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Apple Announces New MacBook Pros, Updates MacBook Air
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But that is your personal opinion, people on these boards generally have negative views after products are updated but the majority of Apple's customers are happy with these updates which is why sales keep rising despite the wishes of y'all.
No matte, no sale
What stupid thinking. Every photographer knows how annoying glossy screens are. Every light and window is reflected. Saying extra brightness makes up for it is like saying you can use your high quality stereo speakers next to the washing machine because now there's more volume to drown out the other noise. Does apple think we're taking that argument seriously?
Hey Apple - I'm not buying it! And I'm not buying one until you offer a matte screen!
(How much to you want to bet no one is listening...)
What stupid thinking. Every photographer knows how annoying glossy screens are. Every light and window is reflected. Saying extra brightness makes up for it is like saying you can use your high quality stereo speakers next to the washing machine because now there's more volume to drown out the other noise. Does apple think we're taking that argument seriously?
Hey Apple - I'm not buying it! And I'm not buying one until you offer a matte screen!
(How much to you want to bet no one is listening...)
Wrong-o. Saying I'd like to see their sales suffer in the short-term in order to affect a positive resolution to a newly-introduced problem, is not the same as saying I'd like to see them fail, as I expect that the people not buying will be waiting around for machines that fit the bill, and then ultimately giving them money for products we actually want.
If Apple failed I'd be doubly screwed. Executives seeing the bottom line on a product line take a hit sends a message that they need to shape up.
Right now I NEED a mac for work, so I'm going to be forced to buy one, but I'd sure as hell rather wait it out with everyone else that's pissed off in order to withhold my cash and wait for something that's not arbitrarily crappier than it needs to be.
Object of art but where's the function for productivity?
I was following the Engadget feed earlier today and in the Q & A, Steve seemed to be saying that the all glossy had to do with using glass, but there is good anti-glare glass out there. The answer seemed misleading and dismissive. I applaud a build that comes closer to a total recycle goal, but glossy screen aren't essential to that aim.
I like several things about the new laptops - the new case manufacturing looks great... Okay, I like one improvement on the new laptops. But the video port, the glossy screen and the no-button trackpad seem misguided at best - an abandonment of the laptops as functional productivity machines in the pursuit of industrial design at worst.
The video port. If Apple wants corporate users, they need to give us just a plain old DVI port. If i walk into the board room tomorrow or a stakeholder meeting, the wiring harness in the middle of that long cherry table or the cable from the Epson machine set up at the hotel meeting room are not going to have this little video port-type connector. They'll likely have a VGA connector (no worries - a common adapter will do the trick) but they may have a DVI option. This whole video port thing seems like the Apple Desktop Bus revisited - proprietary and as a result, less useful in daily business.
The glossy screen. Yikes. I'm looking at a lovely matte 23" Cinema HD, my PowerBook has a lovely matte screen. How much reflection is there? None - I don't have to recreate a solar max event on my desk to overcome the reflections by cranking up the brightness - in fact, I have my Cinema HD at a bit of a reduced brightness which results in a little less eye fatigue for me.
The trackpad. For years and years we've been asking for a two button mouse, errr trackpad. Not on the 603 machines, not on the 604 machines, not on the G3 or G4s, switch to Intel - still no. So what does Apple do? They take away the one button that we did have. How do I select text? There must be a way but holding down the button off the track pad and then selecting text or cropping a photo, etc. was very easy. What will the track pad think of my thumb holding down the track pad while I try and select text? Will it be some weird touch instruction (enough with the kludgy touch on the track pad gimmick already).
I was following the Engadget feed earlier today and in the Q & A, Steve seemed to be saying that the all glossy had to do with using glass, but there is good anti-glare glass out there. The answer seemed misleading and dismissive. I applaud a build that comes closer to a total recycle goal, but glossy screen aren't essential to that aim.
I like several things about the new laptops - the new case manufacturing looks great... Okay, I like one improvement on the new laptops. But the video port, the glossy screen and the no-button trackpad seem misguided at best - an abandonment of the laptops as functional productivity machines in the pursuit of industrial design at worst.
The video port. If Apple wants corporate users, they need to give us just a plain old DVI port. If i walk into the board room tomorrow or a stakeholder meeting, the wiring harness in the middle of that long cherry table or the cable from the Epson machine set up at the hotel meeting room are not going to have this little video port-type connector. They'll likely have a VGA connector (no worries - a common adapter will do the trick) but they may have a DVI option. This whole video port thing seems like the Apple Desktop Bus revisited - proprietary and as a result, less useful in daily business.
The glossy screen. Yikes. I'm looking at a lovely matte 23" Cinema HD, my PowerBook has a lovely matte screen. How much reflection is there? None - I don't have to recreate a solar max event on my desk to overcome the reflections by cranking up the brightness - in fact, I have my Cinema HD at a bit of a reduced brightness which results in a little less eye fatigue for me.
The trackpad. For years and years we've been asking for a two button mouse, errr trackpad. Not on the 603 machines, not on the 604 machines, not on the G3 or G4s, switch to Intel - still no. So what does Apple do? They take away the one button that we did have. How do I select text? There must be a way but holding down the button off the track pad and then selecting text or cropping a photo, etc. was very easy. What will the track pad think of my thumb holding down the track pad while I try and select text? Will it be some weird touch instruction (enough with the kludgy touch on the track pad gimmick already).
Much better option and you can get it with a great WUXGA RGB LED Edge To Edge Back-Lit display.
I hate to break it to you, but by all accounts, every single one shared the same defective material, so it's a matter of luck and/or time.
I'm certainly not rolling the dice on that one, given the odds.
Please Apple has always had higher prices than the competition but yet they keep selling. I'm sure Dell and HP would like to charge Apple prices but they can't because all they can do is compete on price.
The computer efficiency is also down to the components, such in this case, as the dual GPUs. As well as the O/S ( wait for Snow Leopard ).
These new Macbook Pros are more efficient than the early 2008 model. Personally, I'd be very happy to trade in my early 2008 for this model.
When it comes to the gloss v. matte debate, I always feel like I'm the only person on earth who prefers the gloss WAY more than matte.
Should there be a choice? Probably, but in 90% of the situations I use a laptop, gloss has the advantage by having better color vibrancy and saturation. Do you really use your laptop outside more than inside?
Also, in a completely unimportant point, if you put the two next to each other, glossy just plain looks classier.
Should there be a choice? Probably, but in 90% of the situations I use a laptop, gloss has the advantage by having better color vibrancy and saturation. Do you really use your laptop outside more than inside?
Also, in a completely unimportant point, if you put the two next to each other, glossy just plain looks classier.
I don't care about how the computer looks. I also don't use it outside. Where I do use the notebook is in offices where I cannot move my desk 180' to a better angle. I also cannot control the lighting over my desk. Glossy screens have no place in the corporate world.
I have a small HP lappy that I use around the house with the glossy screen. I hate it. Sure, the colors are more vivid, but it's like using a mirror. The screen also attracts dust and smudges.
The only reason I bought a MBP 17 is for the matte screen. Else, I would have saved $1500 and bought another Dell.
No FireWire 400 standard. No e-SATA. No Blu-Ray. No matte screen.
NZ$600 (US$275) increase in price for the MBP!!!
Apple will lose its footing in New Zealand (which was not strong to begin with).
Even the old white Macbook has gone up in price, without a change in specification. The new ones have gone up significantly (NZ$500).
The old 2.4GHz Macbook was $200 cheaper than the new 2.0GHz.
Someone please tell me this is not happening.
NZ$600 (US$275) increase in price for the MBP!!!
Apple will lose its footing in New Zealand (which was not strong to begin with).
Even the old white Macbook has gone up in price, without a change in specification. The new ones have gone up significantly (NZ$500).
The old 2.4GHz Macbook was $200 cheaper than the new 2.0GHz.
Someone please tell me this is not happening.
Can anyone confirm whether the $1349 15" MBP is the previous model (not few gens back)?
Apple might update the 17" MacBook Pro later in time to true "pro" specs, who knows?
Hmm, that my friend is a good question? Oh wait, you can't - the mimicked the iphone....
Seriously, 80% of my day is select, copy/cut and paste. More accurate than haveing to retype lots of lines of code.
Just when I was happy to dump my external mouse....
Nope, but what's the point of my expensive office space with great windows if now I need to buy heavy curtains, or re-arrange my entire office just to work around faultily designed gear??
The thing is some people don't like glossy. Thats it.
Would non smokers be expected to smoke if it didn't taste like smoke?
It's the price increase that upsets me the most. In NZ we are now paying 20% more money for a machine which is inferior to the old one.