to 75% of the people who want to buy a MacBook Pro because most want to go with the Pro so that they can "max it out."

The lack of FW was the main thing I was talking about with the lack of features thing, but it just seems like they were rushing like they have been with some of their other more recent updates.
 
vvebsta said:
they have the nerve to charge $29 bucks for a mini display port to dvi cable after I just got over buying converter cables for their proprietary mini dvi port.

and you pretty much piss off anyone who has any kind of firewire device
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My only guess is that's why they left the bottom line MB for those that have to have FW but don't want to pay twice as much until they can manage to squeeze a FW port into the next rev of the MB.

I'm sure there's room in there somewhere right?? Personally I'd prefer a FW port over a kensington lock any day but that's just me...
 
wrightc23 said:
Hmmm I'm sure they are nice notebooks but I can't help but look at the new MacBook and MBP as in effect the range being merged.

Same case design, keyboard, dedicated graphics, glossy screens.

It's got an awful lot to do with Apple reducing their manufacturing costs. Look at other notebook ranges across their brands. Only real difference is the ports available and higher spec graphics. If anything I'd suggest that other laptop manufacturers differentiate their respective consumer and pro brands more than Apple do now.

No matte screen from Apple is unbelievable to be honest given traditional pro market they appeal too. Just at the time manufacturers such as HP are rolling out true 8 bit displays Apple reduce the choice of their range. Matte and glossy available in a couple of resolutions would have been nice on a 15".

I actually think the new MacBook is the more appealing. Many on here have said why not put out a 13" MBP, well this looks pretty close to it to me.

Apple are also really taking the !!!! in the UK with pricing. The top of the range Macbook is almost the same as the previous MBP. Both Macbooks are out of the bottom end of the market hence the carry over of the previous generation Macbook (at an increased price).

Is this a case of Apple assuming that they are going to sell less notebooks over the coming years (credit crunch) and therefore heading up market whilst at the same time reducing manufacturing costs? Given the current climate you can't really blame them.
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nope...they are fine and it would make sense that they would begin to merge the two lines as rumors previously mentioned...maybe this is the beginning
 
devman said:
2. Explain how photographers and other pros worked for years on glossy CRTs before matte LCD displays came along.
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And please explain why an upgrade should mean taking one step back? :confused:

Edit: Digitalfrog beat me to it.
 
people need to calm down, its like the "fat" nano..people hated it in pictures until they held it in their hands...thats when they fell in love with it.
this, i think, will be the same.
and glossy is seriously not that big of a deal...i've sat with my glossy mac in the sun...i know its a huge hassle for us fatass americans to move 180* to adjust our positions. :p
 
I need to start a business selling thin films to apply to glossy type displays to convert them to matte, or errrr.....protect the screen.

How dare Apple make the cases stronger too!!! I like my MBP flexy. And those stupid chiclet keys.....ugh, I might as well be typing directly on a glossy touch screen display. Really though, you guys think Apple is training us for a future product?
 
slowpoe said:
and now they dont need you anymore :) they have a big brand new market...they are not arrogant they play off the arrogance of others...they have been walking a fine line brilliantly and well...they are for consumers now
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Consumers are driven by fad, for the most part. At some point they'll fade or go towards the next fad and Apple will have to fall back on their core pro market to survive.

Unless they chase all their pro customers off first, of course.
 
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