Yeah... Are you similarly concerned about "white on white" crime? That is, after all, predominant.
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Apple CEO Tim Cook Announces $100 Million Racial Equity and Justice Initiative Led by Lisa Jackson
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Yeah... Are you similarly concerned about "white on white" crime? That is, after all, predominant.
You can believe the organizations that they said will benefit will monitor them.
Social Media can be the death of a company.
Look a CrossFit.
The public at large will hold them accountable.
Tech money most definitely can't fix the whole problem but you need to start somewhere.
The first step to any recovery is the admission that, you in fact, do have a problem.
There are plenty of people that say there is not problem, but there is.
After 1967 and when Dr King was assassinated in 1968 we never had the dialog that this country should have had.
History has been rewritten o say the civil war was about states rights, but the Alexander Stephens VP of the confederacy, said in his cornerstone speech that it was about slavery and the natural order of things. That Black people needed to be slaves.
So you have people claiming that the confederate flag is some symbol of a great lost time. IT IS NOT!
The flag represents a society that was to be (I'll use Stephen's language) "built, it's foundation rests" on the principle that men are not equal.
The confederate flag, confederate moments, names on bases, etc. belong in polite society no more than a swastika belongs being displayed in polite society. It represents the same type of honor only to a different set of people.
So at least now we are having the dialog.
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When were laws passed that gave people of beauty more rights and those that were less comely less?
There were laws for 100+ years that took the rights of Black people in the US.
There is a difference. Please don't be obtuse.
What’s your point? White people arent the ones complaining, are they?
Last year there were about 2.500 black on black homicides and 2.800 white on white homicides while black people only represent 13% of the population and white people represent more than 50%.
Do you willfully ignore these statustics or are you simply not aware?
Agreed. And a lot of that training is geared towards battlefield mentality rather than peacekeeping.
I am white and am also nervous when dealing with the police.
No, my point is wondering why you are so concerned about black on black homicides. Are you even somewhat concerned about white on white homicides?
And please address my response (post# 121) to your previous post.
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I am from the US.
My experience with the police started at 13 when I was walking home in a predominately white area that I lived.
I was picedk up because, "I looked lost". (Walking while Black).
I wasn't lost.
I walked that way everyday.
When I told them where I lived, they laughed. They thought there was no possibility of me living there because I am Black.
They took me home and got the door slammed in their face by my grandparents.
I have been stopped more times than I can remember for BS.
"Your car" looks like one involved in illegal activity.
"You look like you have been involved in illegal activity."
"You don't have plates on your car." (New car and I have all the dealer paperwork and I still wound up in cuffs.)
I have never been to jail
I have never been charged with a crime.
I have never been arrested.
I have multiple degrees in engineering.
I have been in handcuffs on the side of the road or in the back of a police car more times than 10 white men will ever experience in their lives; just because I am Black.
And no I wasn't in high crime areas, unless you count the crime the police committed against me by violating my constitutional rights.
I never apply for a job, I'm not qualified for.
I have near been told, that I don't meet the qualifications in terms of skill.
I have been told that I was qualified to have the job but, "you just don't fit the team".
Yes, I've experienced racism; but I probably didn't want to work there anyway.
Obviously there are many factors, but some big ones are that African-Americans have a much higher poverty rate, and that it's much more concentrated poverty, as their poor on average live in much higher-density areas than do poor whites.
Partly due to the above, with a greater proportion of fathers being incarcerated, many thanks to excessively punitive laws that punish relatively minor repeat offenders or nonviolent drug crimes.
No need to wait for that while we also address the issues of police militarization, excessive use of force, excessively punitive laws, harsher treatment of blacks for similar offenses, disproportionate amounts of police contacts in similar situations, etc. etc.
You argueas if I had said that blacks are not being disadvantaged at all. I specifically said that I believe that blacks have to deal with unique issues us whites don’t have to deal with.
My point is that judging from the statistics, when controlling for the overall crime rate, especially homicides, blacks are not being killed by police at an outrageous rate like some people would have you believe.
I saw the protests/riots and read what BLM is posting on twitter and a lot of that is simply not true unless you want to argue that the statistics are faked.
Tim Cook is an excellent CFO and public relations guy'. Never looked at him as a technical guy at all. I suppose I'm a bit spoiled after watching Steve Jobs for so many years. He could get out on the stage and pretty much shoot from the hip and hit the mark every time. Tim, on the other hand, has to use a Teleprompter, and he's seldom convincing. Of course, this is my own opinion, but I've been watching Apple for a few decades.
Thanks for answering.
A lot of these stories are starting to come out more and more now and I must admit I wonder how much truth there is these stories. It's good to hear it 1st hand from yourself.. Obviously goes without saying that its wrong. I'm white and grew up in the states but currently live in the UK. From my perspective pre the current BLM movement, I wouldn't of said that race is that much of an issue in todays world in "western civilised countries". However, I suppose because I've never really witnessed or experienced the issues you have I suppose I'm sheltered or ignorant to it. It just doesn't really cross my mind.
Lets hope we get the change we all want! you'd like to think some of issues such as red lining and mortgage/banking applications should be a quick fix!
Yes, those are some of the reasons for sure. But why are blacks so much poorer? Is it all just the white peoples fault?
Asian Americans don’t seem to have this problem and they have experiences their fair share of discrimination themselves including the internment of Japanese Americans and the Chinese exclusion act.
I think the answer is somewhere in the middle. (Past) discrimination and the racism of -some- people is definitely an issue, but I think black culture is also partly to blame. Just look at rap music. Look at even wealthy rappers proudly claiming to “never pay child support”.
This stuff isn’t helping.
When I went to school, there was a very clever black kid at hour school that was constantly being harassed by other blacks for being “too white”.
I always felt a lot of black people at the school made just as much effort of excluding themselves from the white people as some white people made an effort to exclude them.
I agree with you on the militarization part but I imagine that’s hard to do, when everybody could potentially be armed. When don’t have this problem in Europe. Police are usually super chill and friendly here, almost too friendly sometimes.
I know it’s probably never gonna happen, but if both groups could just come together, both admit to the mistakes they have made and most importantly truely forgive each other instead of keeping to bring up past issues - that would be a beautiful thing.
The way I see it, this blaming white people for everything thing that’s going on right now is just going to further divide.
what
This is not proof. This is nothing.
whi cares what Marc Cuban says, he is no authority on the subject.
I highly doubt that regular police encounters or being pulled over is dangerous for a non criminal black person. How many unarmed blacks are killed per year after being pulled over? I am willing to bet the number is very low as according to the Washington post the total number of unarmed black people shot by police in 2019 was 9. The US has a population of more than 320.000.000 people.
I did read this, but it seemed to refer more to things like iPhones. How about other devices?
And as to manufacturing, would it not be possible to build some sub assemblies in the US?
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Detroit?
Hire a person just because of the race? Great idea! Then how about the others? E.g. the Asian? the Indigenous people? the Romaní etc.? They do not deserve to be given the jobs and special support? Or they even need to arrange protests so that can catch our eyes?
First of all, 9 unarmed black people were killed by police, not shot. Second, the fact that any unarmed people were killed is a disgrace.
But let's put police shootings aside. You can look at numerous studies that say black people are 20% more likely to be pulled over by police. Or that they're 4x more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession as whites. Or if you look at exonerations, black people are more likely to be wrongfully convicted. There's either racism there or just a bunch of coincidences that line up.
And one more thing, if you can at least admit that racism exists and that the vast majority of white people aren't on the receiving end of it, then by definition that's white privilege. White people like me are privileged to not have experienced any racist attacks in my 26 years of living.
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You can expect all you want. Mr. Cook and Apple will continue on with their advocacy!
Time to find and support another vendor. Godspeed on your quest!
Sounds like your math is on point. ~1.5 trillion dollar company... With over $200 billion in cash on hand... This initiative is $100 million dollars... Yep, sounds like there's no money left for product development.
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Yeah, it's not going to be easy. If a person is looking for the "company that fits his/her vaguely socially blind outlook", they'd better not go looking for anything from Google or Microsoft either. Good luck!
Well gee, Tim,y could take that 100 million and help pay for it, no? He’s all show. They donate money to say they did something but when there’s no results they can claim it’s not on them. See how hollow it is.
Ideally, yes. Let’s each set a reminder for perhaps 18 to 24 months from now to revisit this. I have a bad feeling that we’ll be right back to 2019. Apple will be using cheap labor in China and raking in profits, and Tim will be on to his next moment-in-time temporary cause. He’s a cavalier, opportunistic, “I want everyone to love me” marketer and that’s it. Oh, and the Apple exec team will still be without diversity in color. I hope to be wrong.
You don’t consider Mr. Bell to be black? Or you don’t consider him to be American?
And Ms. Jackson? Not black or not American?
