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Odd, since pretty much every government on the planet has sued Microsoft for their weasel-ish business practices.

I bet this fantasy world in which you live is really nice. Does it have tangerine trees and marmalade skies?

I'm not what I would call a "Steve Jobs fan." I'm definitely what you would call "not a Bill Gates fan." That said, your claims about Jobs are slanderous, ridiculous, and reek of stupidity.

Go back to watching your Steve Ballmer YouTube videos.

Can't read? I said "him" (as in Bill Gates). *Facepalm*

Get back under that rock you've been in. Don't forget the tin foil on the way out....I mean in.
 
Can't read? I said "him" (as in Bill Gates). *Facepalm*

Bill Gates is Microsoft. Just as Steve Jobs is Apple.

Bill Gates money is from Microsoft.

Your complete non-grasp of the obvious is frightening.

I think all your face palms are killing your brain cells...
 
Does the article comment on all the drugs Steve used to take?

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Steve isn't the only one suffering from narcissism... Michael Dell, Bill Gates, in fact just about every CEO of any large company in the world, oh, and EVERY politician who has ever lived... Nope, he's certainly not alone... ;)
 
Bill Gates is Microsoft.

Maybe to some haters.

To the rest of us, Gates is the retired former CEO of Microsoft, who, as Fortune Magazine put it:

"Gates without Microsoft

Ah, retirement. Time to kick back, relax, and rethink philanthropy, learn biochemistry, eradicate malaria and develop drought-resistant crops.
...
With all he did at Microsoft, Gates has a tough act to follow. "Bringing personal computing to billions has totally changed the world, and it's changed it, net-net, way for the better," says Myhrvold. "So even before you look at what his foundation has done for Africa or for the poor, he's already done more for the good of the world than essentially anyone else in our lifetimes."

http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/20/technology/gates_after_microsoft.fortune/index.htm

It's an interesting read...unless your mind is closed.



Bubba, that's no kitty - that's GrandMa or GrandPa Cleric....
 
Maybe to some haters.

To the rest of us, Gates is the retired former CEO of Microsoft, who, as Fortune Magazine put it:

"Gates without Microsoft

Ah, retirement. Time to kick back, relax, and rethink philanthropy, learn biochemistry, eradicate malaria and develop drought-resistant crops.
...
With all he did at Microsoft, Gates has a tough act to follow. "Bringing personal computing to billions has totally changed the world, and it's changed it, net-net, way for the better," says Myhrvold. "So even before you look at what his foundation has done for Africa or for the poor, he's already done more for the good of the world than essentially anyone else in our lifetimes."

http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/20/technology/gates_after_microsoft.fortune/index.htm

It's an interesting read...unless your mind is closed.




Bubba, that's no kitty - that's GrandMa or GrandPa Cleric....


What? How dare you use logic and reason on Lagunasol. His argument has been torn up so many times and yet he rambles on about something ever other post. It's almost entertaining if it wasn't so pitiful.
 
What? How dare you use logic and reason on Lagunasol. His argument has been torn up so many times and yet he rambles on about something ever other post. It's almost entertaining if it wasn't so pitiful.

It's like there's a small group of Fox News commentators who've set up shop here....

Strident negative posts, repeating discredited "facts", launching personal attacks if they can't debate a poster's content....

What's next, a thread that Bill Gates' birth certificate was forged? A claim that Windows 7 will euthanize your grandparents?
 
It's like there's a small group of Fox News commentators who've set up shop here....



I think your mixing up the facts a little here. A little too much IMO.

With all he did at Microsoft, Gates has a tough act to follow. "Bringing personal computing to billions has totally changed the world, and it's changed it, net-net, way for the better," says Myhrvold. "

Please. Repeating this ridiculous fairy tale of "Microsoft bringing computing to the masses" over and over again doesn't make it any truer. It was a large bunch of companies, mainly from Silicon Valley, that did that. Singling out MS is plain ignorant and bending the facts. There have always been others with similar products around. Similar office suites, similar operating systems, similar mice. Without Microsoft some other OS would be on our computers now, with very similar features. We might even have a better user experience and/or cheaper computers, since MS has been obstructing innovation and milking the market with its business practices for a long time now. No one knows.


So even before you look at what his foundation has done for Africa or for the poor, he's already done more for the good of the world than essentially anyone else in our lifetimes

I'm in tears. No one doubted the fact that Bill Gates is giving a lot of money to the poor. Does that make him a better person? No. That is the point that was being made. I wonder why you don't see that. It's really obvious, you know.... The whole idea of business owners milking society with monopolies and bad business practices and later giving it to the poor benevolent-farm-owner-anno-1830-style reeks. Even more, when these business owners keep so much for themselves that they don't even notice they have given anything at all.
 
It's like there's a small group of Fox News commentators who've set up shop here....

Strident negative posts, repeating discredited "facts", launching personal attacks if they can't debate a poster's content....

What's next, a thread that Bill Gates' birth certificate was forged? A claim that Windows 7 will euthanize your grandparents?

I've notice the difference since Core2Duo. It's no fun posting here anymore. PPC times seemed more benign.

Let the personal attacks ensue...

s.
 
Strident negative posts, repeating discredited "facts", launching personal attacks if they can't debate a poster's content....

Aiden, if Bill Gates is your patron saint, more power to you. Knock yourself out. Aligning yourself to strike1555's juvenile nonsense, however, does you no favors.

I'm still waiting to hear strike1555 explain what Steve Jobs stole from Bill Gates. And how organ transplants are evil.

*crickets*
 
If Jobs is a liberal an attack from a Murdoch run business does not surprise me in the least,if he is that is.


I just hope the finished article gives Woz some credit...the bits he is to humble to dispute about the early years with Jobs etc.
 
Al Gore didn't invent the Internet, Bill Gates invented the Internet

(title is a bit tongue in cheek, please)

Please. Repeating this ridiculous fairy tale of "Microsoft bringing computing to the masses" over and over again doesn't make it any truer.

I think that you should step back a bit, and look at the history.

First, Apple's "Gucci computing" hasn't been a factor for ages - the "masses" can't afford the Apple tax.

What "bringing computing to the masses" really means is "bringing the Internet to the masses". Very few people "compute", but almost everybody surfs, does e-commerce, e-banking, e-learning, e-*.

In spite of their faults (and there were many), Windows and Internet Explorer did bring the Internet to the masses.

In the early 1990's the World Wide Web (and it actually hadn't even been named that at the time) was a nightmare of barely compatible browsers and HTTP servers. Each proprietary UNIX or mainframe OS had it's own browser and HTTP server, with little quirks in rendering and display.

Windows and IE became the "lingua franca" of the early web. A large user base with a "universal" browser. Without a common browser, e-commerce would not have taken off - but, when it developed that "all windows users have X for a browser" it did take off.

Yes, it was flawed - but it was what launched the web that we know today.


I'm in tears. No one doubted the fact that Bill Gates is giving a lot of money to the poor. Does that make him a better person? No.

I don't think I need to quote any more. If you look at the work of the Gates Foundation - it is not about "giving money to the poor".

It is about education and structural improvements so that the poor can help themselves.

What's the Apple philanthropy doing with its $40G in the bank?
 
Windows and IE became the "lingua franca" of the early web.

And fortunately for humankind, MS failed in its attempt to make the Internet a proprietary Microsoft playground with IE.

(Thank you Firefox! And Web designers who no longer kowtow to IE non-standards-by-design.)
 
Nice personal attack, since you can't debate my content.

"Personal attack?" Seriously? I thought you'd be honored by that. :rolleyes:

What content would you like me to debate? Bill Gates has given tons of money to charity. Fact. Bill Gates' tons of money came from Microsoft. Fact. Microsoft are among the greatest corporate weasels of our generation (not per me, per courts of law all over the globe). Fact. Hence Bill Gates' charity work was funded by weasels. Fact.

Would you like to debate my content?

As for your content, are there any specific points you made that I disagreed with, aside from your obvious adulation of Gates and my scorn? Aside from your virtual high-fiving of strike1555, I'm not sure where you and I disagree on this particular topic other than on our opinions of Bill Gates the Benevolent Dictator.
 
and educate yourself on grammar please.. go finish high school maybe?

hmmm.....you are right; that post was just rife with grammar mistakes. Just chock full of them. In any event, thanks for addressing the points in the post itself and not resorting to (sadly, in this case, incorrect) ad hominem attacks.
 
Please. Repeating this ridiculous fairy tale of "Microsoft bringing computing to the masses" over and over again doesn't make it any truer. It was a large bunch of companies, mainly from Silicon Valley, that did that. Singling out MS is plain ignorant and bending the facts. There have always been others with similar products around. Similar office suites, similar operating systems, similar mice. Without Microsoft some other OS would be on our computers now, with very similar features. We might even have a better user experience and/or cheaper computers, since MS has been obstructing innovation and milking the market with its business practices for a long time now. No one knows.




I'm in tears. No one doubted the fact that Bill Gates is giving a lot of money to the poor. Does that make him a better person? No. That is the point that was being made. I wonder why you don't see that. It's really obvious, you know.... The whole idea of business owners milking society with monopolies and bad business practices and later giving it to the poor benevolent-farm-owner-anno-1830-style reeks. Even more, when these business owners keep so much for themselves that they don't even notice they have given anything at all.

Agreed.

Bill Gates will get respect when his billions got to build Water Infrastructure(s) for the regions he chooses for investing.

(title is a bit tongue in cheek, please)



I think that you should step back a bit, and look at the history.

First, Apple's "Gucci computing" hasn't been a factor for ages - the "masses" can't afford the Apple tax.

What "bringing computing to the masses" really means is "bringing the Internet to the masses". Very few people "compute", but almost everybody surfs, does e-commerce, e-banking, e-learning, e-*.

In spite of their faults (and there were many), Windows and Internet Explorer did bring the Internet to the masses.

In the early 1990's the World Wide Web (and it actually hadn't even been named that at the time) was a nightmare of barely compatible browsers and HTTP servers. Each proprietary UNIX or mainframe OS had it's own browser and HTTP server, with little quirks in rendering and display.

Windows and IE became the "lingua franca" of the early web. A large user base with a "universal" browser. Without a common browser, e-commerce would not have taken off - but, when it developed that "all windows users have X for a browser" it did take off.

Yes, it was flawed - but it was what launched the web that we know today.




I don't think I need to quote any more. If you look at the work of the Gates Foundation - it is not about "giving money to the poor".

It is about education and structural improvements so that the poor can help themselves.

What's the Apple philanthropy doing with its $40G in the bank?

Without The Apache Foundation the Web would have been DOA.
 
Microsoft are among the greatest corporate weasels of our generation (not per me, per courts of law all over the globe.

Please enumerate these courts "all over the globe".

Have fun. There are 195 (or so) countries in the world, so per your earlier claim that most of them have sued Microsoft you have a *lot* of typing to do.
 
only on macrumors...

How does an attack piece on Steve Jobs become a referendum on the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation? If you don't like the article address it specifically; attacking Gates to make yourself feel better is childish. ALL upper echelon corporations are weasels and backstabbers. It's the nature of the business.

Also being a billionaire doesnt minimize Gates' charitable accomplishments whatsoever. There are hundreds of billionaires not doing anything remotely close to what he's doing. In addition to the money, he's using his fame to to attract attention to forgotten places. How many celebrities harness their stardom for altruistic causes?

It's one thing to be an Apple fan and enjoy their products. But certain members here are on some crazy crusade against any negative apple news or seemingly disparaging stories about their infallible leader. If you're not on their marketing team, it boarders on lunacy. :rolleyes:
 
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