There are at least a few states with a 10% sales tax but that is about it.
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Apple Announces New MacBook Pros With M2 Pro and M2 Max Chips, Up to 96GB RAM, and More
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It depends on how much multi-core + GPU processing you are doing on a continuous basis and whether you are doing that often enough for it to matter. I feel that this is not a problem for most people’s use and this is nothing like the old Intel machines that would throttle when doing almost anything. You have to really push these to see any slowdown at all.
This has been discussed extensively last summer when the M2 Air came out. check out threads like this… https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ing-is-being-vastly-over-exaggerated.2352165/
But upgading 16 to 32 Ram cost €420. So expensive. Normally it was €220 or 240. I am a basic user, mainly Netflix, streams, websites, emails, whatsapp etc. I am looking to upgrade my 2014 16gb ram Macbook pro Intel this year, which actually runs just fine. Even the original battery still works okish.
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do you perform your job for free?
what *should* be the price of their computers and who should set it - the government? you?
do you understand how commerce works?
Adding local tax to compare prices isn’t really a sound comparison, since Apple have nothing to do with taxes. Pulling the VAT out and complaining that it is still more expensive does make sense, as pointed out by the earlier post, but including VAT in a comparison and trying to compare against some other local tax makes no sense at all.
Also those big discounts are pretty much US-only. Here in Europe M1 Pro 14" still sells for about 2100 euros everywhere even today.
apple has to establish businesses in the country where they operate. they have to pay corporate and payroll taxes there which are typically higher than in the US. they have different costs of compliance for legal, warranty expense (longer statutory warranty in europe than in US). when products are shipped there from the place of manufacture, there are different levels of tariffs.
and last but not least, the prices is driven by whatever the local consumers are willing to pay. apple do not hold exclusivity to some life-critical product. they sell consumers goods - a commodity. this makes them a price-taker, not a price-maker. meaning they don't hold absolute unilateral pricing power.
please, people, when you sell a good across different market, things are not as vanilla as the exchange rate.
That’s a very good point. If the cost of doing business in a country are higher than another then that’ll be factored into the price of the products in that country. Consumer protections don't come for free!
A solid minor upgrade if you have a 5 years old MacBook Pro. Personally I would have preferred that the M1 MacBook Pro get cheaper instead.
Except that they don’t pay the local taxes by using legal loopholes to make sure local branches are at a loss.
What @James Godfrey is missing is that in California sales tax is based on state base + local taxes like in Los Angeles county (not sure of the UK equivalent - the Shire? lol).
I'm in Los Angeles County where the total sales tax is now 10.25%, not 7.25%.
Depreciation is a thing. Expect any computing purchase to trend toward zero value in 3-5 years.
This is tech.
Last October Apple trade in (UK) offered me nothing for my late 2013 16gb 500gb SSD iMac, and instead recommended I take it to a local recycling centre.😆 I passed it onto a family member instead.
Admittedly it was an old machine, but it surely must have some value.
Interesting choice in pricing, as in extreme luxury brand territory. I love apple as much as the next, but these are the highest prices MBPs I recall ever released.
Please explain when a customer walks out a london store with a new iphone bought from a british employee, what taxes owed to the crown should be paid but arent, due to this special loophole.
Leica and Hasselblad costs more in their home countries than in the US. Every german, italian, and british car cost more in Europe than in the US.
Prices are set by the market, not by your personal sense of righteousness or morality. When will people understand this?
Do you know much outrage I have for Supreme charging $200 for a white T-shirt?
None. Because I’m not interested. And when enough people are disinterested, they’ll lower their prices, because they cannot sell at an uneconomic price.
None. Because I’m not interested. And when enough people are disinterested, they’ll lower their prices, because they cannot sell at an uneconomic price.
There are higher sales tax rates in the U.S. than 7.25% as there can also be additional sales tax at local/city levels. U.S. sales tax is not necessarily just at the state level.
Regardless, I understand VAT can be higher than U.S. sales tax but my point was that what governments charge their citizens in VAT or sales tax is not Apple's doing and people shouldn't be blaming Apple for that portion of the price/cost. Apple is only responsible for (and benefits from) the pre-VAT and pre-sales tax price and that's what people should be comparing when talking about APPLE pricing.
Maybe I don't just want to trade in my Mac Studio Max. I guess I'll keep it unless I find a buyer personally.
The Apple ecosystem-induced dependencies increasingly constitute a digital communication device monopoly.
Monopoly: People keep using that word. I do not think it means what they think it means.
they ensured it would have no value by making the monitor incapable of accepting input. otherwise I would just buy a mini to stick under it..