again a good reason to remove this from the forum of an individual’s choice. Give them a cash incentive not to.
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Apple Asks All U.S. Employees to Share Vaccination Status, Still No Mandate
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Except motorized transportation provides a benefit that vastly outweighs the cost. COVID provides zero benefit so the ratio of cost/benefit is infinite.
the point isn't really you sticking with your personal doctor's medical opinion. it is that you are spreading dangerous and indeed potentially deadly misinformation online (that there is no reason for one to be vaccinated if they have already had covid) and appealing to an authority (your doctor, who you've claimed also happens to be an expert immunologist) without providing any evidence to that authorities expertise, or indeed even existence.
For how long? Another year? Two? What do you think is Apple’s motivation to get a significant number of their workforce back into the office, maybe by the end of the year? Personally, I think it has to do with productivity and security. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe they just don’t like having an almost empty Apple Park?
You choose to get into a car, you dont choose to get a deadly virus.
false equivalence for 500 alex.
I often wonder why someone can be so aggressive about another’s personal choice to be hesitant about the vaccine.
Despite multiple linking, you haven’t debunked much of anything, nor you begun to approach the other 90% of the linked studies. You referenced, 7-8 studies out of 75+. You can’t refute 6 studies and clap your hands and say “hah, your dumb for being hesitant”
You’re position is clear, as marked by the aggressive demeanor in your post, you do not respect people who have hesitancy to this vaccine. So much so that you will aggressively combat them for their own choice.
Am I aggressively telling others they are wrong for taking the vaccine? No, I respect their choice.
Here, I’m just defending my own viewpoint with over 75+ linked studies. And you do not respect this. You do not respect my choice. You’ve blanketed everything as ‘misinformation’ after reviewing just a fraction of what I presented.
Are you tired from moving those goalposts yet?
The most I said was my doctor said something to me for my case.
You seem awfully programmed to argue against something you're more comfortable arguing against, instead of actually listening to what someone is saying.
Might want to look into that.
Their motivation is to justify that billion dollar palace they built.
As far as productivity, I can only go by my own university, I can't speak for Apple or anyone else, but when we went to work from home, productivity stayed the same (we could still do 100 percent of our job at home, supporting a vmware environment) and sickness call ins went down by 1/3.
Not everyone at Apple can work from home, but I bet a lot of them could.
My employer wanted me to return without any mask or vaccination mandate in place. I immediately went to my Dr and got a WFH extension through HR. can’t be around people that have no interest in protecting others.
The lie. You implied you were done with this.
Obviously, you couldn’t fight off your own weakness.
You aren’t defending anything. You keep throwing links around like they vaccinate you from truth, but can’t defend them individually. Nobody is interested in addressing everything at once when it’s already clear that most of the individual pieces don’t stand up to scrutiny.
Heck, you can’t even clarify why you’ve included some of those links, let alone defend them.
Here you presented no data and attacked the speaker. I will not respond to this.
I did not move any goalposts nor did i argue against anything.
I merely gave you the opportunity to back up your extraordinary claim in order to convince us that it is not misleading and deceptive nonsense, which you have refused to do
no surprise there, we await your next wall of text of the same nonsensical misinformation and refusal to engage anyone who actually tries to refute your points
You wanted me to doxx my doctor.
Everything else is just your post hoc face saving justification.
You have provided no data, and instead decided to attack me personally. I will not engage.
I didn't want you to doxx your doctor. as I've already explained, I was giving you the opportunity to back up your claim. I'm not post hoc justifying anything. my intention should have been clear the entire time
that’s not a personal attack. it’s a prediction based on your pattern of behaviour
Attack is a bit melodramatic, don’t you think? Especially for someone willing to misattribute and repeatedly refuse to correct, quotations. Criticize? Sure. I’ve been following your discussion across at least two threads and seen you keep copying the same manifesto. I’ve watched @hop patiently engage you in detail, while you complain that they’ve only taken the time to systematically disassemble and educate you (and us) on some starting percentage of your copy pasta.
I don’t have time to put that effort into your whole word jumble, so I’ve been going through a little at a time. You don’t like that either. You say:
but then refuse to explain your innuendos well enough to be argued with. Must simply be because you can’t defend them, so you simply imply things and hide behind the sheer number of disembodied links you try to bury the discussion in.
You don’t respond to data either. For example, when presented with analysis of the data behind your Iceland link, you fully ignore the response. I show you how very wrong your OSHA comments are, and you ignore it.
OSHA had requirements for mandated vaccines reporting in place, it is now revolked. Was I wrong?
There still remains dozens studies you didn’t address, and points. Until you can fully and unequivocally refute them, there is no ground to criticize me or others (be an apple employee) right to be hesitant for this vaccine.
I am all open ears to some other data you wish to discuss.