Well actually i just searched
Steve Jobs ... one in china ... looks like a spammer account
s jobs
Steven Jobs
Well no account for steve ... so it would appear that even he is not using it ...
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Well actually i just searched
Steve Jobs ... one in china ... looks like a spammer account
s jobs
Steven Jobs
Well no account for steve ... so it would appear that even he is not using it ...
Well you're in luck: Ping takes the best parts about Myspace, facebook, and the amazon comments section, throws them all away, and replaces it with spam and celebrities going on saying "HI THERe INTERWEBS, MY ManAGEr saID COMPUTERS ARE IN THis YEAR SO BUy MY AlbuM SO I CAN AFFORD MORE GUATeMALAN CHILD-slAVES!"
Give it a chance
A bit disappointed at all the negativity surrounding Ping as of late. Sure, it's not as polished or even as easy-to-use as I expected from a company like Apple, but seeing as this is their first proper effort with social networking (and they've thrown themselves in at the deep end really), I don't think they've made too bad a start!
Give it time and I'm sure they'll iron out the kinks. I'm sure plenty of Apple developers are keen on the social networking scene and will be keen to make improvements.
Even if you don't like social networking, no-one's forcing you to join! To be honest though, as people have already said, Facebook is supposed to be about life in general, whereas Ping is just about music (which perhaps explains the decision not to include the ability to have a status). It won't have annoying app requests or pokes or whatever. If you don't like Facebook, that doesn't necessarily mean you don't like social networking, and Ping is at least trying to stand-out from all the other services out there.
As for iTunes itself though, I feel like it could do with an overhaul. The program has a huge footprint and runs sluggishsly, even on high-end machines. The interface also feels a little bit dated for Apple; not sure if that's just me!
A bit disappointed at all the negativity surrounding Ping as of late. Sure, it's not as polished or even as easy-to-use as I expected from a company like Apple, but seeing as this is their first proper effort with social networking (and they've thrown themselves in at the deep end really), I don't think they've made too bad a start!
Give it time and I'm sure they'll iron out the kinks. I'm sure plenty of Apple developers are keen on the social networking scene and will be keen to make improvements.Even if you don't like social networking, no-one's forcing you to join!
To be honest though, as people have already said, Facebook is supposed to be about life in general, whereas Ping is just about music (which perhaps explains the decision not to include the ability to have a status). It won't have annoying app requests or pokes or whatever. If you don't like Facebook, that doesn't necessarily mean you don't like social networking, and Ping is at least trying to stand-out from all the other services out there.As for iTunes itself though, I feel like it could do with an overhaul. The program has a huge footprint and runs sluggishsly, even on high-end machines. The interface also feels a little bit dated for Apple; not sure if that's just me!
Understandable. I'm waiting for Menudo, Vanilla Ice, and Peter Frampton to get in on this. What are you guys waiting for!!!?
Its just a freaking marketing gimmick. Artists push there wares, your not gonna be chatting with these people all they care about is selling songs. People think Bono is gonna start sending them Happy Birthday messages lol. Give me a break.
I really hope there is nobody dumb enough to believe that. I am pretty sure Apple did a great job explaining why you should follow your favorite artists: so you can check out what they are working on/what's next, what upcoming concerts are happening, and what new music/videos have been posted to iTunes.
None of those sound like a marketing gimmick, it sounds like a great idea for people who like music. But of course you are probably right and some people might think it is for something else. Oh wait one of those people is you!
It's not about lack of polish or ease-of-use. It's simply a recent example at Apple of strategic user-hostility serving the industry and Apple foremost and the user later.
It's painfully obvious that they've spent far too much time thinking about sales, and not enough time on how to surprise and delight actual music listeners (which would actually lead to higher sales)
As someone on another forum said so well, this is the kind of stuff we Apple users pay Apple extra money to avoid.
At the end of the day Apple is running a business to become the leader, not trying to be your buddy. Much of this forum needs to keep that in mind.
And for the record, it's obvious that most people don't care about "good" music anymore, all they care about is texting and boasting over the internet how great their lives are.
Let's see how that works out long-term. Of course Apple is now the Microsoft of the music store business - so you may have a point.
I don't think so. At least I hope you're wrong.
No, I'm not wrong, it's obvious to anyone who's eyes are open. Kids and adults (sadly, even the adults) are seen day to day with their heads buried in the portable device texting. They text when drive, they text in class, they text to the person standing right next to them, it's ridiculous. The music industry has gone way down and if you haven't realized that then you've been under a rock for the last few years. So much crap qualifies for an award now. They give a Grammy to anyone that can sell records. The newer generations couldn't care less if someone can sing well, they don't care if the music is good quality as long as they can groove to it.
Case in point, Apple uses Lady Gaga to demo PING. Now, she sings okay but there's nothing extraordinary about her. Instead, they brought Coldplay on stage to perform instead of using them to demo PING, why? Because what sells is what's "popular", not what's good anymore.
ipod was a failure until they added Windows support. like i was going to buy a MP3 player that needed an overpriced computer just to use it and that only 5% or so of computer users used that model of computer
as soon as Apple added Windows support the ipod took off
all that happens on twitter
on ping the only links are to buy something on itunes
music videos are free on youtube and vevo, why would i buy them on itunes?
I never said that other social networks don't do the same thing, but if you haven't noticed there is tons of reptitive ideas going on in the social networking world. Twitter wasn't a new idea, neither was Facebook, or really nearly every social networking site.
There is no doubt that Apple has some work to do with Ping, but just because it sounds useless to you or others doesn't mean there are tons who will eat it up. Especially over time as it becomes more useful.
I don't care for Facebook and have some pretty negative opinions about it, but I can still recognize that it's popular, even if I think it's a waste of time.
I have a different, more optimistic, view on this. To me it's more a sign of the growing long tail.
Mainstream music events and TOP-whatever lists simply don't represent the musical taste of a large part of the population anymore. They may have, decades ago, and It'd be depressing to judge society's taste by way of looking at those lists today, but I don't think you should do that. The reason why so much crap qualifies for an award now, is that, even "hits" don't sell in really huge quantities anymore. Instead, there's a wide range of relatively obscure artists who sell music in small volumes. But I truly believe that it is easier than ever nowadays for them to find their audience, if they are good. There's simply fewer artists that people can really agree on, and naturally, the kind of music that does achieve mainstream success will often have been purposefully produced with the lowest common denominator in mind. That's why you now have Lady Gaga playing at an Apple event. She's an artist that comparatively many people can agree on - but still, I'd expect, not actually a lot of (adult) music listeners. By the way, I hope that video clip made S.Jobs cringe and he just didn't show it.
But people have enormously varying tastes of music nowadays, and I think that's a positive thing. There's also a lot of money to be made despite this diversity because of the absolute ease of distribution in the digital world.
And, for example, who would have thought back in 2005, when Arcade Fire's "Funeral" was released and celebrated by a still relatively small indie community, that they'd be an absolute mainstream success one day. Isn't that a good sign?
It will be, the coupe de grace will be released this Christmas season with iTunes 10.1, The Revenge of Steve.