I have an old MBP that can’t run the latest Xcode or MacOS. What would you suggest? One of these M2 MBP or an M2 MacBook Air? Some Adobe Creative Cloud apps too.
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Apple Announces New MacBook Pros With M2 Pro and M2 Max Chips, Up to 96GB RAM, and More
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couple of hundreds? try again, more like 400. that deal was offered by every major retailers, bestbuy, amazon, etc, if you still went and bought from apple i have a bridge to sell you. 🤣
and what does that translate to, oh right, 20% at best with multi tasking, you can pep talk all you want, at the end of the day, your opinion does not reflect reality.
ha, i'm gonna set myself a reminder and hit you up couple of years from now, consider the very fact that wifi A/C is still very much functional, and preferred due to better wall penetration, and gigabyte internet is still a very niche market for the foreseeable future, i'm definitely not in the minority when i say these things you are propping up are in fact, very incremental.
and one more thing, this thing will not sell like the m1 pro because everyone and their grandma knows the real upgrade is coming next year with m3 with a 3nm die shrink. apple released this incremental upgrade to keep their portfolio leveled.
Same with the 16 inch. I was nervous the M2 Pro was gonna be a crazy upgrade and I was gonna regret the purchase. But nah, it’s a small upgrade. I’m happy I didn’t wait
Right? WTF, a Pro MBP M2 for a gazillion beans and we don't even get a couple of colors like the cool kids? It's literally just as easy to make a midnight MBP as it is a MBA. You know for a fact that SJ would've made a few colors for the "pros".
Big time stale.
I wasn't expecting much more.
But 20% processor and 30% GPU increases ain't nuthin' though...
That said, I'm not upgrading an M1 MacBook Pro Max with this; I'm upgrading my high-end MBP 15" from 2015, so it's a welcome upgrade!
Features I can benefit from? Well, I'm going to have this for 5-7 years, so who knows what I'll be taking advantage of in the future...?
On the other hand...
My 15" 'touchbar' macbook pro cost me £3149 in 2016. It came with 16GB RAM, a Radeon 'Pro' 460 graphics & 1TB ssd, and a butterfly keyboard (!)
That 14" M2 Max at £3,349 looks pretty tempting. Expensive yes. But not crazy imo
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I paid basically the same for my 14” M1 Pro as I did for my 2011 15” pro in actual dollar amounts.
My 14” pro runs windows arm64 in parallels better than most of the enterprise machines we get at work. I’m not joking. Desktop or notebook. Everything works. Sleep works properly.
It runs windows in parallels much better than my intel MacBook machines ever did natively.
So say 25% performance improvement give or take, and 8% inflation-- a quick calculation says these laptops just got about 35% cheaper before even accounting for the HDMI, WiFi, increased battery life and other features.
The level of cynicism in these threads is unbelievable. I wouldn't have expected that they'd be able to deliver that much of a performance boost all else equal-- if it holds up under broader testing that's pretty remarkable.
I'm very interested in this issue. I have a 2016 15" MBP and use Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop a lot, which does task my current system. I've been thinking about the new/predicted 15" MBA as a way to avoid the bulk of the latest MBP models, but will I basically get the same level of performance as my current machine if I go with a new MBA? That would be super disappointing if so. Should I avoid the MBA line if I need a high level of performance?
There are certain Wolfram Mathematica operations that can be quite memory hungry and would benefit from a large amount of RAM. Stephen Wolfram should definitely be packing one of these RAM-heavy M2 MBPs. I'm guessing that particle physics simulations can be real pigs, too.
My 2019 MBP 16" i7 is 20% faster than my MBA M1 16GB on slow Handbrake encodings via software. Advice: don't buy a MBA (even the upcoming 15") if you want much faster multi-core performance than a 2019 Intel MBP 16". The M1/M2 on the MBA has only 4 CPU performance cores and no active cooling.
I agree.
This was my fear: That I'd passed up on some of those discounts on the M1 MBP 16" and now this new model was going to cost me significantly more with inflation (obviously, I paid more than if I'd taken some of those deals).
I think I paid the same as when I was pricing out the M1 MBP Max, but I've got more cores than I would have with a 25%-ish improvement (although, those cores might literally be that percent improvement, so maybe I shouldn't word it that way).
Yeah.. it would be a shame to spend all that money just to fall short on RAM.
For all those saying this is not a good update, and that it's more of an incremental update...at least it's an update!
Would you rather us still be with Intel and only get updates once every few years? For a lot of people, this update will serve them just fine if they are updating from anything but an M1 Max.
From those updating from the M1 Max, they will want to wait till the M3 Max. It was like this with most prior updates.
Be happy we are getting something and Apple is not making their products stale by only releasing them once every few years.
Would you rather us still be with Intel and only get updates once every few years? For a lot of people, this update will serve them just fine if they are updating from anything but an M1 Max.
From those updating from the M1 Max, they will want to wait till the M3 Max. It was like this with most prior updates.
Be happy we are getting something and Apple is not making their products stale by only releasing them once every few years.
Let us know how the unwrap goes?
I prefer a hard case, so I lose that effect except for the keyboard/topcase.
Yeah I feel your pain bro!
Lol. Yeah. But this upgrade is for older laptop users that missed out on the M1 Pro MBPs or M1 Max models. Or those still waiting for business upgrade eligibility. Much better performance from Intel when consider release to releases.
Yeah the pricing is up there. Still you’d need a gaming laptop or one with q dedicated video card to compete with M2 Pro/Max.
What you fail to look at is:
Applications and comfort ability in using them as well as workflow in such a computing environment.
If it saves someone 2 mins doing mundane tasks several 10’s/100’s of times a days that’s over an hour vs a computing platform just to save initial $200 give or take. It’s about the work being done.
Thanks @fbr$. That sounds like good advice. I’ll keep that in mind when making my next MBP purchase.
Good to see the new laptops. Would have liked to see a new colour on MacBook Pro.