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Well buddy to come full circle the DMA is overreach, which gives away Apple assets for free. Freeloaders can use it. That’s a fact.

The wsj published an article in innovation in the eu. It was abysmal. And in part the DMA reflects the problems the eu faces.
What country is the WSJ from?

Then just disable the parts to not allow 3rd parties on your platform then and just sell your own products only
 
It’s my attitude that makes the DMA exist? Wow the power in my hands.
No it’s your response
If companies don’t like it & they know the rules so just go elsewhere
Like it or lump it
Hence why the DMA exists with this attitude
 
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Because they are not the operating system maker that’s why
If you are not prepared to allow 3rd parties the same access to the OS as your own products then don’t allow them on your platform just restrict them like you do with other things
So your preference is that Apple not fix problems it sees with products, like it did with Bluetooth pairing? Because if they can’t get a ROI they’re not going to fix things.

Or is Apple supposed to do R&D for the entire industry out of the goodness of its heart?
 
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So your preference is that Apple not fix problems it sees with products, like it did with Bluetooth pairing? Because if they can’t get a ROI they’re not going to fix things.

Or is Apple supposed to do R&D for the entire industry out of the goodness of its heart?
There is a flaw in your argument
Ok so what products that are non apple branded did they help connect better with the OS for the whole industry with seamless connectivity
 
No it’s your response
If companies don’t like it & they know the rules so just go elsewhere
That’s business 101.
Like it or lump it
Exactly. If you want to do business with Costco you follow their rules.
Hence why the DMA exists with this attitude
The DMA is an anti Apple campaign. The wsj had a few choice words regarding the eu. The DMA is the shining example of why.
 
That’s business 101.

Exactly. If you want to do business with Costco you follow their rules.

The DMA is an anti Apple campaign. The wsj had a few choice words regarding the eu. The DMA isn’t shining example of why.
You do understand that Costco is a store not an operating system maker?
There is a difference

the wsj is that not to do with the financial sector in New York and is that not in America

it could be viewed as anti apple if you have
A attachment to a company that just sells things
 
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The Wall Street Jiurnal. It reports from everywhere.

Then the third party should evaluate a business plan. Blaming Apple for a lousy business plan only on Macrumors.
Don’t you mean the Wall Street journal
That’s in this country
Headquarters1211 Avenue of the Americas New York City, New York 10036, U.S.
CountryUnited States

There aren’t any companies on MR complaining
 
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There is a flaw in your argument
Ok so what products that are non apple branded did they help connect better with the OS for the whole industry with seamless connectivity
Apple invented a better way, brought it to market. This directly led to Android introducing a similar feature two years later.

Headphone companies had decades to improve Bluetooth pairing and didn’t. Any one of them could have taken a proposal to the Bluetooth standards body and gotten it implemented. But they didn’t.

This is why I say the DMA chills innovation. Had the DMA been in effect at the time AirPods were introduced, Apple would not have been allowed to introduce them without giving the pairing tech to everyone for free. So if Apple decided that wasn’t worth the ROI, pairing doesn’t get fixed. The EU has made literally everyone on the planet’s products worse because they don’t think Apple deserves exclusivity on its own inventions! Thanks, idiots in Brussels - we appreciate it :rolleyes: .

(Or maybe if we’re lucky, the EU wouldn’t get AirPods, or maybe get AirPods without the pairing feature, and the rest of the world would).

The EU’s record of screwing up tech regulations and lack of innovation ought embarrass them. But when all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. So they think the reason they can’t innovate is Apple’s fault, not their sticking with the mindset of East Germans in 1970 that Apple’s innovations should belong to all.
 
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Apple invented a better way, brought it to market. This directly led to Android introducing a similar feature two years later.

Headphone companies had decades to improve Bluetooth pairing and didn’t. Any one of them could have taken a proposal to the Bluetooth standards body and gotten it implemented. But they didn’t.

This is why I say the DMA chills innovation. Had the DMA been in effect at the time AirPods were introduced, Apple would not have been allowed to introduce them without giving the pairing tech to everyone for free. So if Apple decided that wasn’t worth the ROI, pairing doesn’t get fixed. So the EU has made literally everyone on the planet’s products worse because they don’t think Apple deserves exclusivity on its own inventions. The EU’s anti-capitalistic hubris ought to embarrass them. But they smugly think the reason they can’t innovate is Apple’s fault, not their sticking with the mindset of East Germans in 1970.

(Or maybe if we’re lucky, the EU wouldn’t get AirPods, or maybe get AirPods without the pairing feature, and the rest of the world would).
How do AirPods seamlessly connect to iOS and no other headphones can
now why is that what is the secret

How can a 3rd party headphone maker connect to iOS better if apple don’t allow it
So how can they do it
 
You do understand that Costco is a store not an operating system maker?
You understand that vendors enter into a business relationship with their hosts.
There is a difference
what makes them similar is each Vendor has rules to follow if one want to do business with them.
the wsj is that not to do with the financial sector in New York and is that not in America
A news outlet that reports globally and is influential.
it could be viewed as anti apple if you have
A attachment to a company that just sells things
Don’t buy that.
 
Don’t you mean the Wall Street journal
That’s in this country
Headquarters1211 Avenue of the Americas New York City, New York 10036, U.S.
CountryUnited States

There aren’t any companies on MR complaining
WSJ is an influential news outlet reporting on global news, with some honest critiques about the eu.
 
How do AirPods seamlessly connect to iOS and no other headphones can
now why is that what is the secret

How can a 3rd party headphone maker connect to iOS better if apple don’t allow it
So how can they do it

Why didn’t headphone manufacturers come up with better pairing and take it to the standards bodies? If it’s a part of the Bluetooth standard Apple would adopt it.
 
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All of my Bluetooth devices connect seamlessly to iOS.

Apple allows it. Device driver kit.
So does most cars what’s your point caller?
It’s Bluetooth that’s why it connects
Unless apple disables it then most pieces of Bluetooth enabled kit will connect to it regardless
What’s your point
 
Exactly. Apple doesn’t treat any third party badly.
The only point you have proven is this
Because it’s standard Bluetooth apple is not stopping anyone from connecting to the iPhone but if they want to properly connect with iOS devices then they have no chance because apple then restricts that for their own products thus giving themselves a deliberately advantage over the competition
Hence the DMA
 
You understand that vendors enter into a business relationship with their hosts.

what makes them similar is each Vendor has rules to follow if one want to do business with them.

A news outlet that reports globally and is influential.

Don’t buy that.
Yes but there is a big difference from entering into business with a shop
Than apple regarding 3rd party products on the iOS platform because on the iOS platform you are treated like a 2nd class citizen compared with apples own products in regards to iOS connectivity

what you mean is an American news outlet is sticking up for the American company against the big bad EU for having the audacity to tell apple to let 3rd parties have better access to to the operating system
 
The only point you have proven is this
Because it’s standard Bluetooth apple is not stopping anyone from connecting to the iPhone but if they want to properly connect with iOS devices then they have no chance because apple then restricts that for their own products thus giving themselves a deliberately advantage over the competition
Hence the DMA
“Properly”?

Apple invents a new, better way to connect devices, and now not only are they not allowed to keep their own invention to themselves, but now Apple’s way becomes the only proper way to do it?

The entitlement is off the charts.
 
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“Properly”?

Apple invents a new, better way to connect devices, and now not only are they not allowed to keep their own invention to themselves, but now Apple’s way becomes the only proper way to do it?

The entitlement is off the charts.
But again how has that helped when it’s only their products that have access to it
So here is the issue
Why have 3rd parties on your platform and then treat them like 2nd class citizens
 
Yes but there is a big difference from entering into business with a shop
There isn't that much of a difference. The seller still has to enter into some sort of agreement.
Than apple regarding 3rd party products on the iOS platform because on the iOS platform you are treated like a 2nd class citizen compared with apples own products in regards to iOS connectivity
No, that doesn't happen. This is just made up.
what you mean is an American news outlet is sticking up for the American company against the big bad EU for having the audacity to tell apple to let 3rd parties have better access to to the operating system
An impartial influential business reporting outlet making some observations about the EU. One could write a letter to the editorial board if they disagree with the assessment rather than telling a fellow poster the outlet is wrong.
 
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