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Apple Announces New MacBook Pros, Updates MacBook Air
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Yeah, it wouldn't hurt them to make it a little bit cheaper. Or is that just the "new" or "latest thing" tax that'll be dropped in a week?
I don't think it's Apple. Apple with out Steve may not continue on this downward spiral.
Huh?
Neither of them I'd say.
Doesn't every MacBook (except the Air) ever produced use SATA drives?
No, I totally get your point. I wouldn't want to purchase a new computer if you thought that the GPU would crap out. Personally though, I'd be comfortable knowing that Apple was replacing the GPU at no cost to the user.
If I really wanted a matte screen, I would buy the 17" and back up the data often. If it did crash, I would send it in and get it repaired. This is a viable option for me, considering that I'm fortunate enough to have another MBP at home, but I would understand how that would be a complete hassle and exercise in frustration for others.
I don't think this is an "it's only a matter of time" scenario. I have friends who have newer MBPs who have never had a problem with a GPU failure.
I think it's good that Apple is standing up to shoulder the burden with Nvidia. They must be taking a page from Microsoft's experience with the Xbox 360.
Yeah. It was a very sad day. I posted this story in another forum:
At the end of September, I was getting into my car when I got a call from my girlfriend saying she had been in a car accident. Well, as luck would have it, the signal dropped and so did the call. In a panic, I left my new Macbook Air on the top of my car when I was getting in. Long story short, it slid off the top of my car and got run over by two SUV's and a car. I was devastated at the time, but I managed to get $900 for it on eBay and my grandmother offerred to pay for the rest of a new one.
I decided to hold off the the new Macbooks, and now I can choose between a new MBA, MB or MBP! I can't wait.
p.s. My girlfriend ended up being perfectly fine. It was only a fender-bender and she wasn't even at fault.
It really is funny how these things work out.
I'm not sure you'll ever be happy if Apple keeps going in the direction they are. I sold my PB G4 a few months ago because it just couldn't keep up. Great computer though. I still haven't have an intel Mac that has been as stable as all the G4's I've had.
According to Wikipedia, 2001. Though I'm not sure I understand the relevance of your question?
There's a video of it on engadget - the process is entirely automatic, and takes 14 seconds. I wouldn't worry about it too much.
I agree with many of your points.
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...As some have stated (as well as you), there will likely be a market for Matte screen covers that can easily be applied (someone needs to put time into an easy application system), and provide the anti glare surface that will be highly desirable. The only issue that I see with them is the cost. I doubt anyone will make one for less than $40, as the iPod / iPhone versions are already $14 (absurd price for the type of plastic, and size of the protectors).
I could care less about many of the items other people are complaining about, And am Really excited to see what Snow Leopard will feel like on the new MBP when they add the GPU processing support. It appears to be a good solid system, with some good processing power.
The only thing that seriously pauses me from buying one, is the lack of the Core 2 Extreme processors, and eSATA options. I agree that the MBP is a great system (even if the Professionals they are after now appear to be Marketing / Business as opposed to Photo / Video / graphics professionals), and am still considering one despite the letdowns. Me moving to Lenovo is still an option, however I would also have to replace lots of Mac software I currently use
$40 is right - kabunaru posted a link to these guys, who already sell them for the (presumbly) previous models - $35 for 15", $40 for 17"! However, given the cost of producing two separate models, what with manufacturing, increased shipping necessitated by greater variety, &c., I wonder what the price increase to the consumer would have been if they had implemented a matte option as well?
eSata would also be nice; I've been looking at getting a stage rack so I can add more storage without having to buy more external drive cases - but I think it's too niche a port to include, especially at the expense of one of the other ports. There are ExpressCard eSata adaptors though - not quite as nice as an integrated port, to be sure, but they get the job done? It would be nice to have seen a bigger CPU bump - quad core would be nice, but then, for me, it makes it easier to resist upgrading so soon
! Speaking as someone who just switched from Windows, I'd recommend against it. It's unpleasant enough, even without the cost of replacing your software!I'm also pretty excited about the possibilities of Snow Leopard, and I really like the GPU-switching idea.
I'm quite happy to defer to your expertise here, but it's not as though Apple has abandoned FireWire completely - they've simply stopped putting the Legacy FW400 port on their laptops, which I think really isn't something worth getting worked up over - certainly not to the extent that some people have, particularly considering the FW800 is backwards-compatible.
Well... Apple is an American company after all, right?
You Americans must have had the most affordable prices on Apple products for pretty much the whole 10 years. So stop whining.
And just look at taxes: You only pay like... 8% or so sales tax on top of Apple's prices?! The lowest VAT (≈ sales tax) in the European Union is almost twice as high, at 15% (Luxembourg). But of course, not everything is worse in Europe (where I live) or elsewhere. Everything comes with its advantages and disadvantages.
I agree totally that the newly-antiquated models are a great value - if it's not a mission-critical machine for you, or you've got a backup, then for sure, give'r... the price is right.
Unfortunately it's not a calculated risk that I can personally take - I need a machine that I can rely upon. It's less about the cost associated with the repair (since apple's taking care of gpu failures) - it's the potential for downtime in the middle of a client deadline. It's a rock-and-a-hard-place issue, though... rev A new design, or gambly GPU... the devil you know vs the devil you don't...
I just wish I could shell out three grand and be able to feel a bit more comfortable about the decision
That is pretty nuts, must have been quite a day. $900 though? Way to test the value of the Mac, that's awesome.
Huh?
Neither of them I'd say.
Doesn't every MacBook (except the Air) ever produced use SATA drives?
Sorry - do you know which spec for SATA Apple uses?
Doesn't really matter if you want to upgrade.
Or is there another specific reason why you ask?
Just make sure you don't get a Samsung 160GB - 250GB conventional hard drive. Some of exhibited some weird issues. Nothing general on Samsung drives though.
Coming from a long PC background, I'm continually amazed at how Macs retain their value, even after a number of revisions. I guess it's just another reason to love the computers.
So all we got was a redesign and an updated graphics card?
...and they raised prices in some areas ie-1499 macbook to 1599 macbook
What is the deal Apple? I guess you are no different form Microsoft or any other greedy business.
On a side note, maybe we will see speed bumps and and internal updates sooner than expected just like last year when they updated in October and then in January...and with all of the people complaining maybe this isn't too farfetched?
...and they raised prices in some areas ie-1499 macbook to 1599 macbook
What is the deal Apple? I guess you are no different form Microsoft or any other greedy business.
On a side note, maybe we will see speed bumps and and internal updates sooner than expected just like last year when they updated in October and then in January...and with all of the people complaining maybe this isn't too farfetched?
Well... Apple is an American company after all, right?
You Americans must have had the most affordable prices on Apple products for pretty much the whole 10 years. So stop whining.
And just look at taxes: You only pay like... 8% or so sales tax on top of Apple's prices?! The lowest VAT (≈ sales tax) in the European Union is almost twice as high, at 15% (Luxembourg). But of course, not everything is worse in Europe (where I live) or elsewhere. Everything comes with its advantages and disadvantages.
No no, I'm not American. I said the USD has lost half its value against my currency in 10 years but this never resulted in price drops on Apple products, so why would the recent tiny increase in dollar value warrant a price raise? Why is the exchange rate a one way street?
Anandtech.com recently did a write-up on Intel's SSDs and concluded that the only SSD worth the money were the ones recently released by Intel. I don't know what Apple uses, but it would be worth the time to read the article for yourself.
Extremely disappointing that you have to log out and back in to change the graphics card... yet other laptops are able to change on the fly...
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/14/macbook-pro-requires-logout-to-switch-graphics-modes/
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/14/macbook-pro-requires-logout-to-switch-graphics-modes/
This is JUST me. But I'd rather have the extra space. I don't mind waiting for an extra few seconds to get stuff done. It's just not economical.
Sorry, I'm getting tired (it is already 4:45am).
Hopefully at least your personal income doubled?
If you were going to go to the trouble of getting your power adapter out or put it away to move the laptop, can't you just press logout and then let it go while your moving stuff around?
I guess it just needs to restart its graphical overlay on top of the kernel- understandable, considering.