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Well, Apple has surpassed MS in some ways.




LOL, I did. But the only thing you could come up with was some fanboy reply that basically said "if you don't like what's offered, piss off! Apple is always right".
I described what I saw.
But that's the way it is, Apple does things their way, if you don't like it, there are many others out there for you, that's why you have a choice and decide with your wallet.
 
So is anyone offering quad core laptops yet?

Do the high end models announced today have the fastest chips available from intel?
 
But they are a growing company and they need to develop for their new demographics which are consumers, I'm sorry but the pro users are getting smaller and smaller for them.

Yes, but your argument was implicitly that the lowest common denominator was the ONLY segment a company should cater to, and that we - as consumers - should be happy about that.

Secondly, yes, we might become a smaller and smaller segment, but if you notice, Apple would STILL like to sell their machines on our backs. The reputation WE made sure they had. Look at the effing name scheme for crying out loud.
 
So is anyone offering quad core laptops yet?

Do the high end models announced today have the fastest chips available from intel?


The new screen is priced at $899 and will be available in November and requires a new MacBook, MacBook Pro or MacBook Air with the Mini DisplayPort connector. More details can be found at http://www.apple.com/displays/

;) Not even funny apple.

Yeah you can get Asus 2.5 quad core extreme

http://uk.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=5&l2=74&l3=763&l4=0&model=2415&modelmenu=2

How can you say apple's doesn't need to cater for the pro market. They bought logic studio!
 
WTF?? No option for matte display?

Hopefully Power Support with get the anti-glare film for this thing released soon. Still, that's a lame decision on Apple's part.




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At their Notebook Media event today, Apple announced new 15" MacBook PRos with improved graphics performance, and glass Multi-Touch trackpads.

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But that's the way it is, Apple does things their way, if you don't like it, there are many others out there for you, that's why you have a choice and decide with your wallet.

Again, not being a consumer from the lowest common segment, this is not as easy as it is for such a consumer.
And again, they STILL would like to piggy back on the professionals in their marketing. You don't think that's a tad sleezy?

I cannot believe how many people on these boards are so dug in fanboys they will actually ask people to migrate just to keep their bubble of ignorance intact.
I wonder: Do you also think that the iPhone 3G was a "revolutionary" device and/or that Apple somehow invented the technology behind it?
 
This is the least I've ever followed an Apple event - I was at work all evening... Has anyone managed to get hold of one in the UK yet? I really need a new one before Thursday... Popped into Regent Street on my way home to looks of astonishment from the staff members when I asked for a new MBP... hmm...

hi there did the same at the regent street store and got the same reception... allthough tomorow 9am they will have some so if you want one i reccomend you go tomorow... u never know u may see me in there as ill spend a few hours playing around witht them even if i have allready boguht the new one today lol:cool:
 
ENOUGH!!!!

This is a horrible update for “pro” users and no matter how you feel about the screen, then firewire, or anything else, one thing you should know as a “pro” is that what works for you, doesn’t work for others. The lack of options in this lineup is the biggest problem. Just because a glossy screen works for you and your work situation, does not mean it will work for someone else with different needs in another situation. Great, so firewire 800 is back compatible with 400. But some people need more than 1 port! Oh the express adapter, yea, well some people need more that 2 ports! In the old configuration you could get 3 ports that where all stable and no need to daisy chain, which doesn’t work with HD video (or SD even). Hell just a simple focus group with Final Cut Pro users would have told Apple, that they all use it differently. They all have different needs, and setups. We should give them the flexibility to do what works best for them. But that’s not where Apple seems headed. With this update Apple seems to be saying, “we’ll tell you what your workflow will be, and how you get there, oh and that will be determined by what we think will sell in the consumer market”.

In the old setup, both FW ports were on the same bus. Anything with a decent enough data-rate to warrant 800 would saturate the bus, so using the 400 at the same time would actually decrease overall efficiency. The pro field is certainly moving towards eSATA for everything but offload from the master in data centric workflows. Hell, I'm even seeing LTO-3A tape drives in flight cases on set more and more!

The lovely AJA IoHD, which connects over firewire is one such device that fully saturates the bus.

Hell, Apple kept the old 17 for the video hardcore, which is something in itself. Actually it did the same with a G4 in the dying days of OS9.
 
Yes, but your argument was implicitly that the lowest common denominator was the ONLY segment a company should cater to, and that we - as consumers - should be happy about that.

Secondly, yes, we might become a smaller and smaller segment, but if you notice, Apple would STILL like to sell their machines on our backs. The reputation WE made sure they had. Look at the effing name scheme for crying out loud.
Okay dude I get your point. :)
 
... and now we learn that we need to log out to change our change of graphic chip preferences on the MBP...
 
Sorry. I was referring to 75% of the people who want to buy a MacBook Pro because most want to go with the Pro so that they can "max it out."

The lack of FW was the main thing I was talking about with the lack of features thing, but it just seems like they were rushing like they have been with some of their other more recent updates.

what lack of firewire? firewire 800 is backward compatible. Just buy the ten-fifteen dollar converter. :rolleyes:
 
The new designs look pretty decent, if overpriced.

Since I can't possibly afford 2 grand for a new notebook, and the new MacBooks don't exist for me since I absolutely require a Firewire port, Apple has interestingly pushed me into buying the $999 MB instead of the $1100-1300 I was planning to spend for one of the new MBs.
 
Apple Feedback is what we all should be doing right now. Apple listens to their feedback. We should be flooding their inbox right now. If any of you remember the Nvidia graphics solution they did with the 8800 card for the late 2008 mac pros. That was due to our whining and petitioning. So they do listen. So get to it people!
 
I was going to get a MBP, but no way now. What were they thinking?

I hope their sales are really hurt. I know a couple of people who were thinking of getting one but not anymore.

Maybe iCore7 will be sweeter?
 
I work in an Apple retail store.

I can count the amount of glossy MacBook Pros I've sold since I started in June: three. I just set the two side-by-side and 95% of the time, the customer goes with Antiglare. And they usually tell me to "make sure it's Antiglare" several times during the transaction. So, I don't know where Apple's getting their information that consumers want glossy. Probably most of the MacBook Pros I sell are the entry-level $1999, going to college students. Last check, college students are average consumers.
And I see shattered iPhone/iPod touch screens everyday in the store, I guess we'll just add MacBook/MacBook Pro screens (and trackpads) to that list.

I've been a big Apple promoter for years and pride myself on having a lot of knowledge about the Apple brand. I have converted many family members and friends. I will continue to do so, but I haven't been able to talk as positive about Apple products within the past year or so than years before. Seems like a lot of the good innovation Apple had left around the time of the Intel transition ending. It's just kinda sad that I'm not as enthusiastic as I used to be. I'm not leaving Apple, Apple is just leaving me (and most of the rest of us it seems).
 
So is anyone else outraged that they lowered the student discounts? 5% instead of 10% off.

Apple seems to be gearing the new MBP to consumers more than ever - it even comes in a white box (but so does the Air, and the new display, maybe black boxes are over with?)
 
I was going to get a MBP, but no way now. What were they thinking?

I hope their sales are really hurt. I know a couple of people who were thinking of getting one but not anymore.

Maybe iCore7 will be sweeter?
You hope their sales are hurt, that's a tad selfish I would say. :rolleyes:
 
So is anyone else outraged that they lowered the student discounts? 5% instead of 10% off.

Apple seems to be gearing the new MBP to consumers more than ever - it even comes in a white box (but so does the Air, and the new display, maybe black boxes are over with?)

Doesn't affect me, but I feel for you - they're doing the rounds proper today, and kicking everyone where it hurts. Today sucks.
 
I'll go for either the base 15" MacBook Pro or the $1599 MacBook with BTO.

Wow. How do you NOT update the 17 inch to match the 15 inch?!?!
The same thing happened with the Intel switch, but it wasn't a cosmetic revision that time.

And a number of people were claiming that the MacBook and MacBook Pro would merge into one line. Given the looks and specs, that doesn't seem too far from the truth now. :eek:

I suspected this some time ago, but this confirms my suspicions. The MacBook Pro is becoming more consumer-ish. And when we stated that the MacBook Pro wasn't really "pro," others claimed that it's good enough, "buy a Mac Pro," and that thinness is what comes first.

Well, you get what you asked for. At least it's .05" thinner! :D:rolleyes:

So is anyone offering quad core laptops yet?

Do the high end models announced today have the fastest chips available from intel?
These CPUs are the fastest possible CPUs for the TDP zone of the MacBook Pros.
 
You hope their sales are hurt, that's a tad selfish I would say. :rolleyes:

Is it? Are we supposed to have generous and altruistic feelings towards a company that's ceased embracing our needs?

I don't think so - voting with dollars is the only thing that affects the decisions of corporations, so I too hope that their sales reflect the anger around here today so that they fix the problems, and earn our f'n business, instead of simply assuming it.
 
Is it? Are we supposed to have generous and altruistic feelings towards a company that's ceased embracing our needs?

I don't think so - voting with dollars is the only thing that affects the decisions of corporations, so I too hope that their sales reflect the anger around here today so that they fix the problems, and earn our f'n business, instead of simply assuming it.
That's absolute bull, if a company doesn't meet my needs, I move onto someone else who does, I don't go around wishing that they fail, but I see how fickle consumers are. :rolleyes:
 
Overall interesting update. I wouldn't say that I am disappointed, because I am still fine with my MBP I got back in January of '07. Overall though, I think I will wait until the next revision before I even consider upgrading.

First off I really think the MBP is a bit ugly. While the black bezel helps offset the ugly black keyboard in my opinion, it still just doesn't go with the aluminum casing (but that's just me). Plus, with the lack of the trackpad button, the lack of the silver latch on the front and the visible IR receiver, I think the laptop just looks way too simple! I think Apple's ideas of simple designs is nice, but now they are just taking it a bit too far for my liking. After all, if I spend $1999 for a laptop I'd like it to look at least a little bit expensive. ;)

The price is the next problem I have with it. It just seems too expensive for what you are getting. When I bought my MBP, I did so because I felt there was nothing else even close to it, and thus I was willing to fork over $2,000. Now, I think that many PC manufacturers have begun to close the gap. There are many more PC products out there that are beginning to look appealing. I still think Apple's laptops are better, but it seems like they would want to make it a bit more competitive. And going further, I'm not sure I'd even buy the MBP. The MB, being much cheaper, has the same look to it, basically the same features, just a bit less performance. Frankly if I had to buy an Apple laptop tomorrow I'd go with that and just save some cash.

Also a bit confused why they left the white MacBook and 17 inch MBP with their old design, but oh well. Overall I'd have to say that this isn't really better, its just different (maybe even worse).
 
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