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Apple Begins Seeding Mac OS X 10.6.3 Build 10D522 to Testers

I feel sorry for you guys with all the crashes and glitches you're dealing with! :eek: Personally the only SL issues I've had were kernel panics on 10.6.0 caused by an old driver and a weird graphical glitch where the login screen stays black after opening my MBP's lid. Nothing major or to the point where it's unusable though.
 
kmiahali said:
I've had 10.6.2 installed since it came out and i've been having minor problems. The screen doesn't resize sometimes and sometimes everything on the desktop disappears and then comes back a few minutes later.
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Yea, I'd say that was minor.;)
 
Terminal.app said:
I feel sorry for you guys with all the crashes and glitches you're dealing with! :eek: Personally the only SL issues I've had were kernel panics on 10.6.0 caused by an old driver and a weird graphical glitch where the login screen stays black after opening my MBP's lid. Nothing major or to the point where it's unusable though.
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You were able to continue 'using' your system throughout the kernel panic? A restart means its unusable until you do one if I'm not mistaken. This is of course nothing major?!;)
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 1.5; en-us; Archos5 Build/CUPCAKE) AppleWebKit/528.5+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.2 Mobile Safari/525.20.1)

For what we use our iMac for, Snow Leopard is issue free with 10.6.2 but any further updates are welcome.
 
Rocketman said:
Even though it is obviously a software bug and you have gone beyond your warranty, you should report it to Applecare. Those of us not on bug report lists have no other option, except perhaps sending an email directly to Steve Jobs.

There should be a second tier of bug report apparatus so Apple can catch the stuff real users experience. They probably would not want that to be public in the form of a blog or forum, however. :D

Rocketman
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Send them your feedback

www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html
 
When SL was about to be launched Apple made a big thing of how much HD space it would give us back. First thing to come out was they'd calculated in an odd way how much space would be saved. (In their favour) Now all that space is getting gobbled up by these whopping updates. I think .1 was about 75MB .2 about 500MB and now this Beastly 666MB! All that extra space looks like it was bloody well needed!

I looked at the link provided by some kind person of the fixes this covers but didn't see anything about the mysterious heat/reduced performance issues in Pros when using music apps or FW devices. Anyone in the know?
 
Henri Gaudier said:
When SL was about to be launched Apple made a big thing of how much HD space it would give us back. First thing to come out was they'd calculated in an odd way how much space would be saved. (In their favour) Now all that space is getting gobbled up by these whopping updates. I think .1 was about 75MB .2 about 500MB and now this Beastly 666MB! All that extra space looks like it was bloody well needed!
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Eehm... no, that is not how it works. This 666MB is not added to your OS installation, it is 666MB worth of files that are replacing older files.

With the exception of perhaps a handful of files, all the files in this updates are replacing older versions of files already on your system. If newer files are smaller than the ones they are replacing it could even be that after installing this update your OS takes up less space than before.

Furthermore, because the Combo updates are cumulative every next update will be bigger than the previous one because it also contains the fixes of the older updates. If some file was updated in 10.6.1 but not in 10.6.2 or 10.6.3 it will still be replaced by 10.6.3. That way you can update 10.6.0 right up to 10.6.11 (if that ever comes out) because it will contain all fixes since 10.6.0.
 
Thanks for that. It's been a source of annoyance for as long as I can remember having a computer. I felt the OS was getting more and more bloated with outdated code after each update; hence performance issues. Cheers.
 
Morris said:
Furthermore, because the Combo updates are cumulative every next update will be bigger than the previous one because it also contains the fixes of the older updates. If some file was updated in 10.6.1 but not in 10.6.2 or 10.6.3 it will still be replaced by 10.6.3. That way you can update 10.6.0 right up to 10.6.11 (if that ever comes out) because it will contain all fixes since 10.6.0.
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Urf. Worst part of these updates are waiting for the Combo Updates to download. At like 3kbps.
 
Bueller007 said:
Better yet, it only takes two minutes and zero dollars to sign up for an ADC account.
http://developer.apple.com/products/membership.html
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By not signing a NDA all these years I have been free to post here what I have heard from connected folks and make conclusions based on a variety of published and unpublished rumors.

Besides I am not crazy enough to use AOL or 10.6.2 in my life. It's my poor family members who were sucked into the Snow Leopard hype and suggested immediate upgrade by Apple who are ow suffering without basic access to mail.

Apple should really make sure the basics work.

BTW, AOL, please offer a free or minimal cost email forwarding service so folks can keep the AOL email they have had for years but employ alternate front ends such as Mail, Gmail, or whatever.

Rocketman
 
Rocketman said:
By not signing a NDA all these years I have been free to post here what I have heard from connected folks and make conclusions based on a variety of published and unpublished rumors.

Besides I am not crazy enough to use AOL or 10.6.2 in my life. It's my poor family members who were sucked into the Snow Leopard hype and suggested immediate upgrade by Apple who are ow suffering without basic access to mail.

Apple should really make sure the basics work.

BTW, AOL, please offer a free or minimal cost email forwarding service so folks can keep the AOL email they have had for years but employ alternate front ends such as Mail, Gmail, or whatever.

Rocketman
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I know you can configure Outlook to sync with AOL accounts as well as the email app for Android.
 
MikhailT said:
Seed Notes Posted for 10D522

Looks like there's a lot of crashes in Safari and Finder that's been fixed in 10.6.3....Actually there's fixes in every area. Looks to be more impressive than 10.6.2.
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Overall 10.6.2 has been a very stable operating system, however, the only problems I can reproduce are the ones that happen consistently. I think some of these problems occur when you complete a "procedure" a certain way. For example, I generally open iTunes then quickly safari, closely followed by Mail. If I then close iTunes for example, it can hang and I have to force quit. If iTunes hangs its pretty much done and my computer can't restart without a "forced" shut down.

//Cheers
 
I wonder if this will fix an issue I'm having on my 13" MBP. It sleeps if I tell it to in the menu, it sleeps if I close the lid; but it doesn't automatically go to sleep after the specified time, i.e. 10 minutes default while plugged in.

Anyone else having this issue?

Not really a big deal, since it sleeps (and stays asleep) when I tell it to, but I'd like everything to work as expected. Interestingly enough, if I have it wake up at a specific time and then go back to sleep, that works fine too.

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Also my MBP 15" for work doesn't sleep automatically either, but the other methods work. It's either a bug, or something that's running on both machines causing it. Hmmmm.......
 
Any word on if they've addressed all the samba/smb issues? It's been widely discussed on Apple discussion boards the issues of people trying to connect out to Windows samba shares but my issue is a little different.

I, and a few others (i.e. doesn't seem across the board), can no longer connect from our AppleTV's with XBMC to an smb share hanging off of a Snow Leopard box. I've tried all the tricks mentioned in the Apple boards but to no avail.

I'm hoping if they fix the other smb issue they'll fix this one as well. Can anyone out there verify if they've fixed this?
 
TuckBodi said:
Any word on if they've addressed all the samba/smb issues? It's been widely discussed on Apple discussion boards the issues of people trying to connect out to Windows samba shares but my issue is a little different.

I, and a few others (i.e. doesn't seem across the board), can no longer connect from our AppleTV's with XBMC to an smb share hanging off of a Snow Leopard box. I've tried all the tricks mentioned in the Apple boards but to no avail.

I'm hoping if they fix the other smb issue they'll fix this one as well. Can anyone out there verify if they've fixed this?
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There are several intermediate Apple OS levels that are particularly useful or stable. Who is going to document that? Who is going to make a mirror of that for people who need that functionality?

It will totally stimulate old, crippled, Mac hardware sales.

Old Macs have HIGH resale value.

Rocketman
 
polaris20 said:
I wonder if this will fix an issue I'm having on my 13" MBP. It sleeps if I tell it to in the menu, it sleeps if I close the lid; but it doesn't automatically go to sleep after the specified time, i.e. 10 minutes default while plugged in.

Anyone else having this issue?

Not really a big deal, since it sleeps (and stays asleep) when I tell it to, but I'd like everything to work as expected. Interestingly enough, if I have it wake up at a specific time and then go back to sleep, that works fine too.

EDIT

Also my MBP 15" for work doesn't sleep automatically either, but the other methods work. It's either a bug, or something that's running on both machines causing it. Hmmmm.......
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Do you happen to have Mozy installed?
 
Something I keep wishing they would add is a way to do a 'safe sleep'/hibernation as a sleep/shutdown option.
 
Rocketman said:
I have had problems in 10.6.2 in Mail checking the AOL imap server. This is a major issue. I am not a listed bugfixer so the only interaction I have had with Apple on this is via Applecare.

As always I strongly suggest NOT adopting 10.6 on a production or primary machine until it gets to 10.6.3, and even then listen for bad noises first.

It seems the Grandma version will not be till 10.6.4. Pretty sad for an OS major version where the primary driver was stability not features.

I hate 10.5, although 10.5.8 is at least somewhat stable finally. I love 10.4.11, and 9.2.2. :D And 4.2 on a RAMDISC based Mac+ :D :D

Rocketman
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Have to disagree with you there.

If it wasn't for the Mac Pro having this ICH10 bug (which is in 10.5!) then its been totally fine here on my "primary machines".

No kernel panics, no bugs that I can actually remember hindering my workflow, nothing.

One bug tho is that my Mac Pro or Macbook Pro is woken up by external USB devices when put to sleep, which is weird as.
 
Has anyone heard of this problem?

My Macbook cannot detect my Airport Extreme Base Station with Airport Utility's scan in 10.6.2. Because of this, I think, it cannot use the printer attached to the AEBS or find the remote speakers attached the Airport Express used for Airtunes.

The AEBS is the older saucer-shaped model, with FW revision 5.7. And it's not the network that's the problem; It is using the AEBS to reach the net without problems. 10.5.8 does not show this problem either.
 
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