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Yep, agreed. You do what's best for you, I'll do the same.

Threatening cancellation or wishing death upon people who don't make the same choices seems rather tyrannical to me.
I haven't seen anybody wish death, other than citing some basic information about disease severity of unvaccinated vs vaccinated. Those who elect to not be vaccinated however, might be banned from certain large venues, like concerts, Broadway shows, etc.
 
Yep, agreed. You do what's best for you, I'll do the same.

Threatening cancellation or wishing death upon people who don't make the same choices seems rather tyrannical to me.

Your victimhood is showing. Spreading misinformation, then hiding behind a "doxx" claim (surely, if this doctor is notable as you claim, that doctor will already have been quoted elsewhere) is what keeps a pandemic going.
 
I haven't seen anybody wish death, other than citing some basic information about disease severity of unvaccinated vs vaccinated. Those who elect to not be vaccinated however, might be banned from certain large venues, like concerts, Broadway shows, etc.
Have you been on Reddit, Twitter, or any other mainstream social media platform in the past year? It’s omnipresent.
 
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I haven't seen anybody wish death, other than citing some basic information about disease severity of unvaccinated vs vaccinated. Those who elect to not be vaccinated however, might be banned from certain large venues, like concerts, Broadway shows, etc.
Early on, there were several posts wishing unvaccinated people would hurry up and go six feet under so life could return to normal. Also a post from a rock tosser involving shooting people. I don't know if the moderators have deleted them or what.

On the latter, I would suggest that absent accommodations, banning attendance leads to banning other things which becomes a tool for blackmail/because-I-said-so policy. I don't think the goal should be to "otherize" people. That sort of thing never turns out well.
 
Your victimhood is showing. Spreading misinformation, then hiding behind a "doxx" claim (surely, if this doctor is notable as you claim, that doctor will already have been quoted elsewhere) is what keeps a pandemic going.
"Hello, Mr Williams. Welcome to Tuskegee. We want you to participate in a study. If you don't then we respect your decision, though you might not like living here very much as a consequence. You have beautiful kids, by the way!

By the way, we'd like the name of your doctor so we can have a little...talk with him. Just to verify a few things, of course. Routine."
 
We know for 100% fact this was man made. I know Hollywood and mainstream media don’t like people to talk about these things because it doesn’t help anyones agenda, but it’s true.
Is this inside information that only you and a few others have access to? Or do can you put up some links to back this up?
Have you been on Reddit, Twitter, or any other mainstream social media platform in the past year? It’s omnipresent.
No, I should have clarified I was talking about MacRumors only.
Early on, there were several posts wishing unvaccinated people would hurry up and go six feet under so life could return to normal. Also a post from a rock tosser involving shooting people. I don't know if the moderators have deleted them or what.
Hopefully those posts were removed.
On the latter, I would suggest that absent accommodations, banning attendance leads to banning other things which becomes a tool for blackmail/because-I-said-so policy. I don't think the goal should be to "otherize" people. That sort of thing never turns out well.
It's already happening at least for now. Broadway is requiring proof of vaccination and a covid test with the last 72 hours. (Some) Companies are requiring proof of vaccination to continue employment (of course there are always exemptions). But unvaccinated probably won't be allowed within offices, or might have to sign liability waivers.
 
"Hello, Mr Williams. Welcome to Tuskegee. We want you to participate in a study. If you don't then we respect your decision, though you might not like living here very much as a consequence. You have beautiful kids, by the way!

By the way, we'd like the name of your doctor so we can have a little...talk with him. Just to verify a few things, of course. Routine."

that is not even remotely what this is

though i think this comment perhaps belies the truth that your opinion has nothing to do with an imaginary doctor but rather because you have bought in to a rich fantasy version of the world
 
Well, I'd say in this thread alone there is a contigent, rather one sided, who wants people to die because of this. And they are rather vocal about it.

Then they pretend they can't understand why I won't doxx my doctor.
You'll have to cite an example of people wanting people to die....not supporting mask mandates or vaccine mandates isn't wanting people to die. That's an incredibly fallacious argument.
 
You'll have to cite an example of people wanting people to die....not supporting mask mandates or vaccine mandates isn't wanting people to die. That's an incredibly fallacious argument.
I was referring to people who would say things like (paraphrased) "I wish the anti-vaxxers would hurry up and all die so we can get back to normal."
 
absolutely hilarious!

when you thought they were on the other side you wanted a citation

then you realize they are on your side and you take them at their word!?!
People wishing death on anyone is disgusting. The problem is wishing anti-vaxxers would die is not the same thing as someone claiming because some people oppose mask mandates and vaccine mandates they are wanting people to die. I have seen both on this forum. Those are not at all the same thing. It has nothing to do with sides. It's common decency that seems to be failing in our society.
 
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People wishing death on anyone is disgusting. The problem is wishing anti-vaxxers would die is not the same thing as someone claiming because some people oppose mask mandates and vaccine mandates they are wanting people to die. I have seen both on this forum. Those are not at all the same thing. It has nothing to do with sides. It's common decency that seems to be failing in our society.

fair enough. i can see that distinction. i misread your comment

it certainly does seem that people who oppose mask and vaccine mandates actually want people to die, or at the very least don’t care that people are dying

really what’s worse? wishing people death online or actually contributing to deaths in the real world?
 
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fair enough. i can see that distinction. i misread your comment

it certainly does seem that people who oppose mask and vaccine mandates actually want people to die, or at the very least don’t care that people are dying

really what’s worse? wishing people death online or actually contributing to deaths in the real world?
One is clearly worse....we are in a post vaccine world. Anyone who chooses can get the vaccine which is 99.999% effective at stopping death and 99.99% effective at stopping hospitilizations. No one is wishing death or contributing other than the person who makes the individual choice not to get the vaccine. I understand kids can't get it yet (only a matter of time, and honestly kids (under 18) are statistically more at risk from the flu then covid in terms of death) and there is a small group of adults who can't get the vaccines due to other health issues. They need to do their best to protect themselves the same way they have over the last year and a half. IMO Government roll has ended in this pandemic and it's up to the individuals to do what they feel is best for themselves and it's no one elses business. Get the vaccine or get covid...those are really the two options at this point since this Delta spreads so dang easy.
 
it's up to the individuals to do what they feel is best for themselves and it's no one elses business.

this here is the issue. it’s not about just protecting yourself but also those around you

it is absolutely the business of anyone you come in to contact with whether or not you pose a risk to them

if one doesn’t want to get vaccinated that’s fine. but they should both remain isolated for the protection of others and stop spreading dangerous and deadly misinformation on the internet
 
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Hard to believe that post is still standing. I’m sure there are legitimately people who can’t get the Vaccine but what is a company to do when non-vaccinated mix with vaccinated At company HQ?
 
It’s interesting how many people post “Angry” tags every time they read something they don’t like, as if the laws of physics and biology will change just because they are angry.

I suppose this was inevitable when educators told us we must respect feelings rather than respecting facts.
 
this here is the issue. it’s not about just protecting yourself but also those around you

it is absolutely the business of anyone you come in to contact with whether or not you pose a risk to them

if one doesn’t want to get vaccinated that’s fine. but they should both remain isolated for the protection of others and stop spreading dangerous and deadly misinformation on the internet
And that's where we disagree, and that's okay. Since essentially anyone at risk can get the vaccine, I'm done worrying about other people. If they don't want to protect themselves that's on them.
 
And that's where we disagree, and that's okay. Since essentially anyone at risk can get the vaccine, I'm done worrying about other people. If they don't want to protect themselves that's on them.

children under 12, who are not yet eligible for vaccination, are ending up in hospital

your cool with killing children?
 
children under 12, who are not yet eligible for vaccination, are ending up in hospital

your cool with killing children?
Less then 180 kids with under the age of 12 have died of covid of a sub population of nearly 45 million. Of the kids that have died 99% had prior health issues. I say that not to say I'm okay with kids dying. Those lives matter, but those are known as outliers. We can't prevent all death. 400+ kids die a year from the typical seasonal flu but schools arn't shutting down or mandating masks. It's sadly part of life. No I'm not cool with kids dying, no one is, but you don't make policy on outliers

If you want to prevent all deaths, there is lots of other things you can puruse. I better see you outside the courthouse demanding we mandate a 30 mph speed limit across the nation because way way more kids die of car accidents then covid. If we lower speed limits crashes would be less severe and less common due to more reaction time.

This "your cool with killing kids argument" is a ****** bad faith argument that I am so sick because it has no basis in the data.
 
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