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On the website I'm sure it clearly stated 1-2 week delivery when you ordered at 6AM. It's not apples fault that you didn't read. When you ordered you accepted the fact that you were ok with waiting, just like I accepted having mine delivered on the 21st. Which is what the website said would happen when I ordered. It's not apples fault at all.

I actually did read it, so you're accusatory tone is incorrect and inappropriate.

I was most certainly willing to wait until the date they stated: which was 9/28/12.

Which I am still willing to wait for... but as you might notice, has actually increased to 10/05/12.

That's why I expressed concern, confusion and frustration - not because I don't read thoroughly.
 
So here is a projection:

The S3 debuted on 100 carriers and sold 9 mill. This means each carrier presold 90,000 each.

Apple debuted the 5 on 18 carriers and so far has presold 2 mill, which is 111,111 each.

If the projections hold true, when Apple debuts the 5 on all 100 carriers as Samsung has, they will have presold 11.1 million when each carrier begins taking presales.
 
So here is a projection:

The S3 debuted on 100 carriers and sold 9 mill. This means each carrier presold 90,000 each.

Apple debuted the 5 on 18 carriers and so far has presold 2 mill, which is 111,111 each.

If the projections hold true, when Apple debuts the 5 on all 100 carriers as Samsung has, they will have presold 11.1 million when each carrier begins taking presales.

Unlike my credit card, I have a low rate of interest...
 
Funny how I see more comments about fan droids than actual fan droid posts here. Who was it that was so insecure again?

I was unimpressed by this release. Doesn't mean I wasn't willing to face reality. Apple shattered their previous record again. Go Apple! By the way, sales. Numbers are not evidence of innovation (or lack thereof). Not sure why so many insist that they are...
 
So here is a projection:

The S3 debuted on 100 carriers and sold 9 mill. This means each carrier presold 90,000 each.

Apple debuted the 5 on 18 carriers and so far has presold 2 mill, which is 111,111 each.

If the projections hold true, when Apple debuts the 5 on all 100 carriers as Samsung has, they will have presold 11.1 million when each carrier begins taking presales.

And Samsung's "9 million preorders" misinformation lives on. :rolleyes:

The 9 million S3s were not presales to customers. They were simply shipment orders by carriers. Completely different number than the 2 million iPhone preorders by consumers.
 
Sure It Sells Well.....

But I want something other than just a faster chip. No NFC = Not excited. And it still has the ******** antenna on the outside. And then the problems with the two models with no international LTE support on one and no CDMA2000+data on the other. That is because of the ******** antenna design. Time to fire the entire hardware design team.

Oh yeah. It's thinner. I guess THAT will make me buy it.
 
So is it "iPhone 5", as per Philip Schiller, or "the iPhone 5", as per most other places, when referring to this device in a sentence? I'm just curious. The device is gorgeous though, software and hardware, and I can't wait to start using it.
 
OK, but how does this affect preorder numbers?

If there was only 1 iPhone 5 made, you would still have 2 million preorders.

I'm not following you. Help me out here. :confused:

...

See the other thread where the geniuses were out in groves claiming that Apple being "blown away" by iPhone 5 pre-orders was a sham backed by them limiting supply to create artificial demand and the ability to make a claim like that. :rolleyes:
 
i'm surprised...

at&T (and maybe other carriers) are not allowing an early upgrade so I would have thought the early uptake would be much slower than past phones.

- so are orders from people with older phones?
- or are people actually paying the non-subsidized fee?

Yes. LTE, Better camera, better CPU/GPU, Thinner, Lighter, Larger screen, Better battery (yet to be seen).

I purchased an iPhone 5 32gig, cost just over $600 ($299 + $250 + $50 in taxes, yes sucks to live in Kansas haha) I would pay the $299 to upgrade no problem, the rest will be easily made up for when I sell my 4S 16gig. If they would have let me I would have paid full price to not be on contract, but yes, the iPhone 5 imo is the best iPhone yet. 4S was incremental bump, as is adding the technology they have in the 5 with custom CPU's, the change to the glass and digitizer, adding LTE and iOS 6 is going to be a very nice upgrade.

Let's face facts, anything done with smartphones is incremental at this point. They are going to be faster, better battery life (hopefully) change the screen size and tweak/upgrade the OS. Sure Apple puts on a show about how it's a huge revolution etc... and the haters downplay the engineering of it. If you want some wow factor find someone with the Driod Razr, that phone is crazy thin imo. Well it's also 8.6mm vs the iPhone 5 is now 7.6mm and packs what could be the fastest hardware in a smartphone to date. Pretty impressive imo.
 
And Samsung's "9 million preorders" misinformation lives on. :rolleyes:

The 9 million S3s were not presales to customers. They were simply shipment orders by carriers. Completely different number than the 2 million iPhone preorders by consumers.

So there was never any numbers released by Samsung nor carriers in regards to actual pre-orders?

Then it is safe to say Apple wins this argument, simply because carriers could have ordered 9 million but never presold all of them and the lack of sending out a press release on preorders means we cannot not account for what we cannot see.
 
Can those folks who said it will be a flop, identify themselves? :D

Those are the guys who have now switched their line to "Of course it sold well, iPhone users are sheep."

These guys crack me up -- I actually have to admire their determination. They never give up and they have an answer to everything. Low sales = Apple is doomed. High sales = Apple users are sheep. These are the same people who predicted Apple's demise in the 90s, that the iMac would flop, that the iPhone would flop -- they will never, ever change. They simply don't understand Apple's appeal, and the cognitive dissonance enrages them.
 
Funny how I see more comments about fan droids than actual fan droid posts here. Who was it that was so insecure again?

I was unimpressed by this release. Doesn't mean I wasn't willing to face reality. Apple shattered their previous record again. Go Apple! By the way, sales. Numbers are not evidence of innovation (or lack thereof). Not sure why so many insist that they are...

That's because the numbers are proof that they are full of ****. so they wait in the shadows until the next flaw comes along.
 
Sales figures alone do not a great iPhone make. Proof?. Look at yer average Hollywood action blockbuster .. people see these films and vote them to the top of the movie charts because theyre ... blockbusters. Ask them what they thought of the film afterwards and its a different story .. Pearl Harbor for example .. terrible film but fantastic sales figures ... Apple have a (current) captive audience / customer base thro' the success of the iPhone 4.0 and 3GS .. not the 4S. Once folks realise theyve been duped by upgrading 'for the sake of upgrading' - several hundreds of dollars to basically own the same phone form factor as what they already have .. then maybe .. just maybe the wee light in their 'heids' might come on and they say "No way, Ray. This is more of the same - the lazy sods! I will await the iPhone 5S thanks very much"
The likelihood however is that the iLemmings will form an orderly queue at the top of the cliff and shout "Let me buy whatever has the new logo and take my cash card because I have bugger all else to spend my disposable income on ..."

what a shame .. if only theyd made it 4G compatible for the UK ... until then ... the wait continues :-( As does my iPhone 4.0 in me jacket pocket! :mad:

By your logic, those users who felt the 4S was not a worthy upgrade :rolleyes: would want the iPhone 5 in order to get ON the re-design cycle, and get OFF the S cycle if that's what's bothering them.

I mean, given that it is smaller all around, faster processor, double ram, bigger screen, and LTE.. I really don't understand what people want. It's obviously a much bigger upgrade than an S (internal) upgrade.
 
Funny how I see more comments about fan droids than actual fan droid posts here. Who was it that was so insecure again?

I was unimpressed by this release. Doesn't mean I wasn't willing to face reality. Apple shattered their previous record again. Go Apple! By the way, sales. Numbers are not evidence of innovation (or lack thereof). Not sure why so many insist that they are...

At least we're talking about fandroids in OUR OWN FORUM. Ha!
 
Is this just Apple.com/store pre-orders, or does this include AT&T, Sprint, Verizon, and any other carriers? Also, what about other international Sept 14 preorders?
 
So here is a projection:

The S3 debuted on 100 carriers and sold 9 mill. This means each carrier presold 90,000 each.

Apple debuted the 5 on 18 carriers and so far has presold 2 mill, which is 111,111 each.

If the projections hold true, when Apple debuts the 5 on all 100 carriers as Samsung has, they will have presold 11.1 million when each carrier begins taking presales.

The 9 million number was sold "to carriers". These are the numbers that the 100 carriers requested from Samsung. We have no idea what time-frame these 9 million were to be delivered, and that does not represent 9 million customer orders.

This is not a relevant comparison. Sprint alone ordered 30+ million iPhones last October.
 
Looking forward to receiving my iPhone 5 this Friday. Held off on upgrading from iPhone 4 to iPhone 4S but its time to upgrade and can't wait to experience firsthand the new size and super fast A6.
 
But I want something other than just a faster chip. No NFC = Not excited. And it still has the ******** antenna on the outside. And then the problems with the two models with no international LTE support on one and no CDMA2000+data on the other. That is because of the ******** antenna design. Time to fire the entire hardware design team.

Oh yeah. It's thinner. I guess THAT will make me buy it.

I'm curious what retailers even have NFC as an option? I purchase most of my gadgets online. If grocery stores or some store you actually visit don't have the means to checkout by NFC what's the big deal?

Apple stores already allow you to purchase your item by scanning the barcode via the camera, not NFC.

Walmart is testing checking out with an iPhone by scanning the barcode with the camera, not NFC.

I'm not aware of any wide spread use of NFC.

Fast Food chains may be a good place for NFC, but as of yet I don't know of any implementing it.

Yes I am speaking of the US, so if this is widely used somewhere else in the world please educate me why this would be such a huge selling feature.

Thanks :)
 
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