Exactly. Lowest class jobs are very unpopular in better developed countries. And more and more on the brink of extinction.
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Exactly. Lowest class jobs are very unpopular in better developed countries. And more and more on the brink of extinction.
And what? Would sky be falling down? NO.
Market would find new price/volume level and things would go further. People would not dump phones every other year and keep it year or two longer. Apple cash hoards would be a bit reduced, China would be forced to manage its local economy other way as other produces would follow and would not be able to say more There would be no Christmas without us.
Globe would not stop spinning.
It will forever be the irony of history how the capitalist greed led to the rise of China. But at least the people all of a sudden have issues with it, now.
I just read the first paragraph about nationalism on wikipedia and it sounds pretty good to me. It seems like all countries would want to aspire to nationalism, unless they seek to be a vassal state of some other nation and have little national identity.
If Apple is abiding by the laws then the anger should be directed towards those who make tax laws. If Apple truly is cheating and not paying the tax as required by law then they should be punished.
But they shouldn’t “pay more” just because they’re a collection of some of the worlds brightest and smartest people who figured out how to game the tax code.. Fix the real problem which is the tax law.
Have Apple and the other corporations agreed to not lobby against fixing the tax law?
The person I replied to was implying that few would want to work in an Apple factory in the US. My rhetorical question disputed his thesis.
That’s not going to work with one of the biggest publicly traded companies in the world of capitalism. It’s expected to grow, and keep growing.
Losing 30-40% of its customer base plus keeping the profits in check, is like to see that business plan in detail.
On the other hand, once you get rid of stocks and shareholders you might have a shot. Until then, unlikely.
It’s exact what China is working on. Nationalism worked terrible for us Germans, a while ago. We learned some lessons there. But sure feel free to pursue that route instead of learning from history. Nationalism is clearly what holds is back but that’s a longer discussion for another day. Enjoy your journey.
Yup. And I posted to point out the obvious common knowledge. In developed countries low class jobs are not appreciated. Several folks here even described the manufacturing of electronics here as slave labour.
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I am Canadian and I would say most "Americans and other Westerners" do not "love socialism" or China. People in Western countries lose jobs to China and for most Westerners "socialism" means universal healthcare and unemployment insurance (human rights issues not political issues).
Yeah. Show me one item made in US that is not overpriced for what it is. The items I can think of off the top of my head are Tesla, McIntosh, Airstream, and Gibson Guitars
Please provide me with an example where America was claiming that they are a "developing country" in the past 70 years.
Thank you in advance.
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Yeah, especially their national security "law" includes the whole world whether they are residents of China or not. In addition, the "law" also covers anyone no matter where they are located.
Yup, they own the world...
you need to watch Bloomberg’s article on this specifically. The employment and economies of scale is NOT in favour of US citizens being paid well or even decently. I know you’re not ready to pay$200-500 premium on all models across the product lineup to suit American made lol.
a small auto-assembly plant maybe. But that’s it.
At the very least in this current situation, these workers will have great rest and time to even further themselves or potentially get paid while resting
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case NOT closed. That so calles computer - Apple Mac Pro Trash can is no longer “assembled” (never was Made: chips, motherboards, transistors, ssd, ram, NOT mad win USA) is no longer in production.
so which computer that Apple “makes” are you talking out of your tuba with here??
sing us a sweet song with a clarinet or flute that shows us which computer is made in the USA by Apple?
China and India have beef. Recently they were killing each other at altitude with sticks and clubs with nails in them and it seems India faired worse.
Likely a contributing factor as to why India are doing this... I don’t blame them.
According to news reports, 20 Indian soldiers lost their lives, but no one seems to know anything other than, there were Chinese casualties.
I’m sure there’s more to this story but if I had to decide which country to trust, it’s India all the way. How can anything this Communist state say be believed? I mean recently, didn’t they just come out with something like, ‘actually we got our Covid-19 death figures wrong. They should be increased by EXACTLY 50%’... Absolute joke.
There needs to be some serious introspection by western governments and corporations in particular (including Apple and Dell), to prevent this reliance on China for manufacturing. I mean in GB, Huawei are still on course to have involvement in 5G tech deployment. HOW UTTERLY SHORT SIGHTED! Changes must be made as swiftly as possible.
Likely a contributing factor as to why India are doing this... I don’t blame them.
According to news reports, 20 Indian soldiers lost their lives, but no one seems to know anything other than, there were Chinese casualties.
I’m sure there’s more to this story but if I had to decide which country to trust, it’s India all the way. How can anything this Communist state say be believed? I mean recently, didn’t they just come out with something like, ‘actually we got our Covid-19 death figures wrong. They should be increased by EXACTLY 50%’... Absolute joke.
There needs to be some serious introspection by western governments and corporations in particular (including Apple and Dell), to prevent this reliance on China for manufacturing. I mean in GB, Huawei are still on course to have involvement in 5G tech deployment. HOW UTTERLY SHORT SIGHTED! Changes must be made as swiftly as possible.
Great point! But I would offer a similar argument - do we direct our frustration at Apple (or their lobbyists) or at the government that allows and supports that kind of influence? Additionally, the need to "fix" the tax law depends on which side of that law you reside. As a citizen and a consumer, I think Apple could probably share a bit more of their success beyond all of the direct jobs and indirect supply chain benefits their products provide. But I also think we should direct our concern to the tax and lobby laws instead of a single organization.
I'll bet that won't kill sales when everyone in India revolts since they can't get their USA produced iPhone in India.
And where is this infrastructure in the US that can manufacture roughly 600,000 iPhones everyday (in addition to manufacturing other Apple products) that can turn on a dime and go significantly higher for new releases and Christmas?
The Chinese government invested many billions creating manufacturing infrastructure decades ago. One company has 400,000 employees in one location. How will that come about in the US.
And how much extra will you be willing to pay to have your phone manufactured by American Labor? Pick a number.
For a moment I thought you were talking about Huawei's CFO Meng Wanzhou being holed up in CANADA on silly political charges for breaking AMERICAN sanctions in Iran… or about Pompeo acting as if Hong Kong were a US state.
But then I realized you are just as clueless as most people about the extent to which the US controls this world, sets its own rules for everyone else, and finally makes itself an exemption to any of those rules. American exceptionalism, gravity does not apply to us.
Yeah, they should have learned from that Chinese spy Xuedan or Snowden or whatever his name was, about all those Chinese spy programs like Xkeyscore, Prism, Echeleon and all those Chinese operations. The Chinese even tapped Frau Merkel's phone! Or wait… was that…?
As for corona, the US is in absolutely no position to point fingers to anyone. They are the laughing stock of the world right now. I mean, how seriously effed up can it be?
But then I realized you are just as clueless as most people about the extent to which the US controls this world, sets its own rules for everyone else, and finally makes itself an exemption to any of those rules. American exceptionalism, gravity does not apply to us.
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Yeah, they should have learned from that Chinese spy Xuedan or Snowden or whatever his name was, about all those Chinese spy programs like Xkeyscore, Prism, Echeleon and all those Chinese operations. The Chinese even tapped Frau Merkel's phone! Or wait… was that…?
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As for corona, the US is in absolutely no position to point fingers to anyone. They are the laughing stock of the world right now. I mean, how seriously effed up can it be?
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India is well known for its Internet censorship and corruption. I think it was an opportunity to ban a search engine that doesn't filter out results like Google does.
I’m not from the US but I’d trust their figures more than I’d trust China’s.
What evidence makes your trust US's COVID 19 figure more than China's? Curious to know.
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Figures supplied by the Trump gang are as suspect as any authoritarian clinging to power.
But, in the US there are alternative sources that are reliable: select state governments, university researchers and a variety of news sources (not Fox).