Apple Car Development Speeds Up, 2019 Launch Date Targeted

Carplay is still relatively new. They just started building it into new cars last year. People don't buy a new car every year to get better support for their iPhones. I think you need to be a bit more patient on this one...

Carplay is still relatively new. They just started building it into new cars last year. People don't buy a new car every year to get better support for their iPhones. I think you need to be a bit more patient on this one...

Carplay is still relatively new. They just started building it into new cars last year. People don't buy a new car every year to get better support for their iPhones. I think you need to be a bit more patient on this one...

Since you replied three times, I guess I should respond :D

Look, I am totally patient. My point is that it will take time for carplay to take off. And it will therefore take time for Apple to learn and adjust. A normal car design cycle is about 4 years vs the iphone which is 2 years. I therefore think it could take a couple of cycles for this to really work its way through and that would put us out into 2023.

Hope that clarifies my point.
Hope that clarifies my point.
Hope that clarifies my point.

:p
 
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The i3 is a roughly $50k car. You're delusional if you think today's $35k Honda Accord will get less expensive over time.

With that being said, the price isn't the problem. BMW i3 suffers on their target range not meeting reality. When Apple steps in they better match what they claim or will face a wrath of negativity traditional auto corps never face.

2019 just means either models released in Sept 2018 and thus finalized by Sept 2017 or we don't see this until Sept 2020. We're near 2016, so Apple better have some big improvements in battery tech soon or the car will be nothing more than a glorified grocery store cruiser.

Porsche's 911 replacement just revealed leap frogs Tesla and its battery range is far superior.

http://www.porsche.com/international/aboutporsche/pressreleases/?pool=international-de&id=360138

Over a 500km driving range on a single charge. That should be Apple's target in range.

Speaking of Porsche, if the Apple Car is in the same price range than they would have to do a hell of a lot to convince me to purchase that over that Porsche design. Gorgeous!
 
adding a car isn't exactly making everything. I mean look at Samsung, now they make everything. Chips, ram, SSDs, toasters, fridges, washers and dryers, cameras, phones, tablets, tavs blu ray players, home theater etc etc etc etc. They seem to be doing alright with it
Touche.

Maybe it's just me being an old fart.
 
I wonder how I am going to drive up the stairs to the Genius Bar, and will we be able to change the tyres?
I am pretty confident to say that the battery will be firmly built in, not serviceable by the user. If I had loads of money, I would be tempted though.
 
That new 45 acre plot of land needs a large cube built on it to hold all the needed new employees now that Apple Campus 2 is full before it is even completed. Then do a major rehab and skyscraper on Apple Campus 1.
 
Even so, how many companies have found success by making everything. It's worked so well for Sony.
Sony never made 'everything' such as household appliances. Sony was all but killed by Samsung's copying and then 'dumping' tactics of the last ten or so years ago. Sony's top-of-the-line TVs are still amongst the best on the market.
 
when will they start factoring in coal plants as emissions, since they need to be charged? sorry for your feel good but electric cars have more of a "carbon footprint" than the gasoline engine. i guess we'll know when it isnt politically advantageous anymore...
Coal is virtually dead in America so this isnt accurate. Whatever was left has been rapidly converting to natural gas plants thanks to regulation. And locally produced natural gas is intrinsically better in all ways. Environmental and otherwise. The new more dramatic clean air regs that are going into effect ahortly will put the final kaibash on coal.
 
Apple if you do this, please mass produce them here in Upstate New York. Our beleaguered manufacturing region needs a technological boost.
 
They will release 3 trims.
1- Applecar LX with top speed of 16 mph. (targeted to your typical senior citizen)
2-Applecar EX-L with top speed of 64mph.
3-Applecar Magical edition with top speed of 128mph.
 
Not to mention Apple of the 1990s was a blip on the radar in corporate worth, influence and financial stability, let alone talent and vision moving forward.

Steve most certainly would have moved Apple into making this project a reality.
Didnt Mickey Drexler say Steve wanted to do a car? Who knows how serious he was but Apple is a company with $200B+ billion in revenues now. It will be pretty tough to continue grow that revenue base without branching outside of their current product line. Last year Tim Cook said iPhone would be Apple's main revenue driver for the next 5 years. Apple car is basically thinking what comes after iPhone. Perhaps Apple should be doing VR headsets and robots instead. But neither of those seem in their wheelhouse either.
 
I don't get this one from Apple.
You just can't achieve the "Apple difference" on something like a car. I don't see them re-inventing the car like they did with phones unless they don't make flying cars or the likes, and i don't see it possible.

I would be very happy to be proven completely wrong, and i'm pretty sure there some very smart people that is thinking this through very carefully.

Still, it's just a statistical thing, sooner or later they will make some big mistakes, just like anyone else in the history of human beings.
 
Honestly, I still don't buy it..it really makes NO sense. Having worked nearly a decade in the auto industry at the highest levels I cannot imagine why anyone without specific industry expertise or significant competitive advantage would want to enter what is a VERY low margin business. If apple DOES do this, the company IMHO would b a sell.

Now, if they are looking to be a major supplier of onboard OS's or communication and in car technologies well then that is a different story entirely.

Remember, we were supposed to get a TV too, and ACTUAL TV.. that too didn't bear out as fact (again another low low margin business)
 
Not this old trope again! :rolleyes: Only 39% of the electricity generated in the US is from coal and that number is going down.

Energy production is more efficient in a power plant than it is in a car engine. To use an example with an identical source fuel, burning natural gas in a power plant is about 60% efficient, meaning 40% of the energy of the fuel is lost in the energy production process. In a car, burning gas is less than 25% efficient, with the vast majority of the energy lost to heat. The larger more complex system at a power plant will always be far better at capturing waste heat than a tiny car engine. The increased efficiency means that even a car running purely on coal-generated electricity will emit carbon at the same rate as a gas car that gets 30 miles per gallon—which would be a significantly cleaner-than-average gas car.

Link for the full details.

BTW let me know when you can run a gas car on solar power!

2 questions: 1) The distribution process of such energy still has to be implemented and optimized. A LOT of energy is loss during the distribution process (from the power plant to the houses) nowadays.
2) are you taking into consideration that electrical cars must have specific batteries and components, which requires a huge amount of energy and materials for their production compared to a conventional combustion engine?
 
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