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Apple Announces WWDC 2010 Dates: June 7-11
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Two thoughts on this. If 10.6 wasn’t such a non-update, this wouldn’t be as big of an issue.
And Jobs did say at the Leopard launch:
“I’m quite pleased with the pace of new operating systems every 12 to 18 months for the foreseeable future,” he said. “We’ve put out major releases on the average of one a year, and it’s given us the ability to polish and polish and improve and improve.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/technology/22apple.html?_r=1
Yet, 10.6 took 22 months. And we’re likely looking at even longer, likely 26 or more, for 10.7 assuming it’s not announced this year and Apple will wait to go through another WWDC before launching it sometime in late 2011.
With Microsoft rumored to release Windows 8 in 2011 and the goodwill Windows 7 has generated this past year (compared to Vista or really even 10.6), the pressure is building for something new on the Mac OS X side.
Did you forget this is a "Developer" conference? This isn't Macworld. If they talk about any hardware it most likely will be the iPhone and Mac Pro, the rest will be development for the iPhone and the Mac and possibly gaming coming to the Mac. I wouldn't be surprised if there will be an appearance from Valve.
Okay, maybe not beginners, but maybe people who've been programming for Windows or Unix.
As for putting out a new major version every year. I don't know. If it's to put out a new release just to put out a new release, I have a problem with that. If it lets you do something that you need to do that it didn't do before, or makes something easier, I'm fine with that. But not just to be different. If you want to have a change, get checked to see if you have ADD.
On the other hand, I don't think the developers should just laze around & get out a release whenever. Put in features that people need. And when you can't think of any new/better features, fix bugs & better support new hardware.
My 2¢
Extremes???
WOW...they cut the IT Portion, and all the extremists come out. They're cutting OSX, or abandoning it...?? EASY! What more could they offer, in terms of big items, other than iPhone? Blue Ray? Please...; they just released new laptops, and iMac's not that long ago. I guess MacPros, and they may..we'll have to wait and see.
But don't start going to extremes over one conference, or a track being removed. The focus NOW is iPhone. And as someone else said, the next logical step for OSX AND their [Apple] hardware is combining touch screen capabilities that are solid, and having the ability to use regular KB/Mouse. Adding a touchscreen to a system, and seeing the cursor move around [ala Windows] isn't true touch/response. Those that think so, are crazy.
Lets wait, and see what it brings before we all jump off the cliff...
WOW...they cut the IT Portion, and all the extremists come out. They're cutting OSX, or abandoning it...?? EASY! What more could they offer, in terms of big items, other than iPhone? Blue Ray? Please...; they just released new laptops, and iMac's not that long ago. I guess MacPros, and they may..we'll have to wait and see.
But don't start going to extremes over one conference, or a track being removed. The focus NOW is iPhone. And as someone else said, the next logical step for OSX AND their [Apple] hardware is combining touch screen capabilities that are solid, and having the ability to use regular KB/Mouse. Adding a touchscreen to a system, and seeing the cursor move around [ala Windows] isn't true touch/response. Those that think so, are crazy.
Lets wait, and see what it brings before we all jump off the cliff...
I don't know OS X snow leopard is doing fine, most people are happy with it, and there are more exciting things going on than just another upgrade to the operating system, I for one rather see them make snow leopard as stable and functional as possible before they throw us another UI.
But that only me
I for one am more interested in iphone OS 4 and what that will bring new to the iphone, itouch, and ipad. I can't wait till the ipad has all the goodies that we seen with possible next gen. iphone.
It happened with a friend of mine who likes to code. He decided he wanted to code for the iphone. Not only did he buy an iphone, he went and bought a mac so he could code for it as well.
Seriously, how many of these comments do we need.
Haven't people had enough? Why would Apple send the iPhone to a network that can not let people talk and use data at the same time? It would be a step back.
Now that multitasking is on the iPhone, just use Skype and now you can make calls and use data at the same time. You'll also save your cell minutes. For $2.95 a month you can get unlimited minutes with skype to any phone in the U.S. and Canada. That problem is fixed and will actually save you some money because you can lower your minutes and save on your total cell bill. So now you have phone calls and data at the same time on Verizon. Done.
Sure, but they can take a class at a local college or Apple training site for that. There isn't anything new in OS X to show developers though and the big money and interest is in the iPad and iPhone OS.
Right and Steve has never backtracked on anything he's said previously. Honestly, it's really not that important to have a shiny new OS every two years. I really don't get the feeling that 10.5/10.6 is that old and creaky. And as for Windows, I doubt Win 8 is going to be a big deal b/c most Win users only update when they buy a new machine. Part of the reason Win 7 is such a huge hit is because XP is old and creaky and Vista was pure garbage. But consumers are satisfied with 7 and businesses are just a starting to migrate to it so not a huge upgrade potential and any sales damage to Mac b/c of 7 is done.
Very well said, about the only thing people seem to be up in arms about is blu-ray on Mac and I have blu-ray on my custom PC and trust me you are not miss anything. Price is also a consideration. I do my backup to HD or DVD-9; blu-ray is still very slow and for me unpredictable for long term backup.
I doubt they'll call it iPhone 4G because it would easily get confusing for consumers. Sprint runs 4G Network ads all the time in the states, so some consumers may think if they buy the iPhone 4G, it'll be faster download speeds than the 3GS, which isn't true.
I suspect that Apple will simply call it the iPhone. Drop the extras like 3G, 4G, etc. and simply call it the iPhone like they do their notebook and desktop lineup. It causes less confusion than adding 4G or HD on the end. Plus, everything has HD on the end of it now. HD this, HD that. So stupid. Just like when Microsoft was adding .NET to everything.
Well I hope that's not Apple's attitude.
Fine, as long as you can use it on a computer with a real keyboard.
It's a completely different thing. Verizon doesn't support voice and data at the same time, so this isn't possible but AT&T does support voice & data simultaneously therefore that's where the guys original quote came from.
The only reason I hope that happens is that it may finally force AT&T to give us tethering.
True
This is EXACTLY why I just bought my first Mac (MacBook Pro). OSX rocks...ive already converted my family and half my friends 
This is EXACTLY why I just bought my first Mac (MacBook Pro). OSX rocks...ive already converted my family and half my friends
Awesome! Looks like I’m two months from my massively-updated next iPhone!
An early-June announcement fits with mid-to-late-June shipping, as suggested by AT&T employee vacation blackout dates.
Having to decide whether to get an iPad first or a high-res video-chatting iPhone is painful.
As for the Mac: it’s not going away. I agree that the Mac and iPad will merge but that is YEARS away. And even then, I predict a transition that continues to run classic mouse-based software (just like Classic and Rosetta). And computers are still huge sellers that people need. So Mac OS X development is hardly stopping, even if it’s no longer Apple’s only focus.
Eventually, I predict iPad/iMac desktops that lie flat on the table (vertical touchscreens = aching Popeye arms) or at a slight angle. Physical keyboards will still be around (possibly optional). The really BIG iPad/iMac desktops will be ultra-wide screen, giving you more workspace without having to reach too far away. Some will have a “tower” or box for pro processing power, slots and cooling. And they’ll flip up (optional accessory?) for watching video/slideshows. Meanwhile, laptops will be a shrinking niche, but iPads with bigger screens and attached (maybe folding) keyboards will appear. But intended for near-flat use, not an L-shape with a vertical screen that you’d push onto the floor with every gesture. All these systems will support a mouse as a requirement for Mac apps, but not for Touch apps. Fear not—these changes won’t happen soon!
An early-June announcement fits with mid-to-late-June shipping, as suggested by AT&T employee vacation blackout dates.
Having to decide whether to get an iPad first or a high-res video-chatting iPhone is painful.
As for the Mac: it’s not going away. I agree that the Mac and iPad will merge but that is YEARS away. And even then, I predict a transition that continues to run classic mouse-based software (just like Classic and Rosetta). And computers are still huge sellers that people need. So Mac OS X development is hardly stopping, even if it’s no longer Apple’s only focus.
Eventually, I predict iPad/iMac desktops that lie flat on the table (vertical touchscreens = aching Popeye arms) or at a slight angle. Physical keyboards will still be around (possibly optional). The really BIG iPad/iMac desktops will be ultra-wide screen, giving you more workspace without having to reach too far away. Some will have a “tower” or box for pro processing power, slots and cooling. And they’ll flip up (optional accessory?) for watching video/slideshows. Meanwhile, laptops will be a shrinking niche, but iPads with bigger screens and attached (maybe folding) keyboards will appear. But intended for near-flat use, not an L-shape with a vertical screen that you’d push onto the floor with every gesture. All these systems will support a mouse as a requirement for Mac apps, but not for Touch apps. Fear not—these changes won’t happen soon!
But when Leopard came out Apple said that intervals between major releases would be shorter.
There will be a 10.7. Not to worry.
Even if they do allow it it it will probably be fairly pricey like $30/mo additional, i.e., $60 the same price as a regular 3G data plan. So you'd have to be a fairly heavy user for it to be cost effective.
Yeah, oh maybe absent? Keynote's all iPhone OS, we've got that. Will they even talk Mac OS at all? Workshops definitely, but might be the first year that there's not a peep from Steve and the gang on Macs... Unless they're just replacing the OS on Macs with the iPhone OS. :-/
Oh goody. Mac OS X is an afterthought.
Yeah, and when the iPod 1.0 came out Steve said flash memory based MP3 players were garbage b/c they had tiny screens and didn't hold much. But of course the iPod shuffle is "incredible." I don't think I have enough fingers to count how many times Steve said one thing and then did the opposite.
I realize that it's a different thing, but it becomes a mute point if Voice and Data isn't needed, because both can be done over the data network. Why is the Voice network even needed on the iPhone. And it's not even that far fetched since Verizon has been so supportive of Skype and their other phones(Ex. Droid). It kind of seems that they(Verizon) are inderectly pushing that direction anyways.
That's an asinine notion. Probably the DUMBEST thing Apple can do.
Why the HELL would I want my macbook pro to run anything resembling iPhone OS? The ipad has created a NEW niche in computing, and won't be coming close to Mac OS.
On an unrelated note, I could care less about Blu-Ray coming to macs. At very best all I would do with it is watch a few movies, which look way better on my 42" HDTV (which has a blu-ray player hooked up) anyway.