2X CPU power
2X Graphics power
2X RAM
2X sales in the first 24 hours than last year to 2 million units
Ofcourse, as you know, Apple is doomed to hell and beyond for this innovation-less minor update.
In the official press release it states that the majority of pre-orders will be delivered on Sept 21st. What is a majority? Is that half the pre-orders? I ordered mine at 12:56 AM PST, that is less than an hour after pre-orders started, my order status states an October 5th delivery.
The worst part is that when I placed my pre-order, the website was indicating that it would deliver on Sept 21st. When I received my confirmation email the email said a delivery date of October 5th. I thought that can't be right, so I immediately went back to the Apple's website to see what it was saying the delivery date was and it still was indicating "Delivers Sept 21st".
I sure hope my order somehow gets bumped up! Heck I leave for China on the 23rd and really want my new iPhone 5 to play with on the plane. If I don't get it, do you think Apple will let me pick it up from the factory?![]()
i know this is sarcasm.
But I do not think you know what innovative means
making something faster, doesn't necessarily mean innovative
(please don't take this as me taking anything away from the iphone5, it's a good phone, in line with the top end phones from everyone else. But Innovative? is it bringing something truly new to the table? Some feature? item? design queue or element unseen or unrecognized?. No,it is not)
Great phone. Great product. But the term Innovative is getting smacked around like a wet towel in a locker room.
Uh ? What does one have to do with the other.
I'm not surprised. iPhone 4S was 1 million, iPhone 4 was 600,000. Seems 2 million is inline with their usual growth.
Big numbers for the new iPhone, as expected. This one will again sell tons more units than the previous generation.
Android Fanboy - "Ugly, S3 is better, this thing won't sell"...
Apple - "We were blown away by preorders"...
Android Fanboy - "BS Hype, held back supply, marketing spin"
Apple - "2M Preorders, doubling the iPhone 4s record"
Android Fanboy - "Oh, well whatever, S3 is quad core so its faster"
Geekbench - "iPhone 5 runs at least as fast on only 2 cores, saving tons of battery"
Android Fanboy - "FML"
Did I miss anything?
They sold out of the initial stock of pre-orders in 1 hour, so yes, it is possible that by 6am the delivery date was 10/5. Note that Apple can't simply sell all their stock through pre-orders, since otherwise they would have nothing for the in-store sales. Therefore, they allocate a certain amount of their inventory to pre-sales and the rest to store stock.
Supply chain has improved immensely with each new iPhone release, but sales go up, as well. They pre-sold 600,000 iPhone 4 units in 2010 and sold about 2 million the first weekend. They pre-sold 1 million iPhone 4S units in 2011 and sold about 4 million the first weekend. They pre-sold 2 million iPhone 5 units in 2012, and there are estimates that they could sell between 6-10 million the first weekend. They simply can't make these things fast enough to meet initial demand.
In all listed capacities, I fail to see the innovation.
Look, its a good product, but call it what it is. The iPhone 4G. Faster everything. Stop saying its more innovative than anything else. Its not. There's faster phones on the market, and that was demonstrated on Geekbench (Jellybean SIII smokes the rumored A6 in the test). Its a nice phone, it'll sell like hot cakes. The complaint is Apple's gone conservative, stale, boring, etc.
I got an iPhone 5. Its better than my old iPhone. But I don't see the projected differences sans LTE. And SIII has 2x Ram iPhone 5 anyway.
By the way, sales. Numbers are not evidence of innovation (or lack thereof). Not sure why so many insist that they are...
In all listed capacities, I fail to see the innovation.
Look, its a good product, but call it what it is. The iPhone 4G. Faster everything. Stop saying its more innovative than anything else. Its not. There's faster phones on the market, and that was demonstrated on Geekbench (Jellybean SIII smokes the rumored A6 in the test). Its a nice phone, it'll sell like hot cakes. The complaint is Apple's gone conservative, stale, boring, etc.
I got an iPhone 5. Its better than my old iPhone. But I don't see the projected differences sans LTE. And SIII has 2x Ram iPhone 5 anyway.
Few facts:
Apple is not going away!
Samsung is not going away!
Why do we constantly compare the two and spend countless hours debating which is better? I'm in the Apple camp and have made a conscious decision to this point. I'm happy for my Android loving friends...it's just not for me. Hardware/Software...which is better...who cares?
We are at a point in the smartphone world where incremental improves are the best we can expect. So it really boils down to user experience. My experience needs are different than the Android camps. I believe Apple is better positioned to improve the end users experience, but do I really care if Android users think? NO!
Not to start a flame war, but I do not lurk in the Android forums, but it seems their is a huge Android following in MRs...I wonder why?
I paid full retail price.
I put it on my credit card.
At least I can pay it off in chunks.
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Just a few innovations that we know of;
- A chip that is designed specifically for running iOS. Runs faster than 4core, double the ram, higher speed chips.
- Most possibly higher LTE speeds vs other phones in the market (yet to be tested).
- In-cell touch panel, that will reduce energy use.
- Integrated body style that uses the back plate as the skeleton.
- A new way to take panaroma pictures rather than stitching up several pictures.
I do not understand how these are not innovation.
SIII is a quad-core and has 2GB of RAM. iPhone 5 is dual-core with 1GB of RAM, yet they are not far off in performance. Android phones need more horsepower because everything on it is less efficient.
But, but, but, but it has 2X RAM!![]()
Exactly! I think a lot of people just don't realize how limited that initial stock of new iPhones is. Out of 2 million units sold, maybe 25% of those sells will get delivered on Friday - launch day. The other 75 % will get delivered anytime after that, including possibly two weeks after launch day.
the chip design itself could prove to be an Apple innovation. While the ARM Cpu concept and design isn't itself, If Apple did manage to bring development in house (still rumoured) and expand on the CPU with brand new on die features. Yes, Innovative.
the in-cell touch panel isn't apple's invention. we've seen it already. I'm looking for it now (but my googlefu is failing)
the integrated body isn't new either. However what impresses me is how Apple managed to get the antennae's working thorugh the metal casing. That could prove to be the most innovative feature.
Panoramic Apps have been available for all platforms, including iOS for years. this is not innovative. All apple has done is move it as a part of the OS applications, than a 3rd party one.
There's nothing wrong with the iphone5. People are just shocked that there's nothing really groundbreaking new. There's nothign the iphone is bringing it's customers as a tangible that everyone else hasn't really already done.
again, the iphone 5 is NOT A BAD PHONE. it' s a top tier, top of the line device. people buying it aren't going to be upset by doing so. There might be a small omission with the NFC thing, but for the majority, your iphone will do everything. People can piss and moan about the screen size, or lack of real change to the design, But thats purely subjective and not everyone will share that opinion.
Sorry, you are making Apple responsable for not making the iPhone5 compatable with a non existing network? By the time O2 or anybody else got up and running,iPhone6 will be there.D'oh! Read me post ... I am with O2 .. both they and Vodafone are not geared up just yet and are livid with EE for beating them to the line .. so EE users can and will get 4G (tho at what added premium is anyone's guess) but other providers can wait .. and wait . .and when they do get the 4G deal theyll find their existing iPhone 5s are about as much use as the original iPhone in getting LTE service .... 'cos theyll need a compatible phone to match their alloted frequency .. nothing like a bit of competition is there .. and this is nothing like that .. hurrah for UK enterprise!
What I`m seeing with iPhone 5 is similar to iPhone 4. Most innovation with iPhone 4 was related to the design. A4 chip, all glass with new antenna. And people were crying there was no innovation. These things take years to make sure they work and work well.
You can try to rationalize it all you want, but the fact remains that Apple has produced a quality product which people are voting for with their wallets. Your attempt at belittling people's purchase is drowned out by the sea of two million happy customers.
Apple said the "majority" will be delivered on 9/21, so that would be at least more than 1 million. The others will likely slip into October.
Just a few innovations that we know of;
- A chip that is designed specifically for running iOS. Runs faster than 4core, double the ram, higher speed chips.
- Most possibly higher LTE speeds vs other phones in the market (yet to be tested).
- In-cell touch panel, that will reduce energy use.
- Integrated body style that uses the back plate as the skeleton.
- A new way to take panaroma pictures rather than stitching up several pictures.
I do not understand how these are not innovation.
You're confused. Most of the people correcting the pro-Apple FUD from the "Apple does no wrong!" crowd are not Frandroids or Samsung-ites, they're Apple product users.
And MacRumors is not necessarily a "Pro-Apple" website. It's a website about Apple rumors. No need to be "pro-Apple" or whatever the hell that means to be here. Just being interested in things related to Apple is enough.
Basically, don't mistake your opinion and bias as the rules of the forum.