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Correct, but I also would hope our president would not present himself on inauguration day free of any conflicts that would materialize the moment he is sworn in. To date, everything he has done suggests he has no intention of clearing that conflict and constitutional violation.

You might be right, I am also uncertain about what he's going to do and I do believe that he has to find a solution to the possibility of conflicts.
 
I don't know how much of this was just optics. But I do hope that this conversation leads to something positive. One thing for sure is that these companies rely a great deal on intelectual talent from abroad. Therefore, education and immigration go hand in hand. We need to train/educate our citizens better if they are to compete for jobs in America. We cannot simply build walls and kick people out because we lack the talent to get things done right now. Let's see what changes as a result of this meeting. #hopeful

Whenever I hear somebody in USA complaining about jobs being taken away my first statement is always that it starts with eduction. (Of course there are more factors)

The education system is so flawed that it is impossible to get the talent up to international standards. Obviously the parents play a big role.
Chasing the dream of being rich, competing with the neighbors, materialistic thinking, having to have two incomes etc. are all contributing factors.
We see examples how parents from other nations sit with their children doing homework together and teach until they get it. They foster the interest in math and sciences.

Being older, I find todays generation is encouraged too easily to give up when something is hard.

The sheer amount of engineers we find in China and Japan is not matched in the US percentage wise.

I am not an American citizen, so I can't vote. I didn't/don't like much of the Trump bravado, but I think we need to give it time and be fair to let him do what he thinks will help the US.

He knows that some of it was just campaign rhetoric and he has to follow the law.

He also knows how to make money(and avoid taxes), so getting mostly business people as advisors and cabinet members is a good start. Don't know why he is bringing his children in, but unfair to judge until we see what they do.

Reaching out to industry leaders for discussions is a better way to go than empty threats.
 
I might vote one way or another, and have a preference but if you followed my posts in PRSI you would know that I carry no allegiance to a candidate and/or a party. I am ready to dump Trump at the first sign of real issues.

This!

Anyone who votes strictly "D" or "R", or drives around with a candidates name on a bumper sticker is a closed minded "political zealot", as I like to call them. That's why most PRSI discussions go nowhere. People dig in their heels and defend their positions vehemently, regardless of how ridiculous or non-fact based they may be.
 
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Whenever I hear somebody in USA complaining about jobs being taken away my first statement is always that it starts with eduction. (Of course there are more factors)

Education? The jobs are going to China and Mexico because the companies can pay them peanuts.
 
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You might be right, I am also uncertain about what he's going to do and I do believe that he has to find a solution to the possibility of conflicts.

The question is, do the Republican congressmen have enough of a backbone to call him on it? If they believe in the constitution, the purpose of separation of powers, and take their jobs seriously, they will call him on it immediately - it is afterall an impeachable offense to so brazenly violate the constitution. If they are cowards, they risk essentially erasing this clause from the constitution through their inaction and signing off on all the other ethical violations Trump will surely have.

This whole election cycle has been about double standards, and it continues after the election. They cannot say Trump's conflicts are ok and then object to future same conflicts of the opposing party. Yet so far, the exact same things they said were wrong with Clinton they have welcomed in Trump. Don't even get me started on Trump looking to Petraeus despite Petraeus' crazy classified emails scandal...
 
This!

Anyone who votes strictly "D" or "R", or drives around with a candidates name on a bumper sticker is a closed minded "political zealot", as I like to call them. That's why most PRSI discussions go nowhere. People dig in their heels and defend their positions vehemently, regardless of how ridiculous or non-fact based they may be.

You need to go take your reasonableness elsewhere my friend. PRSI is all about identity politics and pitchforks. Divide and conquer! ;)
 
Trump is best chums with Obama? I doubt that.
Well, I doubt that as well, but I don't think Russian bombers destroying Aleppo, bombing hospitals, enabling Syrian soldiers to murder civilians, have been sent there by Obama. They were sent there by Putin. And to be honest, when you try to make jokes about this subject, you should be deeply ashamed of yourself. There are 300,000 dead bodies in Syria.
 
He hasn't even started yet. And not sure what you're defining as "corrupt".

Give the man a chance and see if he falls on his sword.
Given his conduct over the previous... well, lifetime, really... WHY exactly should he be given any more chances?
 
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Wish we had Trump in the UK. Identity politics is probably even worse here and we have thousands of useless people whose job it is to win the grievance and victimhood Olympics and nag us for being thought criminals.

Trump's given jobs to thousands of people of all races, genders and orientations. Trump get work done. Best Prez ever.

There has been a public request to the government, signed by 600,000 people or so, to keep Trump out of Britain, mostly because of his racist views. And if you go to Scotland, where he has been building a golf course, you will find thousands there who hate his guts.

But cheer up, you've got frog face and mini Trump.
 



Apple CEO Tim Cook visited Trump Tower along with other prominent tech executives on Wednesday as they gathered in New York for a summit with U.S. President-elect Donald Trump, who was accompanied by three of his adult children.

According to The New York Times, the meeting was attended by 11 other tech executives, including Alphabet's Larry Page and Eric Schmidt, Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg, Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella, IBM CEO Ginni Rometty, and Tesla's Elon Musk. Vice-President-Elect Mike Pence was also at the table.

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Cook sat two seats away from Trump, beside Facebook board member and Trump transition official Peter Thiel, and listened as the president-in-waiting began by heaping praise on the executives in the room.
According to The Wall Street Journal, executives were then invited to introduce themselves one by one.
A number of issues were discussed once the press were ushered out of the meeting room. According to several executives who attended the meet, topics included trade, immigration, and vocational education - the latter being one of the main reasons Cook has previously given for why most Apple products are made in China.

Trump has rebuked Apple in the past for basing the vast majority of it assembly plants in other countries. While campaigning earlier this year, Trump said "we're going to get Apple to start building their damn computers and things in this country instead of in other countries", while he has also threatened to introduce a 45 percent tax on products imported from China.

According to USA Today, Trump also told executives at the meeting that he planned to slash the corporate tax rate in the U.S. in order to make it a lot easier to repatriate money kept overseas.
The meeting reportedly ran for two hours and included "productive discussions about job creation and economic growth", said incoming White House Chief of Staff Renice Priebus. At the end of the summit, Trump suggested, and tech leaders agreed to, meeting quarterly, according to a person briefed on the meeting.

Cook was a Hillary Clinton supporter during the election campaign and hosted a fundraiser for the Democratic presidential nominee in August on behalf of himself. In a company-wide memo issued following Trump's victory, Cook urged Apple employees to "move forward together" despite "uncertainties ahead".

Despite any personal misgivings he may have had in the past, Cook reportedly stayed at Trump Tower after the summit was over to meet privately with the President-Elect for further discussions.

Note: Due to the political nature of the discussion regarding this topic, the discussion thread is located in our Politics, Religion, Social Issues forum. All forum members and site visitors are welcome to read and follow the thread, but posting is limited to forum members with at least 100 posts.

Article Link: Apple CEO Tim Cook Attends Executive Tech Summit at Trump Tower

Did trump at least use vaseline tim?
 
I'm sure Apple would love it if Trump made decisions and changes that meant they could confidently make more products in the USA.

The problem is, if Trump is only definitely going to be in power for 4 years (maybe 8) it's a hard sell to possibly upset all your overseas suppliers and factories, relationships that have been cultivated and developed over decades in some cases, to make him happy for those 4 years. The deal would have to be so spectacular for Apple that then people would (rightly, in my view) wonder just why one of the world's most valuable companies (who sell inordinately expensive products and are sitting on a cash pile so large that one would require oxygen masks to breathe at the summit) would get to pay almost nothing in tax while ordinary people trying their hardest struggle to make ends meet.

Agreed, why would Apple or anybody else leave their current supplier base?
We live in an international world. The main reason for all this off shore business is that the US was not smart enough or had creative enough thinkers to offer businesses the environment to produce here.

The politicians rather fight each other or discuss and get upset about unimportant subjects or trying to tell people how to live their lives.

There are a lot of factors why production is overseas. many of the raw material is there. The labor pool of that size doesn't exist in the US and to set up mostly robot factories doesn't help create jobs.

The "make ends meet" would also have to be qualified. It seems as if a majority of people live way beyond their means (for example: look at all the credit card failures and the housing bubble)

Until people bring their personal expectation in line with reality and live accordingly this will not change.

Apple's and other companies tax behavior has been discussed many times and you can even include Trump's taxes. Until the tax codes are changed what is legal is legal

Loopholes included. Morals and ethics do not legally require the payment of taxes.
 
Say what you want about Trump but he at least is starting to get work done and he hasn't even been sworn in yet. Compare that to Trudeau up here in Canada who has been in power for a year and all he has to show for it are a bunch of selfies from around the world
Job done?
Appointed a bunch of billionaires to his cabinet.
Saved few hundred jobs at Carrier and huge corporate incentives at the expense of taxpayers.
Hummmm? OK

Give you less than two years for buyer's remorse.
 
Right you are. Many Canadians are delusional. Those that are, still apologize for Trudeau. Face it, you elected the Obama of the North, but unlike Americans you actually had years and years of real-life observation of Chicago Jesus and still went for it.
you mean like the lower unemployment and better stock market?
 
Say what you want about Trump but he at least is starting to get work done and he hasn't even been sworn in yet. Compare that to Trudeau up here in Canada who has been in power for a year and all he has to show for it are a bunch of selfies from around the world
He wants computers made in usa. :)
 
Given his conduct over the previous... well, lifetime, really... WHY exactly should he be given any more chances?
Whatever you think of his personal past (none of it that I agree with at all), he won the election and got elected as president. He has a job to do professionally and has run a business professionally that you could say is successful.

He has the sword now. Watch how he acts as a president from January. It's not complicated. It's the same for our own UK government regarding brexit.
 
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Pay attention, his children are part of this transition team. Once he takes office, they will not play a part in the administration, so he has said. It is really sad that you don't see that he is surrounding himself with the people he trusts, family. Who are themselves successful and already used to this kind of environment. He has no friends in Washington, not Democrats, not Republicans. He does have a bunch of people just waiting to assist in his failure.

I feel so sad that you cannot see the value in trusting your family and would not include them in the most important activities in your life if they were qualified. So sad.
Surrounding yourself with people you trust is completely normal. Surrounding yourself with people that also have big business interests creates exactly the conflicts of interest that Trump described as the swamp of DC. And don't kid yourself, having influence on the selection process for key cabinet and administration posts, even if only by controlling who gets access to Trump, has the potential for conflicts of interest.

Consulting people close to you is perfectly fine but when they also represent big business interests, you have to make sure that you don't even create an impression of possible undue influence.
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Cook has been saying for ages that Apple keep most of their money over seas because they get taxed so much to bring it back to the US and the tax system all needs reforming. So now he is sitting with a guy who is trying to fix this and he looks so depressed. I don't get it.
Believe it or not, people have more than one goal in life. Being able to repatriate money at lower tax rates is just one of many goals of Tim Cook.
 
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Tim does not look happy to be there, the look on his face says it all.
Tim always seems to have that look.

It's time to retire Tim, and make Apple great again.

Let's see:
AirPods delayed
iPhone 7 debacle
iOS10
Touchbar MBPs
Lack of iMac and Mac Pro updates
Mac mini??
 
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