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Apple Announces Safari 4

bbotte said:
I used it to log in to Mobile Me and it seems to be just as slow as Firefox and Safari 3. :mad: I am using it now to post this message.
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I was disappointed with this also.

All this time I had been assuming that MobileMe mail would become useable when the Javascript performance improved. Not! :(

MobileMe is still far slower for me than Gmail, and slower by far than my Universities Zimbra based version of the same thing. Zimbra is basically the same technology in an open source version. If MobileMe can't make itself run as fast as Zimbra, there's not much point.
 
GUI FAIL!

Apple, we buy your products because they work well and are uniform. Unless you plan on implementing this look elsewhere, methinks you've made a mistake on this one.
 
I found Hotmail doesnt in fact work with it..you can log in but you cant open any email as posted by another user..off it goes.
 
How/when is Safari four causing Mail to crash? Is it when opening messages/starting up/sending or what? Just trying to know to test and see if it happens to me?

cheers
hacksaw
 
Works with First Direct

jamesarm97 said:
Still does not fix the Banking SSL / login problems I and others have been having since the last update (BB&T bank for one). I have to use Firefox just to log into my bank.

- James
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Safari 4 works for me with First Direct (HSBC) in the UK. First time since 10.5.6 that I haven't had to use FF.
 
hacksaw-C87 said:
How/when is Safari four causing Mail to crash? Is it when opening messages/starting up/sending or what? Just trying to know to test and see if it happens to me?

cheers
hacksaw
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agreed mail will not stay running for me.. ?
 
I must say, the added speed boost is very nice. But I do miss the blue progress bar and the stop/reload button. I see it there in the corner of the URL bar, but I miss having an actual button.

Awesome idea to have the Top Sites be the default anytime a new tab is opened up!
 
God you guys are a bunch of cry babies.


First off, IT'S A BETA. Some sites might not work, stop acting so surprised.

And the new tabs are great, a rip-off of Chrome (although I'm pretty sure Chrome ripped off someone else), but great nonetheless. Just give it a few months, everyone in here who hates it will love it save for the few who cling on to Safari 3 like they did with PPC.

My biggest complaint is the removal of the blue loading bar.
 
Sorry, bit confused by this. Mail won't stay running for you ... that's what you meant, right? Mail has been running for 2 1/2 hours on mine, no problems as yet. I think there's a thread on this topic running at the moment, probably more help on there.
 
My take on this is it is a vast improvement on the old safari developer preview.
The new tabs are much more logical and take up a lot less space, i love the new "welcome page" kinda thing that visually shows me my most commonly visited web pages.
Like the bookmarking button, its easier to find.
 
hdsalinas said:
I like the new Safari TOP SITE feature. I just wish that I could edit the list so I could use it as a quick favorites launch pad. Is it posible?
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Hrm. On my MacBook Pro, "Top Sites" showed the sites I have visited most often. Therefore, it's an automated quick favorites. (The feature is similar to what Opera and Google Chrome do, only with the addition of the 3d-rendered eye candy aspect.)

Indeed, when you load it, it says right at the bottom "As you browse the web, Safari will learn which websites are your favorites, and replace the websites above with those websites."

And I just noticed the little 'folded corner with a star' to show updated pages. *THAT* is clever.
 
top sites is great ill agree on that and i have switched from firefox it seems quite a bit snappier to me....im happy
 
CTYankee said:
FYI...Safari 4B and Growl Mail do not play well. You need to delete the GrowlMail bundle in the Library/Mail/Bundles folder or Mail quits on launch.
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this fixed my mail issueses.. thanks!



but it f$%^&* that sucks... I really like the speed of Safari 4B .. hopeful growl mail will get updated... that and 1Password as plugin is now broken...such is the beta life
 
1password support

If your 1Passwords stops working you need to modify the SupportedBrowsers.plist File.
This allows 1Password to work with this developer preview version of Safari.

This file is located within 1Password App itself so you need to do the following:
Right click 1Password and "Show Application Contents"
Go to:
Contents -> Resources -> SupportedBrowsers.plist
Open this file with TextEdit and copy and paste the following(replace all the text in this file):

Code: 
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
	<key>Camino</key>
	<dict>
		<key>ClassName</key>
		<string>OPCaminoPlugin</string>
		<key>InternetPlugin</key>
		<true/>
		<key>MaxBundleVersion</key>
		<string>2010</string>
		<key>MinBundleVersion</key>
		<string>1.0.1</string>
		<key>PluginName</key>
		<string>OnePasswdCamino</string>
		<key>BundleIdentifier</key>
		<string>org.mozilla.camino</string>
	</dict>
	<key>DEVONagent</key>
	<dict>
		<key>ClassName</key>
		<string>OPDevonAgentPlugin</string>
		<key>InternetPlugin</key>
		<true/>
		<key>MaxBundleVersion</key>
		<string>2.3.1</string>
		<key>MinBundleVersion</key>
		<string>2.0</string>
		<key>PluginName</key>
		<string>OnePasswdDEVONagent</string>
		<key>BundleIdentifier</key>
		<string>com.devon-technologies.agent</string>
	</dict>
	<key>NetNewsWire</key>
	<dict>
		<key>ClassName</key>
		<string>OPNetNewsWirePlugin</string>
		<key>InternetPlugin</key>
		<true/>
		<key>MaxBundleVersion</key>
		<string>9999</string>
		<key>MinBundleVersion</key>
		<string>462</string>
		<key>PluginName</key>
		<string>OnePasswdNNW</string>
		<key>BundleIdentifier</key>
		<string>com.ranchero.NetNewsWire</string>
	</dict>
	<key>OmniWeb</key>
	<dict>
		<key>ClassName</key>
		<string>OPOmniWebPlugin</string>
		<key>InternetPlugin</key>
		<true/>
		<key>MaxBundleVersion</key>
		<string>623</string>
		<key>MinBundleVersion</key>
		<string>607.17</string>
		<key>PluginName</key>
		<string>OnePasswdOmniWeb</string>
		<key>BundleIdentifier</key>
		<string>com.omnigroup.OmniWeb5</string>
	</dict>
	<key>Safari</key>
	<dict>
		<key>ClassName</key>
		<string>OPSafariPlugin</string>
		<key>InternetPlugin</key>
		<true/>
		<key>MaxBundleVersion</key>
		<string>5528.16</string>
		<key>MinBundleVersion</key>
		<string>412</string>
		<key>PluginName</key>
		<string>OnePasswdSafari</string>
		<key>BundleIdentifier</key>
		<string>com.apple.Safari</string>
	</dict>
	<key>WebKit</key>
	<dict>
		<key>ClassName</key>
		<string>OPSafariPlugin</string>
		<key>InternetPlugin</key>
		<true/>
		<key>MaxBundleVersion</key>
		<string>23700</string>
		<key>MinBundleVersion</key>
		<string>0</string>
		<key>PluginName</key>
		<string>OnePasswdSafari</string>
		<key>BundleIdentifier</key>
		<string>org.webkit.nightly.WebKit</string>
	</dict>
	<key>Fluid</key>
	<dict>
		<key>ClassName</key>
		<string>OPFluidPlugin</string>
		<key>InternetPlugin</key>
		<true/>
		<key>MaxBundleVersion</key>
		<string>0.9.1.3</string>
		<key>MinBundleVersion</key>
		<string>0.8</string>
		<key>PluginName</key>
		<string>OnePasswdFluid</string>
		<key>BundleIdentifier</key>
		<string>com.fluidapp.FluidInstance.</string>
	</dict>
</dict>
</plist>
 
No issues; seems much faster

I installed this on my MacPro3,1 straight off apple's web page. No issues.

The interfaces changes didn't take me long to get used to.
Interacting with gmail is much much faster ... switching between messages/folders, etc.

All of the sites I visit frequently look the same and work properly with Safari Beta 4 ... so far.
 
Woops, I didn't know you can also upload files. Or just replace SupportedBrowsers.plist with this modified one:
 

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