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Apple Announces Over Two Million iPhone 5 Pre-Orders in First Day of Sales

iPhone 4s is still great

I really like how this time around Apple isn't screwing over the current iPhone owners by offering a software feature that's only available on the new phone (think Facetime, Siri). It seems like on Wednesday everyone with an iPhone4s is going to get all the same software stuff as the iPhone5...that's pretty cool.

The fact that the new phone is still selling so well is interesting. I wonder how many of those orders are from iPhone4s people? I'll probably upgrade after my contract runs up in May 2013...this time however I'm going with a no-contract provider. The phone may be more expensive but the plans generally seem to be cheaper and give the user more freedom.
 
Geckotek said:
If Apple were just giving people what they want, I'm guessing the screen would be larger and we'd have NFC or at least simultaneous voice+data on CDMA/LTE carriers.

Name another product in Apple's history where they "keep on giving me things that are more "nice to have" than "need to have" because of aesthetic reasons". That word keep implies a pattern....which doesn't exist.

Surprise and design overwhelm is reserved for new products and the occasional design overhaul. It will not come every generation or even every second generation.
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I dont agree. There are so many ways of making (suprising) changes.

Give me an Iphone in a carbon cover!
Give me the Ipod line something different than the useall childish colours.
Why is it almost allways brushed og polish aluminum?!
Why dont integrad leather in the designs? Or wood maybe?
 
faroZ06 said:
If they're giving us what we want, does that mean that we don't want radical changes? I'm fine with the iPhone 5 design. It looks a lot cooler than the iPhone 4. It's not as big of a change as the 3GS to 4 change, but it's bigger than the rest of the changes. And pretty much everything on the inside has been upgraded. It's not more of the same.
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Thats exactly what it means for me. They are producing for the masses and theier commen preferences, and they dont correspont to what I prefer.
 
BruceEBonus said:
Sales figures alone do not a great iPhone make. Proof?. Look at yer average Hollywood action blockbuster .. people see these films and vote them to the top of the movie charts because theyre ... blockbusters. Ask them what they thought of the film afterwards and its a different story .. Pearl Harbor for example .. terrible film but fantastic sales figures ... Apple have a (current) captive audience / customer base thro' the success of the iPhone 4.0 and 3GS .. not the 4S. Once folks realise theyve been duped by upgrading 'for the sake of upgrading' - several hundreds of dollars to basically own the same phone form factor as what they already have .. then maybe .. just maybe the wee light in their 'heids' might come on and they say "No way, Ray. This is more of the same - the lazy sods! I will await the iPhone 5S thanks very much"
The likelihood however is that the iLemmings will form an orderly queue at the top of the cliff and shout "Let me buy whatever has the new logo and take my cash card because I have bugger all else to spend my disposable income on ..."

what a shame .. if only theyd made it 4G compatible for the UK ... until then ... the wait continues :-( As does my iPhone 4.0 in me jacket pocket! :mad:
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The 4S maintained Apples position as the customer satisfaction leader. I guess that is where your BS crashes into reality and falls apart.
 
Supermule said:
I dont agree. There are so many ways of making (suprising) changes.

Give me an Iphone in a carbon cover!
Give me the Ipod line something different than the useall childish colours.
Why is it almost allways brushed og polish aluminum?!
Why dont integrad leather in the designs? Or wood maybe?
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Seriously?

Wow. Wood?
 
darkslide29 said:
By your logic, those users who felt the 4S was not a worthy upgrade :rolleyes: would want the iPhone 5 in order to get ON the re-design cycle, and get OFF the S cycle if that's what's bothering them.

I mean, given that it is smaller all around, faster processor, double ram, bigger screen, and LTE.. I really don't understand what people want. It's obviously a much bigger upgrade than an S (internal) upgrade.
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I appreciate your valid argument .. I dunno .. I think its a bit of a deja vu with the iPad .. more of the same .. but lighter, smaller and faster ... but its a helluva price premium to do so .. but being in the UK two of our providers .. VodaFone and O2 both cannot use the current model iPhone 5 because it doesnt use their allocated LTE frequency .. so even if I bought one today .. its of no use to me in the future because it cant use the band ... crazy but thats it .. and then I would have to buy the 5S next year at probably a similar upgrade cost .. such a shame . .I was so looking forward to it too .... :confused:
 
Actually...

dvoros said:
Apple will announce the iPhone 6 in October. The iPhone 5 was an upgrade to the 4S and made to throw us off track. The new phone will have a 5 inch screen, easily handled by everyone, and will allow talk and search features as well as NFC. Stay tuned.:)
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I don't care about NFC, however, I was excited/intrigued by the rumors of integrating a fingerprint reader in the home button. I think a feature like that (if implemented well) would be a huge convenience to a lot of people. You could have your phone instantly lock itself without having to type a password each time you access it. It would help people keep their phone secure while at the same time still being convenient to use. Maybe that'll be in the iPhone6?...
 
Abazigal said:
Apple was never about a niche company. Steve was about creating useful gadgets that were easy to use and segued seamlessly into people's everyday lives. And naturally, when you achieve that, they are going to be products which are popular and enjoy a high demand. It just so happens that for the past few products, they happened to be both practical, performed well and looked aesthetically pleasing.

If you feel that way, then I can only say that maybe, you have been following the wrong company for the past few years? :confused:
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Jep. But i must say, Im not the only person who feels this way...but sometimes it sounds like it in here..

And Im possitive that Apple has the next big invention (TV maybe) allmost ready, but because of calculations by Economist (like myself) they are just maks. their profits. They could do better. But they dont.

Its good for the stock-value...but it slowly changes their profile - in my opinion.
 
Supermule said:
I dont agree. There are so many ways of making (suprising) changes.

Give me an Iphone in a carbon cover!
Give me the Ipod line something different than the useall childish colours.
Why is it almost allways brushed og polish aluminum?!
Why dont integrad leather in the designs? Or wood maybe?
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I didn't say there weren't ways. I said it's not what Apple does.
 
Supermule said:
I dont agree. There are so many ways of making (suprising) changes.

Give me an Iphone in a carbon cover!
Give me the Ipod line something different than the useall childish colours.
Why is it almost allways brushed og polish aluminum?!
Why dont integrad leather in the designs? Or wood maybe?
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A wood and leather phone with a carbon back....Seriously? :eek:
 
Takeo said:
Umm. Ya. That's what companies do. That's what all companies do. And that's no different that what Apple has been doing all along since 1976. As for innovation, you can't expect Apple or anyone to completely change the world every 12 months. Doesn't happen that way. The next big thing (if they can get deals in place) will probably be the TV. The iPhone isn't going to change much anymore.
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Yes, thats what all companies do if they a driven by profitmaks (and most are). But not all people/firms a driven by that. And I quess I was hoping for somewhere in between.

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wovel said:
Seriously?

Wow. Wood?
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Small mind - small imagination.
 
wikus said:
The power of media hype and marketing! Steve Jobs was great at persuasion... nothing more though.
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I've only ever really used this site for info and for posting a couple of questions about new releases over the last couple of years so don't know the tone or 'culture' here but if you really do believe that (imo utterly ludicrous) statement why did you bother joining and creating 1500+ posts?

Obviously feel free to do so and I'm sure you're adding something to the mix here (although it's not immediately apparent to me what that might be), but I'm not sure I'd have the time, energy or motivation to post that kind of stuff on a Samsung forum, even if I did believe they'd built a company on the coat tails of the work of people like Steve Jobs (which of course I don't ;) )
 
chen23 said:
I've only ever really used this site for info and for posting a couple of questions about new releases over the last couple of years so don't know the tone or 'culture' here but if you really do believe that (imo utterly ludicrous) statement why did you bother joining and creating 1500+ posts?

Obviously feel free to do so and I'm sure you're adding something to the mix here (although it's not immediately apparent to me what that might be), but I'm not sure I'd have the time, energy or motivation to post that kind of stuff on a Samsung forum, even if I did believe they'd built a company on the coat tails of the work of people like Steve Jobs (which of course I don't ;) )
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Tell me one thing Steve Jobs actually invented?
 
Supermule said:
I dont agree. There are so many ways of making (suprising) changes.

Give me an Iphone in a carbon cover!
Give me the Ipod line something different than the useall childish colours.
Why is it almost allways brushed og polish aluminum?!
Why dont integrad leather in the designs? Or wood maybe?
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hmmm

surprising does not automatically = good.

Apple have an aesthetic that is apparently wildly popular and successfull, I don't pretend to understand it on an intellectual level but at a gut level I very much enjoy the look and feel of virtually all Apple products and can tell one from a fair distance away, despite how often and how brazenly they've been copied.

Keeping it 'simple' and understated is a whole lot harder than it looks and whilst I think theres a lot Apple can be criticised for it's design aesthetic really isn't one of them; very few companies come close.
 
I'll probably eventually buy one, but only because my old iPhone 3G was dying and I have the loan of a iPhone 4 with a dodgy Home button.

The thing is, for me even the iPhone 4 is good enough. The only time I'd need the extra performance is gaming, but now I always use the iPad over the iPhone. We're not likely to have 4G networks here until the end of 2013! I rarely use the camera...

The only things that would have wowed me would be a completely new design, and a big improvement in battery life.

Like I said, I'll still end up getting one... Damn you Apple....
 
scott911 said:
i'm surprised...

at&T (and maybe other carriers) are not allowing an early upgrade so I would have thought the early uptake would be much slower than past phones.

- so are orders from people with older phones?
- or are people actually paying the non-subsidized fee?
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There are many people such as myself with an iPhone 4 who have been waiting for this update! My two year contract is over.
 
Supermule said:
I dont agree. There are so many ways of making (suprising) changes.

Give me an Iphone in a carbon cover!
Give me the Ipod line something different than the useall childish colours.
Why is it almost allways brushed og polish aluminum?!
Why dont integrad leather in the designs? Or wood maybe?
Click to expand...

Call it the tyranny of the majority...Apple doesn't radically redesign for the sake of constant novelty. There's always a practical or strategic reason for doing so. Apple evidently determined that they didn't need a total refresh this time around, that the top-to-bottom technical improvements and cosmetic refinements would be enough to please the majority of customers, and the sales figures indicate they were right. I'm completely unqualified to make any kind of Apple sales forecasts, but if they're anticipating sales to taper off or decline next year, that's when we'll see the really big overhaul.
 
I think the interesting note will be adoption rates and actual statistics.

Are we seeing people moving to the iphone5 from other platforms?
Are we seeing more people upgrading from previous iphones?
Will the iphone5 be able to maintain sales levels?

the iphone4/s was a success. But one cannot ignore the fact that within the end of the quarter of it's release, the Iphone sales dropped considerably and revenue was closer in line with the 3gs and 4's releases again rather than the initial success of the 4s.

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From a business perspective, ti will be interesting to see just how strong the sales are after the initial hype. Cause last time around, I think even apple was shocked that they weren't making record sales every quarter
 
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