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I do have issue with this. I miss that.

This is my biggest complaint, and a main reason why i never used firefox. I like to see a progress of the page loading. Now they copied firefox with a spinning circle? Seriously apple?

I'm liking the techy updates to this (speed, rendering, et al), but I am very disspointed in the UI design changes. Tabs up top are stupid. Requires more movement and just doesn't make sense to have them on the outside.

Plus, now you have to click a little area in the tab's corner to move or extract it, whereas before you could click anywhere. I've already have some curses over missing the new spot in my using of it this morning.

Apple's really been disappointing me lately, and this is just another small example in a long line.
 
It's not a plugin, it's an InputManager hack and is unsupported - that's why it's broken. It's 1Password's fault, not Apple's, so it's up to them to get it working again.

Oh, news to me. Guess we'll have to wait for something from Agile. :cool:
 
You can remove sites from your top sites.

Click edit at the bottom and you can click the 'X' that shows up next to the sites. They won't show up again until they rank high.
 
First Impressions on Windows XP

I was browsing sites for a while using IE on my OLD Windows XP laptop (bought it from one of off-lease shops), and thought I'd give this a try. It's a Centrino 1.5 GHz with either 512 MB or 1 gig of RAM, can't recall.

It's fast, seems faster than IE on the same machine. Pages do load snappier.

I do like the native Windows look far better than the "a bit of Mac on Windows" look. I know that might have been a fond reminder for us Mac folks, but it's just plain annoying for everyone else, and it suggested that Apple merely ported a lot of their own UI code to run on Windows instead of rewriting their code to use native Windows APIs. So the "native look" probably has a lot to do with the speed increases, and will probably mean a lot fewer bugs because the Windows APIs are more mature. Plus if Apple wants to be taken seriously in the Windows world, it really does need to try to make its apps blend in instead of sticking out.

However, it is still evident to me that this is a Windows application written by people not used to writing Windows applications. Just as the Mac has a style guide for how a program should "look like a Mac application", Windows has them too, and this app is close, but not quite. Certain fonts seem just a bit too big (the address bar) and some dialogs just don't look right (the "default browser check"). But these are minor quibbles.

What else? The tabs on top is ridiculous, and I hope there's a way to turn it off. I was very disoriented by the lack of a traditional application menu and took a few seconds to figure out where everything was (but that's not just Apple, everyone in Windows-land seems to like doing this -- Windows Media Player drove me INSANE for the same reasons). I do like that pretty much all the menu settings have been condensed into two drop-downs.

I could not, for the life of me, figure out how to turn on the Top Sites browser, or Cover Flow. I searched and searched, then gave up because I had to get to work. I might be missing something obvious, but a good UI shouldn't let that happen.

Am I the only one that thinks that Apple's apparent philosophy of "Cover Flow on EVERYTHING!" is getting a bit tired? It's almost like Apple's written just one application framework (a list browser with Cover Flow) and is trying to apply it to everything imaginable: the Finder, iTunes, iPhoto, Safari, Front Row...

I will definitely continue experimenting with this on my laptop and looking forward to trying it on my Mac too!
 
Someone else noticing a continues reading (or writing) of the HDD after the Safari 4 install? I suspect it's the "Safari webpage preview fetcher" process, it's damn annoying.
 
I found the progress bar psychologically depressing. Always looking at it to see who things where going. I prefer it now. Out of sight out of mind -- but to each its own.
 
Can you do "cover flow" on a windows machine? I don't see how you do it on my work XP machine.
 
Awesome! Just installed it and I already love the new "Top Sites" feature! Thanks apple for a great release, final version should be amazing! So far seems to be stable. :D
 
I read somewhere that Safari is a memory hog. Is this true?

Anyone know anything about the memory usage of this new version?

Many thanks!
 
Tabs on top, a native Windows UI, and more speed?! Awesome! Finally a decent replacement for Chrome on my PC. :)
 
Does anyone know how to turn on Topsites and coverflow??? I just downloaded it on windows xp and spent 50 minutes looking for it :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
 
Didn't read all 10 pages, but after installing Safari 4 beta, Mail.app now always crashes when downloading a mail ... :(

Anybody else experiences this??
 
"Full Page Zoom" is now available from:
- Safari 4 Beta
- Opera (been full screen zoom since so long that I can't even remember which version started it all)
- Firefox 3 (discovered that last night, and even said "now only Safari is missing this"*).

* = Internet Explorer 11, available in 2035, will probably have it too. ;)


Internet Explorer has had this feature for years: press F11 on IE for Windows and there it is.
 
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