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17 megawatts of rooftop power. Totally useless measure. 17 megawatts what? 17 megawatts per hour? how many productive hours per year? What we need to know is how many megawatthours per year the plant will produce, anything else is just juggling big, but meaningless numbers.
 
One can only wish they inaugurate the Jobs Auditorium by introducing new products and/or majorly revamped Mac Pros, iMacs etc etc.
 
You have no concept of Apple; now or then.
You have no concept of IBM; now or then.

At the time- IBM was principally a hardware company with very little interest in doing things "new & creative", & certainly almost no interest in doing things "artistic and beautiful".
The suits were into "safe", and "status quo".

The only "sweet irony" here is that YOU are posting about a company that is that is clearly not risk adverse, that removes ports & slims batteries in the pursuit of minimalistic beauty & has now created one of the most gorgeous buildings ever, with the stated purpose of creativity & collaboration- and claiming that it is what IBM was.

Just no.

I admire your attempt to teach the troll. But trolls are un-teachable.
 
The monument is ..interesting as is what Jobs railed against, the rest you read too much into. It is about tech, Apl is now the largest company market cap wise, interesting he literlly created what he hated. Apl is much worse than IBM ever was. Sweet irony

What irony? Jobs was against big companies that made crap just to make crap. He wasn't against big companies just because they were big. He was quite proud of his Campus II design because it believed it would enhance collaboration. I'm not as impressed with the current Apple lineup. It's a bit far to suggest any of it is crap. It needs improvement but it's not entirely useless.

How is Apple "worse" than what IBM ever was? What was bad about IBM? I don't really see the comparison b/c IBM had a rather short life in the consumer field. It's mostly been a B2B company, the exact opposite of Apple.
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One can only wish they inaugurate the Jobs Auditorium by introducing new products and/or majorly revamped Mac Pros, iMacs etc etc.

I hope not. Hoping not to wait until April or gasp! even later. I'll take a March release -- don't care about the location.
 
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Does one have to like the current apl to post here? I'm confused. I bought apl just like you. So I may have a different opinion of the company than you, that's ok. I should not have to explain why to you.
Of course you can post. And you don't have to explain why. But if your main reason to be here is to trash Apple, you'll end up on a lot of people's ignore lists. As soon as I post this, I'm planning to click your username and then click Ignore.
 
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No wonder prices on Apple products keep going up: Apple needs to pay for the Spaceship somehow.

2012 MacBook Pro 15" Retina (256 GB) at launch: $2199

2016 MacBook Pro 15" Retina (256 GB) at launch: $2399

This is despite the fact that the cost of technology has gone significantly.

For example, SSD now costs less then 1/6 of what it did in 2012.

Except Apple does not use your standard SSD's, they are the one of the best SSD's on the market and you cannot compare the two. Speeds are almost double.
 
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Ha .... Yup good call Steve. Look at you now. /smh
Ever clean that finger? Naughty...karma
This one is going to ruffle some feathers.
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Yup lovely quote's like...

"(about the iPhone) And boy, have we patented it!"
Steve Jobs, 2007.

So humble. Great vision LOL

Oh man ,that was soooo freaking long ago in tech.
Humble?
 
That price is about right if you factor in inflation, and that doesn't take into account R&D.

There were R&D costs as part of the first laptop as well right, dont want to double count that. Inflation you are right about, but in electronics costs typically go down. for example storage costs.
 
17 megawatts of rooftop power. Totally useless measure. 17 megawatts what? 17 megawatts per hour? how many productive hours per year? What we need to know is how many megawatthours per year the plant will produce, anything else is just juggling big, but meaningless numbers.

It's probably 17 MWp, which is Mega Watt peak, meaning all solar cells combined can yield a maximum electrical power of 17 MW if there is enough solar irradiation.
For California this should result in about 25 GWh per year.

Reason for them saying they have 17 MWpeak is that it is a quantity you can compare to other installations around the globe since the produced energy is highly dependent on the location of the system.
 
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One can only wish they inaugurate the Jobs Auditorium by introducing new products and/or majorly revamped Mac Pros, iMacs etc etc.
Since we now know that the auditorium will not be available until later this year, my guess is that Apple may try to use the venue for the customary September iPhone launch as the first publicly visible event, always their biggest announcement of the year.

I also assume that Apple will use the venue several times for internal events before some externally facing event, just to make sure the auditorium's systems are all working properly before committing to a widely broadcasted media event.
 
How is Apple "worse" than what IBM ever was? What was bad about IBM? I don't really see the comparison b/c IBM had a rather short life in the consumer field. It's mostly been a B2B company, the exact opposite of Apple.

When the Mac was released, Apple decided that their "enemy" was IBM (hence the target of the 1984 ad). Years later Guy Kawasaki admitted that they'd picked the wrong target. They didn't know it at the time but their real enemy even then was Microsoft.
 
Of course you can post. And you don't have to explain why. But if your main reason to be here is to trash Apple, you'll end up on a lot of people's ignore lists. As soon as I post this, I'm planning to click your username and then click Ignore.

That's fine people do cosplay too .
 
17 megawatts of rooftop power. Totally useless measure. 17 megawatts what? 17 megawatts per hour? how many productive hours per year? What we need to know is how many megawatthours per year the plant will produce, anything else is just juggling big, but meaningless numbers.

I've never seen megawatts or kilowatts measured any way but per hour, have you?
 
I've never seen megawatts or kilowatts measured any way but per hour, have you?

Well I have! Watts W (mW, kW, MW, GW, etc) is used to measure power, while WattHours Wh (mWh, kWh, MWh, etc..) is a measure of energy. That is a huge difference.
Also WattHours doesn't mean Watt per hour (W/h), but Watt times hour (W*h).
 
You have no concept of Apple; now or then.
You have no concept of IBM; now or then.

At the time- IBM was principally a hardware company with very little interest in doing things "new & creative", & certainly almost no interest in doing things "artistic and beautiful".
The suits were into "safe", and "status quo".

The only "sweet irony" here is that YOU are posting about a company that is that is clearly not risk adverse, that removes ports & slims batteries in the pursuit of minimalistic beauty & has now created one of the most gorgeous buildings ever, with the stated purpose of creativity & collaboration- and claiming that it is what IBM was.

Just no.

Same Iphone 4 years and counting , talk about conformity. Where is the courage? Removing the Headphone jack? do you really buy that? Some people in fact many people believe thin as a feature is ridiculous after a certain point. Some people believe in fact many people that color is not a tech feature. Especially when the thinner product made out of bendable material needs a cheap case to cover it.

Yes IBM created beige boxes and tried to restrict their BIOS, Apl walls people in to "apl only" connectors essentially locking them in and refuses to work with 3rd party repair facilities. In apl watch the use proritary version of Qi to lock people in to using official Apl chargers. At least at the time IBM computers did more, today Apl computers basically cease to exist and when they do they are behind in tech, replaced by a static-chicklet springboard driven mobile OS a shadow of OSX, does not even have a file sytem accesabile not theior pro version supporting more than 4 concurrent apps.

Apl is IBM in essence, conformity, lock-in , high prices , expensive repairs, and BORING.
yes Apl is wrse than the company Jobs gave a finger to..sweet irony
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To be fair, it was headline news and a hell of a show.
Ten years ago..a lifetime in tech meanwhile that patent made Android succeed, no problem. Apl at 12% globally...problem. 10 years ago...a decade ago.

To put that in perspective...after 2007 now 88% of the people on Earth eschew Apl and that number is growing daily. the LTE ipod touch phenomena is about done. Whats next?
 
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