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Apple Announces Over One Million iPhone 4S Pre-Orders in First 24 Hours

Oh yeah a no iPhone 5 will be a failure.....:D

I wonder where are all those people now? These whiners never learn....:rolleyes:
 
All I know is next year unless Apple makes an 8" screen, with quad core processors, and two LTE chips, the iPhone5 is going to fail.
 
guch20 said:
Your math is off, but let's just assume you're right for the sake of argument.

Of those 150 million US Android users, how many bought their Android phone because they couldn't afford an iPhone/are with a carrier that didn't offer the iPhone/bought the cheapest smartphone they could find? You can't count any of those as "Android is more popular" people, since they didn't do it out of loyalty or love for Android.

Also, just for the sake of arguement, let's say there are 150 different Android models out there (there are, in fact, far more than that, but let's keep the math easy). That would mean each Android model sold 1 million handsets over its entire lifespan. And iPhone 4S sold 1 million in one day. So which is truly the most popular?
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You guys know there are not anything like 150 million Android users in the US...I was more responding to the original guy who took 50% of an old total population figure and applied a very dubious market share figure to it.
 
Remember more carriers around the world have been brought online plus Verizon and now Sprint.

The numbers are impressive nonetheless but remember that it appeals to a larger audience which will help with any sales numbers.

Still gives Apple the bank roll they need to develop all these cool products and keep customer service high!


Cant wait to get mine Friday!
 
iPhone 4S Responsiveness

voonyx said:
Because the Nexus Prime DESTROYSSS!! the iPhone in specs!!
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I'm willing to bet that the user interface on the iPhone 4S will be much more responsive than the one on the Nexus Prime, to me it's responsiveness of the phone (OS and Hardware) that is the true measure of speed. When measured in terms of responsiveness, the existing iPhone 4 already wins the spec wars and the 4S will be twice as fast in terms of CPU speed, with a 7X graphics performance boost, a 2X cellular data transfer speed bump, and probably a better camera than the Prime. In terms of performance, this is actually the biggest boost that any new iPhone model has ever offered.

I have heard that they are developing a revolutionary new backpack style external battery for the Nexus Prime, wow that will be really cool!
 
The 3GS was a vast improvement over the 3G, but because they shared the casing, they used the 3G moniker.

Same with the iPhone4 & iPhone4S -- they look the same but internals couldn't be more different.

The iPhone5 will be introduced before iOS6 is released, maybe at WWDC 2012 where the iPhone5 will be available for sale immediately and iOS6 introduced in developer beta.
 
vikingdave said:
I'm willing to bet that the user interface on the iPhone 4S will be much more responsive than the one on the Nexus Prime, to me it's responsiveness of the phone (OS and Hardware) that is the true measure of speed. When measured in terms of responsiveness, the existing iPhone 4 already wins the spec wars and the 4S will be twice as fast in terms of CPU speed, with a 7X graphics performance boost, a 2X cellular data transfer speed bump, and probably a better camera than the Prime. In terms of performance, this is actually the biggest boost that any new iPhone model has ever offered.

I have heard that they are developing a revolutionary new backpack style external battery for the Nexus Prime, wow that will be really cool!
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Oh I have no doubt about it. I've yet to come across an Android phone without noticeable lag. That's not to say the iPhone can't or doesn't have lag, but it's far far more noticeable on the android phones. I mean the Bionic for example was delayed for 8 months, and its a buggy horrible mess. I bought it and returned it a few days later. I'm waiting on the Prime to see what it offers. Only reason I choose Android over iOS is simply because I like making custom ROMs and themes and just tinkering. But if I was looking purely for stability and reliability, it would be iOS hands down.

There are people who are in denial about this, and just talk about specs as if that means anything, but the proof is in the pudding.
 
Celf said:
As did a lot, a whole lot, of people on this forum....only a few days ago!! ;) This forum was almost like Statler and Waldorf...but then the other way round, from "boooo" to "bravo"
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Many of the folks who declared they were switching to the Samsung Galaxy S2 or Nexus Prime in response to the thread on the iPhone 4S announcement were the same people posting to the thread on the preorder server issues at 2am in the morning on October 7th.

It's simple.... people place very high expectations on Apple (like expecting them to pull of LTE with the current generation of chips while maintaining or increasing battery life). So when Apple does not do a miracle, they get upset. But in the end, nobody else has pulled off the the miracle either.

Also, many folks wanted a new form factor for vanity. How else could they show off to their friends that they had the new iPhone? How else would they be able to draw attention to themselves simply by pulling out their new iPhone in public? With the iPhone 4S, nobody is going to know you have the new model just by glancing at your phone. But in the end, these same people don't want to be caught having the old iPhone just in case somebody asks which iPhone they have -- so they buy the new one.

So while lots of folks complained about the iPhone 4S, they still bought it after they reset their expectations.
 
SiPat said:
The 3GS was a vast improvement over the 3G, but because they shared the casing, they used the 3G moniker.

Same with the iPhone4 & iPhone4S -- they look the same but internals couldn't be more different.

The iPhone5 will be introduced before iOS6 is released, maybe at WWDC 2012 where the iPhone5 will be available for sale immediately and iOS6 introduced in developer beta.
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It seems to be a norm one that Apple will redesign the iPhone every 2 generations. That's great news because they will vastly improve the phone at every second revision. I for one will only buy an iPhone 5S so they can iron out out the issues they will encounter with the 5.

One thing is certain, the whiners will keep predicting the failure to look stupid
later on.
 
voonyx said:
The Prime is going to be another in the long list of "iPhone killers" that the Android fans talk up for about a week until the next one comes out. When the Prime has subpar sales numbers, ...
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To be fair the Nexus series isn't really just a regular Android phone. It's Google's way of saying "Here's the reference development phone, and this is the standard version of Android on hardware that we think should be about the standard." So it's never just about the sales figure.

Still Nexus is an interesting business case study because Google took three entirely different approaches:

The first Nexus One was indeed a standard setting device that remains decent even to this day with 1Ghz CPU and a 512MB RAM. However after all the chest thumping its sales bombed as it sold only a little above 100,000 in 2 months, if I remember correctly. Google had the grand vision of selling the phone directly without going through carriers but they gave up and admitted it was a mistake.

The second Nexus, the Nexus S was nothing but a rebranded Samsung Galaxy S with little changes and even downgraded in some aspects from the Galaxy S. In terms of specs, it was actually behind the phones that started to appear at the end of 2010 and many Android enthusiasts were disappointed. However the phone sold a lot better than the Nexus One as it was much more prevalent in retails.

So now Google had learnt. Specs is important and online spec wars is nice to have, but at the end it's all about carrier support. So this time, they are hoping to get some real support from Verizon while making a new spec leader and a standard phone. Thus it is a combination of the Nexus One and Nexus S.

Another interesting point here is Verizon is the carrier of choice. Verizon doesn't state this but as the carrier who likes to have most control over their phones, they are probably not very happy about iPhone even though they tolerate it as far as they don't lose customers to other carriers. Even though the Nexus is a phone that's outside the carrier's control, they are trying to encourage Android sales, especially with the LTE plan money in line which Apple said "screw it."
 
fertilized-egg said:
To be fair the Nexus series isn't really just a regular Android phone. It's Google's way of saying "Here's the reference development phone, and this is the standard version of Android on hardware that we think should be about the standard." So it's never just about the sales figure.

Still Nexus is an interesting business case study because Google took three entirely different approaches:

The first Nexus One was indeed a standard setting device that remains decent even to this day with 1Ghz CPU and a 512MB RAM. However after all the chest thumping its sales bombed as it sold only a little above 100,000 in 2 months, if I remember correctly. Google had the grand vision of selling the phone directly without going through carriers but they gave up and admitted it was a mistake.

The second Nexus, the Nexus S was nothing but a rebranded Samsung Galaxy S with little changes and even downgraded in some aspects from the Galaxy S. In terms of specs, it was actually behind the phones that started to appear at the end of 2010 and many Android enthusiasts were disappointed. However the phone sold a lot better than the Nexus One as it was much more prevalent in retails.

So now Google had learnt. Specs is important and online spec wars is nice to have, but at the end it's all about carrier support. So this time, they are hoping to get some real support from Verizon while making a new spec leader and a standard phone. Thus it is a combination of the Nexus One and Nexus S.

Another interesting point here is Verizon is the carrier of choice. Verizon doesn't state this but as the carrier who likes to have most control over their phones, they are probably not very happy about iPhone even though they tolerate it as far as they don't lose customers to other carriers. Even though the Nexus is a phone that's outside the carrier's control, they are trying to encourage Android sales, especially with the LTE plan money in line which Apple said "screw it."
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Good points all around.
 
A million sold in 24 hours equals about a billion in gross revenue, telco subsidies included. This is a monster hit and yes, I was part of it on Friday.

I noticed that the MS negative ad machine was running over the weekend, slamming Tim Cook for being "dull". Hey, if he had been exuberant he would have been criticized for being wacky, but then Ballmer would know all about that (developers, developers...) Tim did a good job in delivering the message, handing off to Scott and Phil and not coming across as someone trying to be like Steve. He didn't throw chairs or do the monkey dance, so the MS machine obviously can't understand great products selling themselves and customers actually wanting them.
 
stevensr123 said:
I don't know why people are so surprised, I will say it again, many factors have made this happen unlike other releases:

1: 17 months since the last one came out, that is a massive wait, people are not eligible for early upgrades/upgrades, many people's contracts have probably expired etc.

2: new countries are getting the phone on the 1st day, unlike previous times, wasn't the iPhone 4 only released the USA the 1st month or something? The countries such as the uk, australia etc were able to pre-order/buy them?

3: Many people have been waiting for years on just a 3g/3gs, new features have come, many people will not want to wait about 16 months for the 5 to come out, so they are only now jumping ship.


This iPhone will be successful, no doubt about it, But i reckon the average joe who has an iPhone 4, and doesn't even know the difference in terms of performance, will not get the latest one.

I mean, 90% of people probably don't even think the phone is different.
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How dare you speak with logic.......
 
SiPat said:
The 3GS was a vast improvement over the 3G, but because they shared the casing, they used the 3G moniker.

Same with the iPhone4 & iPhone4S -- they look the same but internals couldn't be more different.

The iPhone5 will be introduced before iOS6 is released, maybe at WWDC 2012 where the iPhone5 will be available for sale immediately and iOS6 introduced in developer beta.
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+1

but...

My guess is that Apple will stick with the Fall release (maybe September rather than October once iCloud is up and running). I also think the iPad will move a bit further away from Christmas

So my guess at the 2012 timetable would be:

May: iPad3
June: new Macs
July: iOS/WWDC
September:iPhone5
 
gillybean said:
One million preorders, but that's across the entire world. Let's say half of them were USA, so that leaves 500,000.

On the other hand I read somewhere that Android has like 50% of the US market now, so that's 300 million people x (1/2) = 150 million.

That makes Android 300x more popular than the iPhone 4S. (150 million / 500k = 300).
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Android is not a phone. It's an OS. I believe iOS still outsells Android (maybe... probably shouldn't quote me on that). A better comparison is Apple's total phone sales (either one model or all models) to HP phone sales, or Samsung, or.... I imagine the numbers are a quite a bit closer than what you posted.
 
davedf said:
May: iPad3
June: new Macs
July: iOS/WWDC
September:iPhone5
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With so many internals similar for the iPad and iPhone -- many coming from the same supplier -- they have to space them out as far apart as possible to make sure production meets demand.
 
stevensr123 said:
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This iPhone will be successful, no doubt about it, But i reckon the average joe who has an iPhone 4, and doesn't even know the difference in terms of performance, will not get the latest one.
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Over a million iPhones 4s have already been spoken for. Does it really matter which prior model those buyers have?
 
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