Obviously, the context was omitted. He meant improving the health of the 1% who can afford new Apple products.
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Apple CEO Tim Cook: 'Apple's Most Important Contribution to Mankind' Will Be in Health
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This -
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...hones-by-10-percent-nikkei-idUSKCN1P304H?il=0
While T Cook has been gassing with Cramer!
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...hones-by-10-percent-nikkei-idUSKCN1P304H?il=0
While T Cook has been gassing with Cramer!
Steve Jobs didn't exist in the Twitter/Instagram/Facebook age, where BS FUD spreads like a disease. Back then, a simple press release would get all the publications of the day to do your PR for you. Can't do that any more.
If I may be so bold. Where do you hail from?
I'd rather my Apple products don't contribute to or connect with that 'other' advertising and data collection platform that masquerades as a phone OS.
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You're trying to compare two completely different things that are designed for two completely different purposes.
A single-read clinical heart rate monitor is not the same as a daily-wear watch, which is geared more toward uncovering trends and wide anomalies compared to what your measured baseline is over time.
I have a heart murmur and I can go to the cardiologist 100 times and it will never show up on a one-time EKG, it's not meant for that. However, next time it happens I'll at least have a little info from my watch, relative to what my normal heart rhythm is, to show my doc.
Saying a watch should have the same kind of accuracy as a piece of equipment in a hospital is absurd. It's apples and oranges. Use the watch for its purpose instead of demanding the impossible/impractical.
Compared to the vast advancements in medicine throughout history, his statement is pure arrogance.
Thank. You.
Most of the people here are absolutely impossible to please...you can take a freaking ECG FROM YOUR FINGERTIP. If that doesn’t impress you, what will?
A desktop with a modified design that allows upgrades from users. /s
Outside the US we are not impressed - because we can not use it. But we happily pay more to get less. I guess we will rather have a Withings with ECG then an Apple watch with ECG enabled.
You mean the negative health effects of carrying a phone right next to your vital organs all day?
If everyone stops witht the jokes, this is actually a very interesting statement if you step back and take a look.
Apple is so successful And profitable at the moment, with very little being health related, that this makes you wonder what their vision is for the long term.
Imagine the possibilities with technology and health. Apple could make a huge impact here and the CEO thinks they will. That is interesting.
Clearly, you’d look back now and say iPhone. I believe Apple is going hard into health and health devices/services.
Apple is so successful And profitable at the moment, with very little being health related, that this makes you wonder what their vision is for the long term.
Imagine the possibilities with technology and health. Apple could make a huge impact here and the CEO thinks they will. That is interesting.
Clearly, you’d look back now and say iPhone. I believe Apple is going hard into health and health devices/services.
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Watch accuracy is within tolerable ranges for the average person. However, I’ve been told by people that love the Apple Watch but work in biomedical engineering, that the chest strap is still more accurate on a consistent basis.
I would love to get one for my fitness activities such as cycling and weight lifting, but they discouraged me from that citing accuracy problems.
I hear Elizabeth Holmes is available to help “Cook” up some fresh rumors for those health-related products — you know, the ones that will change the world.
At least they didn’t drag out the rotting corpse of the
Car.
At least they didn’t drag out the rotting corpse of the
Car.
Maybe Cramer's daughter doesn't want to upgrade because Apple doesn't offer an iPhone in that size anymore, especially one with TouchID button and 3.5mm jack. Maybe the new iPhones are too expensive.
My take is she's saying Apple needs to offer an updated iPhone SE.
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Best post in the last 3 months.
I'm going to disagree - I got an apple watch series 4 for Christmas, ECG recognized my moms recently diagnosed A-Fib on the first try. The other 4 people in the room, including 2 with recent checkups came up normal. My original Apple Watch measures consistent with the result at the doctor, and my 3 year old Withings BP cuff still measures within 2-3% of the result I get at the doctors office (on the original AA batteries no less)
Of course they aren't 100% - just like anything it will take time to develop the tech. Do you think all of the features you want have been just sitting on a shelf somewhere at Apple and evil Tim is just sitting on them?
Confusing Home Devices with Hospital Grade Devices. If we follow your logic then no home devices should be used. Such as blood pressure, glucose, temperature, etc. Because they all are less accurate then the hospital systems. The home or out of doctors environment devices are data collectors for ones medical team. They can be off a few points but over time they paint a picture as to how things are going for the medical team. For final diagnosis, doctors and other medical professionals rely on their systems.
I doubt the home systems will anytime soon get to the level you are proposing. However, does not demish their value. And getting better because of technology and companies like Apple.
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Just a thought....Never ask a recommendation from someone who’s career depends on devices they do not make. To the basic point, a chest strap has proven to be more accurate but has its own set of issues.
Example, set the Apple Watch to notify you for a heart rate over 120 or under 40 during the workout, does it really matter if it is a few percentage points off? If your heart stops at real 121 and Apple Watch reported 120, you actually had a major problem already. Now if Apple Watch consistently reported a 150 during your workout, might be a good time to take a closer look as to why. But without the watch, one has the two finder on the neck fallback. I use mine for exercising, the results are well within what my chest strap reporting system did.
The accuracy is not for Hospital ICU, gives one guidance. Apple Watch excellent for my needs, exercising, swimming, kayaking, hiking, and reading a book, since Apple Watch zero (not swimming until 3).
Hope that gives another side to the discussion.
I have to say that there has been a noticeable improvement in Siri and Apple maps in the last few months. A big improvement. There really must be more attention being paid in those areas, not just Cook ‘pipeline’ speak.
Apple should buy Withings now that Nokia has sold it back to its founder.
It’s the perfect fit for an Apple Health division. Withings products function with the simplicity and and ease of use that is so ingrained in Apple’s culture and look like they could have been designed by Jony Ive.
It’s the perfect fit for an Apple Health division. Withings products function with the simplicity and and ease of use that is so ingrained in Apple’s culture and look like they could have been designed by Jony Ive.
Agree.
Data also supports it with a recent study showing Apple crushed Alexa and Cortana and performed nearly as well as spyware Google.
To you and others here: I am not a doctor or medical device manufacturer. Apple and others are entering an industry (medical devices) that is heavily regulated and is not the same as an MP3 player industry. What I am saying is:
1)I welcome the day of an Apple Watch device that will test/track loads of information about my health...and make it available instantly to an ER doctor if they find me lying on the side of the road...and make it available to my Primary Care Physician (PCP) whenever needed...and make it easily available/readable to me, Mr. Consumer, so I can watch for possible problems. We've seen such devices (or suits) in sci-fi movies for at least the past 40 years...to have something like that by 2030 would be amazing. One can argue that currently, Apple and others are pitching these products as psuedo-medical devices. 3-10 years from now my guess is these would be pitched as medical devices and/or treated as such by the government and viewed by society as a medical device...not a watch that just so happens to guess your heart rate.
2)If there is no accountability/liability by the manufacturer, then the device is nothing more than a toy and should be advertised as such. People aren't going to die if their cell phone doesn't live up to a promise of blazing fast internet speeds or some fancy display. People aren't going to die if their tv doesn't stream perfectly. People aren't going to die if their iPod battery doesn't last the promised 8 hours. People will die, however, if their <insert your 2030 medical device name here that is much like an Apple Watch> decides to stop tracking your heart rate unbeknownst to you...or if it reports your heart rate is fine when it's definitely very bad...or it reports your blood pressure is perfect when it is truly terrible...or fails to call 911 as promised if you have a heart attack. These wearable devices that promise/promote/advertise health tracking so that you can take care of yourself better or report results to ER or PCPs need to be held accountable if they do not meet these promises/advertisements. If they want to advertise them as fun My Little Pony Health Care Tracker for playtime and pretend doctor scenarios, sure, that's a completely different sales pitch and story and acceptance of use. Apple's website states (emphasis mine):
"Apple Watch Series 4 inspires you to live a healthier life by helping you manage everything from everyday stress to calories burned. At the same time, it monitors your heart rate and lets you know if it detects something of concern. And that sense of security now goes a step further with fall detection and Emergency SOS. The new Apple Watch has your back — as well as your heart....Emergency SOS allows you to quickly get help. It calls 911, notifies your emergency contacts, sends your current location, and displays your Medical ID badge on the screen for emergency personnel."
That sounds like a medical device to me...and some really straightforward advertising about security, emergency situations, and that it "has your back". It will diplay my Medical ID to the ER, call 911 for me, sends my physical location, etc. Those are a lot of promises and I take them very seriously. I'll pay for it. But I want accountability in return for my payment for this medical device.
I'll happily pay for the medical device that is accurate, designed with the stringest QC, and that the manufacturer is held accountable. I won't pay for a toy because it's no use to me. This is exactly why I returned my Fitbit...it was completely inaccurate (and hundreds of others agreed). There is no value, in my eyes, for a $150 step counter that is wildly inaccurate.
The FDA has not classified Apple Watch as a medical device. The fall detection and SOS aren’t medical device either. However, the innovation is interesting.
This forum is called MacRumors and most people are here to discuss Mac and Apple products, not cancer. He could cure cancer and still be doing a bad job or be a poor fit as CEO of Apple; the two aren’t mutually exclusive.
Personally, I find him very difficult to listen to. He should’ve used the interview as an opportunity to provide assurance to iPad Pro customers, but he’s been completely silent on that.
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