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Apple Announces New MacBook Pros With M2 Pro and M2 Max Chips, Up to 96GB RAM, and More

tYNS said:
Who can afford this crap. They literally brought the production down to a single in-house chip and it costs more than ever.. this is all about profit profit profit. The SoC should be making things more affordable. What is wrong with this company. They pretend like they are the fastest machines in the universe. The GPU is still an internal GPU only useable on MacOS. This machine is not business class as it can't run Windows anymore. They are out to lunch. There is goign to be a day people get tired of logic and final cut and what will apple be doing then.
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The thing that annoys me most is why are they still lock the screen size behind insane specs and pricing. Just put the 13" insides with a 16" screen.
 
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MrSegundus said:
I'm seriously just thinking about ditching Apple entirely because of their ridiculous prices. They charge more and more every year and offer very little in return. For example, I can't believe I paid $800 for an Apple Watch Ultra that should've had the basic features like the extended battery life in the Series 8 watches. But of course, no one would've purchased the Ultra then. That's how they get you. For those who are wondering, yes, I regret buying the Ultra. The extra battery life isn't worth the extra $400.
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Instead of just making simplistic skews, apple is now built on the multi-skew-niverse. The psychology is driven by the, "here is the price, but the one you really want is....", marketing scheme. It wasn't that bad in the 2000's where you literally had a grid of products to choose from.. the only detrimental option was the cpu you wanted out of the gate. You could typically upgrade the storage and memory in time.. The entire culture has changed now and I think for the worst. You are literally guided to buy the most expensive option out of the gate in fear that you may not be happy with the product or the inability to upgrade down the road. That mentality of "the option to upgrade is always there" was a selling point in and of itself, in my opinion.
 
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Upgrading from 32 to 96 GB RAM is 920€, upgrading from 16 to 32 GB is 460€. That memory loses a lot of value when bought in bulk 😂
 
Skoua said:
I get that but I don't think prices should be based on exchange rates. People buying stuff in a country care about price differences in their country. All I see is that price doubled while the product is roughly the same. Yes it got improved in many ways but at the end of the day, it's still a computer people are going to use to get some job done.

In 2008, someone who wanted to started working with a (big) MBP could get started with roughly a month worth of french minimum wage, now it's almost two.

It's Apple we're talking about, they make huge margins, have gazillions dollars on the side and Macs are not their main source of revenue anymore, by far. They could try to flatten the price a bit for countries outside of US. My 2 cents.

And I must add that since I'm an iOS developer, buying a decent MBP, iPhone and iPad are mandatory for me. So when Apple increases price by 20%, I just lose money with no upsides.
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I understand that, but Apple is an American company and operates in USD. Unless we have a single global currency we will always have this issue.
 
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SO glad I got a 16” M1 last year when they were on offer on Amazon.
The price hikes are getting ridiculous in the UK/EU, but you could see it coming after the the same thing happened with the new iPhones, iPads and iPad Pros.

edit: WOW, just saw the existing iMacs have had an increase as well, without being updated. 🤦
 
bobcomer said:
Wowsers, expensive if you want a decent amount of RAM and ssd! And it appears they still wont take a Mac Studio as a trade in. I actually might have pulled the trigger on a 14" if I had some trade in value.
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Dude, just sell it on ebay. Do a backup to cloud, reset to factory (takes just a few minutes), collect whatever you got (box and such) and list it there. The lowest price listed for a bottom of the line Mac Studio is about $1750. If you want to sell it immediately, list yours a little bit below that. It will sell in a couple days. Easy peasy.
 
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dogstar said:
Dude, just sell it on ebay. Do a backup to cloud, reset to factory (takes just a few minutes), collect whatever you got (box and such) and list it there. The lowest price listed for a bottom of the line Mac Studio is about $1750. If you want to sell it immediately, list yours a little bit below that. It will sell in a couple days. Easy peasy.
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That's a thought, but I don't really like selling my old hardware, gotta pack it up and ship it and then whoever buys it might return it for whatever... :(

Mine's a Studio Max with 64G RAM, and 1TB SSD...
 
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NightFox said:
You need to make the comparison using UK costs without VAT, as US prices don't include sales tax. Therefore it's £2249 = $2759
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Exactly. Although, I have family in Oregon so I buy all my stuff there on layover (no sales tax). 😉

As a UK resident, we can thank Brexit and Tory fiscal policy for tanking the pound (Trussonomics anyone?). That, and global inflation, are hardly Apple's fault. But we want simple answers to complex problems I guess.

And yes, the prices in Sterling are eye-watering. I bought my iPhone 14 Pro in the UK instead of the US to get the sim card tray and it was painful to pay the extra several hundred dollars. C'est la vie.
 
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I'm going to need to buy a new laptop this coming year, to replace my 2018 MacBook Pro. I need the 16". I've started doing some new kind of development work that's pushed my memory requirements way up. I'm debating getting 64GB. The price of that has me quite depressed. I'm over $4000 US before tax and Apple Care.

I might just buy a cheaper machine and stick to Windows/wsl for development. I like Linux much better than BSD anyway.
 
Seems like a pretty reasonable spec bump. Nice to see that they are still able to eek out some battery life improvements.

Nothing to make me regret my M1 Pro 14" MBP purchase but that is to be expected.

I do hope at some point in the future, apple will consider improving their external display support. It is the only area where Apple laptops took a noticeable step back compared to the Intel machines. Having native support for 4 external displays (at 4K res) should not require the highest end chip config. Hoping this isn't an arbitrary marketing decision.
 
Watch Rene Ritchie shilling for Apple when Max Tech will do his testing with the M2 Max 14" MacBook Pro. And MacRumors will defend the thermal throttling on the M2 Max 14" MBP that it is being used wrong.
 
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