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Currently Trump 47.5%, Clinton 47.7%.

Like I said, it appears most people didn't vote for Trump. But you can ignore me if you like, I'm a Brit. :D
Yup and it's going to rise up to a 1-1.5m gap once all the vote is counted (most from cali, Washington, Oregon)
 
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The popular vote is immaterial in U.S. Presidential elections, and for good reason.

If the popular vote was the only thing that mattered, the candidates would likely only spend time campaigning in a handful of very populous states and try to turn out as many people to vote in those states as they possibly could, ignoring the other 90% of the states entirely.

Our system is structured such that the outcome of an election can come down to a relatively low population state such as Wisconsin or Michigan, thus ensuring that every state is important, not just the states with the highest population.

Uh the exact opposite would happen. The entire campaign would have to change. Candidate right now focus on swing states and ignore most of the country because of electorate votes.

The electoral college is antiquated. We no longer need it.
 
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I wasn't going to contribute anything to this thread, but dude... You are too freaking funny. Thank you for that. This is the first solid laugh I've had in a long time. :D

Heyyyy glad I could help. Whatever side, it's time to laugh now. I aged 9 years this election! I was updated by my source with new insider information. I edited the post. The OP has all the info.

I became very good at being a smart ass and teasing people, because my dad was always teasing us. "We're a family", "NOT". But when he WAS around, he was always pranking us. Sometimes he said we could have a soda, and then we'd get our asses whooped for having a soda. Sometimes he said we couldn't and then after dinner asked why we didn't get any soda. Hahahahaha!
 
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Uh the exact opposite would happen. The entire campaign would have to change. Candidate right now focus on swing states and ignore most of the country because of electorate votes.

The electoral college is antiquated. We no longer need it.

If the system worked the way you wish it did, every single POTUS would be a liberal progressive because the sheer amount of people in New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and other population centers (that all have a preponderance of liberal voters) would outweigh the rest of the country.
 
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WHAT is SO wrong about being Made In China.....?? :rolleyes: Try producing iPhones, Mac and the rest here in America and even better!! lower the price. Lets see where THAT gets you, as a company. Lets see how long that company will survive. People's fantasy of the 'good ole' days', lots of luck on the opening of new factories, paying the working class high wages [plus] health insurance, selling the product at a low price AND trying to earn a profit. Good Luck America!! I'm tuning out everything for next 4 years and sitting back watching this mess. You All ask for it. :p And for the folks who didn't vote, U Don't have a right to complaint.

And don't be comin' at me with your trolling cause I don't read nor respond. Enjoy your Trump!
 
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Apple withdrew its support of the Republican National Convention because of Trump's controversial remarks, particularly regarding minorities, women, and immigrants, and Cook held a separate fundraising event for Speaker of the House Paul Ryan and other Republicans instead.
Huh... I wouldn't have pegged Apple to have supported the RNC in the first place :confused:


People joke how Tim expected all Apple employees to have voted for Hillary, but I'm not so sure now. Besides Trump in general, I suspect that Apple management might be control freaks, and Trump in the picture is a threat to that.:eek:
 
The popular vote is immaterial in U.S. Presidential elections, and for good reason.

If the popular vote was the only thing that mattered, the candidates would likely only spend time campaigning in a handful of very populous states and try to turn out as many people to vote in those states as they possibly could, ignoring the other 90% of the states entirely.

Our system is structured such that the outcome of an election can come down to a relatively low population state such as Wisconsin or Michigan, thus ensuring that every state is important, not just the states with the highest population.

Yeah I know. Please track back through my comments, my whole thing about popular vote was in response to the phrase "we the people" in terms of who voted for whom. It's more like 'we the electoral college' isn't it? That's all. :D

In the UK it's somewhat similar in some ways, based on constituencies in a first-past-the-post system. It has advantages and disadvantages, like all electoral systems.
 
When did I say I believed Trump was above the law? I don't recall making that statement.
Oh ok I'm sorry, I thought hiring illegal immigrants was illegal. My bad

You can see the irony in this though right?
 
WHAT is SO wrong about being Made In China.....?? :rolleyes: Try producing iPhones, Mac and the rest here in America and even better!! lower the price. Lets see where THAT gets you, as a company. Lets see how long that company will survive. People's fantasy of the 'good ole' days', lets of luck on opening new factories, pay the working class high wages plus health insurance, sell the product at a low price AND try to earn a profit. Good Luck America!! I'm tuning out everything for next 4 years and sitting back watching this mess. You All ask for it. :p

Amen.

The beauty of it is most of this stuff is self inflicted. They voted in their own demise.
 
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Oh ok I'm sorry, I thought hiring illegal immigrants was illegal. My bad

You can see the irony in this though right?

Its okay, we will build a wall. And by we, I mean illegal immigrants working the labor jobs. And when they are done building the wall, we will ask them to move to the other side of the wall. And then we will ask them to pay for the wall.

It is going to be a circus of epic proportions.
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Translation: "Trump, please let us bring back our hoard of overseas cash at a crazy low tax rate. --Tim"

Yep. Better yet, tax free repatriation.
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Yup and it's going to rise up to a 1-1.5m gap once all the vote is counted (most from cali, Washington, Oregon)

When those tax cuts roll in, lots of those people in the west coast will be experiencing a windfall. Whereas the geniuses in Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, Wisconsin, well, you are getting the government you deserve.
 
Hillary was right there with Trump in terms of divisiveness with her "basket of deplorables" comment, among many others. So much for her "going high". She milked that line from Michelle Obama's convention speech for all she could but she definitely didn't adhere to that philosophy.

I do not disagree. But, she lost. So, he needs to step up.
 
Huh... I wouldn't have pegged Apple to have supported the RNC in the first place :confused:



People joke how Tim expected all Apple employees to have voted for Hillary, but I'm not so sure now. Besides Trump in general, I suspect that Apple management might be control freaks, and Trump in the picture is a threat to that.:eek:

I love how people on Macrumors talk about people who work at Apple.

News flash, walking into an Apple store does not make you an expert on people who work for Apple in Cupertino. So unless you've been to Apple HQ or at least know people who work at Apple HQ then it may be good to shut the heck up about them already.

P.S. I live about 15 miles away from Cupertino. I have worked with people there and I am personal friends with several people who work or have worked at Apple H.Q. It turns out, they are not as dumb as people in MacRumors would have you believe. In fact, on the whole, they are geniuses compared to the people in MacRumors.
 
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Trump never said minorities were going to be deported. He said people who are in this country illegally were going to be deported. There are ******s who voted for all the candidates who will always be ******s to other human beings, unfortunately.

Personally, I think if you break the law -- as people who have come into the U.S. illegally have -- they should be concerned that their crimes may now eventually be found out and there could be consequences. It bothers me that the passive nature of border enforcement in the U.S. has gotten to the point that people willfully break the law and then don't live in fear of the potential consequences of their actions. I'm glad that people who have broken U.S. law are now considering the fact that their actions may have real consequences. Maybe that fear will also dissuade others who are currently considering coming into this country illegally.


I know he didn't say that... but, he didn't exactly clarify his positions to people because there was never much policy talk during the debates. I blame the press for not pushing the candidates to discuss policy.

Now, there are Trump supporters out attacking minorities. It's wrong. It's very sad.

I am fine with criminals being afraid. But, schoolkids being afraid? Nope.
 
I agree with the sentiment, but wishing for something doesn't make it any more realistic to do so. There's no way that Apple can manufacture products like the iPhone in the US. Our country long ago gave up its leadership in manufacturing and we simply don't have the capacity to produce most Apple products at the speeds, volumes, and quality levels Apple gets from companies in China. Even if Apple could magically teleport a Foxcon manufacturing facility to the US, I doubt many Americans would be willing to do that sort of work for that sort of pay. Conversely, if those hypothetical workers were paid decent wages, an iPhone would cost $2000.
So... the solution is to continuing exploit workers in that region? Unless Apple gets only less than $100 of profit off each iPhone made (I've been told anywhere from $250 to $400 per phone), they really are looking like greedy buggers.
 
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I love how people on Macrumors talk about people who work at Apple.

News flash, walking into an Apple store does not make you an expert on people who work for Apple in Cupertino. So unless you've been to Apple HQ or at least know people who work at Apple HQ then it may be good to shut the heck up about them already.

P.S. I live about 15 miles away from Cupertino. I have worked with people there and I am personal friends with several people who work or have worked at Apple H.Q. It turns out, they are not as dumb as people in MacRumors would have you believe. In fact, on the whole, they are geniuses compared to the people in MacRumors.

"Apple" is in the company, not it's employees. It's employees are free to vote for who they want to, but the company as an entity seems to have it's own preference.

I don't know why you're getting defensive and bringing up IQs... I'm sure the engineers and developers at Apple are brilliant. I've met a few of them myself. My post was strictly discussing their political preference, not their competencies at their jobs.
 
There is a campaign for California to secede and become an independent country. It's called YesCalifornia.org. I say go for it. :D

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White working class.
 
I love how people on Macrumors talk about people who work at Apple.

News flash, walking into an Apple store does not make you an expert on people who work for Apple in Cupertino. So unless you've been to Apple HQ or at least know people who work at Apple HQ then it may be good to shut the heck up about them already.
"Apple" is in the company, not it's employees. It's employees are free to vote for who they want to, but the company as an entity seems to have it's own preference.

I don't know why you're getting defensive and bringing up IQs... I'm sure the engineers and developers at Apple are brilliant. I've met a few of them myself. My post was strictly discussing their political preference, not their competencies at their jobs.

Out of curiosity, how do you know their personal political preferences? How do you know how they run their business? Have you ever walked into an Apple office to see how the employees are managed? How do you know who is a control freak and who isn't? And what is controlled and what is not?

I don't honestly care what you think about Apple or its employees. I only care that you are speaking on a topic that you know nothing about.
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There is a campaign for California to secede and become an independent country. It's called YesCalifornia.org. I say go for it. :D

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White working class.

That's never gonna happen. In the first place, liberals in general and the ones in California in specific don't have any cajones. In the second place, there are plenty of republicans in California. If push came to shove, the relative minority Republicans in the state would easily overwhelm the liberal majority.

Think thousands of Iraqi troops retreating in the face of the small handful of ISIS militants. That level of getting overwhelmed.
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Ask the South how well that worked out for them.

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Oh the irony. You do realize, the south now rules the republican party, right? And they control or are about to control all three branches of government. So you tell me, who won the civil war again?
 
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Heyyyy glad I could help. Whatever side, it's time to laugh now. I aged 9 years this election! I was updated by my source with new insider information. I edited the post. The OP has all the info.

I became very good at being a smart ass and teasing people, because my dad was always teasing us. "We're a family", "NOT". But when he WAS around, he was always pranking us. Sometimes he said we could have a soda, and then we'd get our asses whooped for having a soda. Sometimes he said we couldn't and then after dinner asked why we didn't get any soda. Hahahahaha!

I moved from my home (San Antonio) a little more than a decade ago when I retired (I miss it very much). Perhaps your particular brand of levity just felt like home. It's only now that I noticed your location.

I voted Trump & I'm not saying that with a trailing qualifier. He was my choice for many reasons.

That said, your humorous post was the only one I truly appreciated. Thanks again... Go Spurs Go!
 
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