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Not in Indonesia, its the phone to have.
Not Me though, 4S as soon as its available in Sg.
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Apple Announces Over One Million iPhone 4S Pre-Orders in First 24 Hours
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Not in Indonesia, its the phone to have.
Not Me though, 4S as soon as its available in Sg.
As disappointed I am with no re-design most people I know were waiting for the update to get there new iPhone, no matter what it was.
Crazy news, Apple keeps winning
Crazy news, Apple keeps winning
Exactly. I'm sure a manufacturer could build a phone with specs that rival a laptop computer but if it's hard to use, unwieldy, or doesn't integrate naturally into their lives, than it's really not going to sell. People want things that are intuitive, easy to use, and makes life easier for them. Basically, the phone (hardware)disappears and they are interacting with their media, the camera, or playing a game. Specs don't do that. Focusing on the specs just reinforces the idea that you are interacting with the phone.
Yes, the Prime and the Galaxy II 'absolutely destroy" the iPhone 4s in the better 'specs' department. But the os can be fiddly, unreliable, and people have to work to integrate their media. And then of course, there is the FUD out their about virii and trojan horses infecting Android phones. But most of all, people haven't been effectively shown how these phones can be integrated into their lives seamlessly.
I dunno. I think the Nexus one is Google's way of trying to ply a phone that is a hit with consumers. Seems rather naive to create a phone *as a suggestion* to other vendors on how to create a phone. A fool's errand really. If this is part of their strategy, it a new strategy, since as you mentioned their last iteration was *behind* in terms of specs.
I think this is wrong. It's all about the user experience, not carrier support. So many Android experiences are buggy and laggy, -just not very good. Nailing the user experience like Apple does shows you that that is what is important, and at the end of the day, because of this, the carriers need Apple, -not the other way around. Sprint's CEO admitted this when they 'bet the farm' on the iPhone 4S. But this analysis follows the basic assumption that the manufacturer is going to deploy via *at least one* of the carriers. In that sense, yes, you need carrier support, but that minimum level is sort of a given.
I do agree on what you said about Verizon 'tolerating' the iPhone. You just know that it ruffles their feathers that they can't plaster it with all of their bloatware...
if people do not think steve death had one iota to do with this than we truly do have kool-aide drinker's because lets be frank it's nothing grad about this phone
I was one of the 1 million pre-orders. I'm coming back to iPhone after switching from the 3G to a DroidX on Verizons Network.
I had the iPhone 3G on At&t with terrible network service. At&t recognized the problem and sent me a voucher for a free cell station for my home, but never had them in stock so I could actually get a hold of one. When my contract was up, the 3Gs was at At&t but I wasn't going to mess with the service. I switched my wife and I to DroidX's on Verizon's network and was mostly satisfied.
Android is pretty decent, but the lack of control over applications is worrisome. My children would be playing games targeted to their age group (5 & 7) and then see smutty ads targeted for adults - some that even played video if you clicked on them. Many of the apps are terribly buggy - which forces me to choose more mainstream apps. Truth be told, I would find an iPhone app on iTunes store and use its equivalent on the Android Market place. For some strange reason I can trust an app a little more if it passed Apple's inspection first.
Anyway, I skipped the iPhone 4 when it came to Verizon believing the next phone would be right around the corner. Verizon made me eligable for a new phone last month, so here I am. My white 32GB 4s is preordered for the 14th!
I had the iPhone 3G on At&t with terrible network service. At&t recognized the problem and sent me a voucher for a free cell station for my home, but never had them in stock so I could actually get a hold of one. When my contract was up, the 3Gs was at At&t but I wasn't going to mess with the service. I switched my wife and I to DroidX's on Verizon's network and was mostly satisfied.
Android is pretty decent, but the lack of control over applications is worrisome. My children would be playing games targeted to their age group (5 & 7) and then see smutty ads targeted for adults - some that even played video if you clicked on them. Many of the apps are terribly buggy - which forces me to choose more mainstream apps. Truth be told, I would find an iPhone app on iTunes store and use its equivalent on the Android Market place. For some strange reason I can trust an app a little more if it passed Apple's inspection first.
Anyway, I skipped the iPhone 4 when it came to Verizon believing the next phone would be right around the corner. Verizon made me eligable for a new phone last month, so here I am. My white 32GB 4s is preordered for the 14th!
Yeah, right, because let's face it' there are so many people out there who are happy to throw hundreds of dollars away for something they don't really want, just out of respect.
Seriously, it might have helped tip a proportion of buyers who were wavering on the decision whether to buy or not, but more than likely they'd have bought anyway.
In the penguin 4 days and CPU's running at half the ghz of intel p4 would kill intel in performance. Both ran x86 but the architecture was different.
There is a lot more to performance than a higher ghz number on paper. Even now I core CPU's are so much faster than a p4 and the ghz hasn't increased in years
I think that's a bad assumption to a certain extent. Carriers really have a ton of power in selling phones if they get behind a platform. Android earlier didn't have much success until Verizon put all their mighty marketing prowess behind the Droid ad campaign, and the reason Androids are selling so well is first and foremost, because they are available everywhere.
You walk into a phone store, and Androids are everywhere. Plus store clerks, for whatever reason, I've found to be much more favourable toward Android phones than others, both in my experience and according to anecdotal reports I've read.
Apple is lucky that they had an extremely strong brand power and the fact iPhone was such a unique product. Thus when it first appeared that they could leave the imprint on the consumers without having to giving into all the carrier request. However others aren't so lucky.
Just look at Windows Phone 7. It's actually a pretty decent attempt from Microsoft and arguably a better user experience than Android but so far it completely failed to get traction in the market. Unlike Apple, people don't go out of their way to buy Samsung and HTC Windows Phones, so Microsoft needed a lot of support from carriers. But all the clerks I've encountered actively dissuaded me from buying WP7 phones and tried to sell me Androids.
Steve is looking down with a huge grin on his face.
Didn't you hear? Steve Jobs no longer exists. If you're going to apply some sort of silly religious sentiment to his death, it would be more appropriate to be his own (Buddhism) not Christianity.
There is nothing strange and nothing little about this 'trust' issue! Apple exasperates software developers because it puts their products through the mill but for us, users, the benefits are very tangible. And Apple gets to keep us as customers. Truth be known, the screen size (and to a lesser extent the RAM) are the only things that I regret not having on my new 32GB white 4S pre-order. For anyone with kids, this upgrade is worth having just for the upgraded camera if it turns out to be as good as Apple touts the 4S to be, in your pocket at all times and specked to be as good (even nearly as good) as most point and shoot cameras, not to mention full HD video.
Yes, more carriers and whatnot, but considering no Android model has even approached these numbers while being available on even more carriers than the iPhone 4S (including tiny companies like Cricket and MetroPCS), this is very impressive.
Yes that's it. You are smarter than everyone else. Whatever makes you feel better.
The only thing that matters is it needs to destroy in sales. Whether that is iPhone sales or other Android, Win7mobile makes no difference, only the sales.
My wife has had two Android models recently (the Samsung Epic 4G--a Galaxy phone--and now has the Nexus S). She has "accidently" downloaded viruses from the Android app store on each (we thought it might be the phones at first, but after returning each twice, we learned it was the apps). With her Galaxy phone, she even had her Gmail account hacked by downloading an app!
I don't think it's FUD to say there are viruses on the Android store. If anecdotal evidence isn't enough, there are studies available online too.
I am. When there is a better platform out there now - WP7 and the iSheeple just go along with the toy OS forever. It's clearly brainwashing.
The "absolutely Destroys" comment was about this very thing. The Spec numbers really don't matter. The iphone 4 camera had lesser megapixel specs but most agreed that its abilities were much better than any other phone's camera.
At least. I THINK that's what you are arguing. I kind of got lost with the "in the penguin 4 part.' I have no idea what that means.
As an IT professional I am in no way threatened by Apple. I TRIED to embrace Apple in the enterprise but it's such a mess just to get lion server to sync properly with active directory kerberos. The problem? Who knows. The solution? Baked into 10.7.2, apparently. What's wrong with that? This stupid 10.7.2 release for server is also tied to the consumer/workstation release which is tied to the iOS and iCloud release.
Yes. My OS X clients can't use a single set of credentials for accessing their AFP hosted file shares because of iCloud. Ridiculous.
10.6 works properly. 10.7 just broke everything. So now I have the choice of ditching OS X server all together and going with certify + extremeZIP or sticking it out.
Sorry to go off topic but I just though this was a very interesting idea. My workload has significantly increased with the induction of macs into the workspace.