Apple CEO Tim Cook Calls For Unity in Memo to Staff Following Trump Victory

[CarlJ]

What I'm trying to say is that, the rest of the country doesn't need Californias food. The mainland would have the south to grow crops during the winter, and the north harvests a lot during summer/fall (albeit most of the north is growing corn right now).

Not having the rest of the country to export to would probably hurt CA more than it would hurt the rest of us.

Farmers markets are already becoming a thing again in rust belt cities, though. And the local produce, in my experience, is better quality than the CA produce we find on grocery shelves.

What I'm saying is, California grows much or all of the food needed to sustain ourselves, were we to become a separate country. I am not advocating this, I'm just saying it'd work better than most of the rest of the country might imagine. And we would no longer be pouring California money into the federal government to fund other states.

Also, local Farmers Markets have been quite a big deal here for the past decade. All the very best stuff goes to the local markets (can't beat something that was picked on the last 24 hours), and we can grow all sorts of things year round.

 

[sudo1996]

I guess it's a global thing to think 'the other side' are moaners. Here we had Brexit, and after the vote Leave supporters said Remain supporters were moaning, whinging, etc. And yet they forget about Eurosceptics and their decades of moaning.

How about this: Everyone just stops saying your political opponents are moaning unless your side has been perfectly accepting.

I think people are saying Democrats whine based on the sheer number of protests, riots, and Safe Spaces™ they're creating right now. Nothing like this happened with Obama. Sure, I've been hearing friends and family members moaning about Obama for 8 years, but they've kept on with their daily lives.

It's even worse here than usual, I think. People have been continuously crying, losing their ****, and spamming Facebook groups for the past 2 days. I don't know if they just don't have any homework or what. Protestors ran onto the freeway to try and block... all the Clinton supporters... and one immediately got mowed down by a Honda Element whose driver didn't react in time.

 

[JamesPDX]

As the generation that had first hand experience with Fascism has now died off, it quickly reappears. The Relative peace in the world since the last great WW2 is about over. As a person near 80, I do remember.

Our beautiful country is in for some very difficult times.

I hope you're wrong. The signs of what you describe might be in the appearance of a new generation of brown shirts that may now have a sense of entitlement to inflict harm rather than better the nation. In contested elections that arise from the distractions created by culture wars, you either get God or Hitler. Only time will tell.

I hope we at least get those infrastructure improvements.
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I didn't vote for Trump but why do I get the feeling had Hillary won Tim Cook wouldn't have sent a letter like this to employees? Maybe people in the Bay Area need to wake up and realize not everyone thinks or votes like them? Or California could always secede and we'll see how it survives on its own. Scotland tried it, why not California?

No state is going to secede. It didn't work out well in the 1800's and it certainly won't work now. My candidate lost, but you know what I did? Manned-up!

 

[sudo1996]

I didn't vote for Trump but why do I get the feeling had Hillary won Tim Cook wouldn't have sent a letter like this to employees? Maybe people in the Bay Area need to wake up and realize not everyone thinks or votes like them? Or California could always secede and we'll see how it survives on its own. Scotland tried it, why not California?

Maybe soon Californians and New Yorkers will get out of their bubbles and understand the rest of the nation better. I've been in LA and Berkeley all my life, but I've visited Arizona and rural parts of California a lot, and I say they are severely misunderstood.

I dislike Trump too, for reasons I won't go into now, but I'm still hopeful. I really want to see Trump lead well now, obviously for our nation's good but also to make all the sociology/gender/polisci majors here realize how closed-minded and hypocritical they are. He's already made every "political expert" look like a moron, and all those people who pretended he was a joke and made low-quality satire of him are in hiding now.

 

[budselectjr]

As the generation that had first hand experience with Fascism has now died off, it quickly reappears. The Relative peace in the world since the last great WW2 is about over. As a person near 80, I do remember.

Our beautiful country is in for some very difficult times.

Relative peace since WWII? Have you been living under a rock for the past 15 years?

 

[5684697]

Not true. They would cost the same as now, Apple would just not continue to make 40% margin on every iPhone sold. Apple would simply make a lot less profit.

I would be happy with that because Apple's profits don't benefit anyone any way. They don't spend it, the don't give it to shareholders and they don't use it pay a fair tax rate. Take it away and make them build stuff in the US and create jobs.

They pay shareholders a dividend.

Cook should leave politics out, but Apple has a history of being extremely politically correct. It is self righteous, all things considered.

I've always thought that they put Algore on the board to assuage environmentalists and to keep the US government off of their back. They saw what happened to Microsoft during the Clinton Administration.

 

[LizKat]

I think people are saying Democrats whine based on the sheer number of protests, riots, and Safe Spaces™ they're creating right now. Nothing like this happened with Obama. Sure, I've been hearing friends and family members moaning about Obama for 8 years, but they've kept on with their daily lives.

See I don't think in the course of his campaigns Mr. Obama managed to insult over half the American population, intentionally, in order to appeal to a narrow base of primary season supporters, which is what Donald Trump did.

As it turns out the Democrats ran a candidate in 2016 with enough unfavorables to make Trump look good, and he won the electoral college. That does not assuage the concerns of everyone he disrespected along the way to his victory. Nor does anything in his so-far-revealed transition plans since they are being captained by some of the country's most extremist brand of "conservative".

What will probably save this country from going under in the near future is the decency of some Republicans in the US Senate. But there's a lot of damage Trump can manage with the swipe of a pen on his own in the meantime, unless it hits one of those little inconvenient speed bumps in the constitution.

Don't worry, the protestors who didn't do something bustable-for will soon resume more productive tasks, like getting back to school or studying up on how to run for local office. The Bernie Sanders wing of the populism of 2016 didn't die when Clinton won the nomination. Many progressives worked to help elect progessive members of Congress, building a good ground game for future operations, and now will work for other progressive goals in or outside the Democratic Party. The DNC can't afford to ignore them any more, that's for sure. After all they're who actually ginned up enough enthusiasm to get a hell of a lot of Dems to the polls, just not quite enough to put Clinton in the win column.

It's possible that her loss of this election is not all bad even from the establishment Democrats' view. In any case, America will carry on. We've had bad feelings before about elections and somehow they get worked out over time. Mr. Trump needs to reach out more to the country he half-disrespected, though. Otherwise there'll be no honeymoon at all, just as there would not have been for Hillary Clinton.

 

[manhattanboy]

Calexit.

So Californians can have fun defending themselves against any other global power interested in their natural resources...

And with quenching the thirst of the southern half of the state...

And with trying to sell their stale agriculture products back to the mainland when the mainland can grow its own crops in the south and supplant that with urban farming.

To all of the Californians pining for that future... well, good luck.

But if Californians can pull off Calexit, then they will be able to nominate HRC as their first president.

On a related note: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-11-nations-of-the-united-states-2015-7

There's more oil in other places then California so I doubt anyone would be interested.
There is plenty of water. You non coastal folk may have never experienced this thing called the ocean. Desalination is how many coastal countries get their water. That's some of that "science stuff" that they may not teach in the country's center states
As far as fruits and nuts, I think if it was cheaper to produce them somewhere else then they should. Farmers have unnaturally used up the ground water there given that it is 70 degrees and sunny year round allowing for continuous growing seasons.

I think many in California would love to not be apart of your KKK rallies and bigotry and if that means a separate country then so be it.

 

[Cpt. Gilgamesh]

It seems you did. No I was commenting to you. You bemoaned left wingers for moaning about things, I just find it funny that's even a topic to bring up after everything republicans did during Obama.
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So because some right wing persons bitched and complained once, I can't comment on the current state of leftists?

Oh... okay, I guess.

I just find it funny that because I mentioned the left, it has to be countered with the right when the right was not what I was talking about at all and not being called into question.

 

[developer13245]

Once again, they besmirch the good Reverend's name. His proper title is The Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Dropping "The Reverend" from his title (which should appear first) diminishes his life's primary work (service to God) or calls him a hypocrite.

 

[SatManager]

What I'm saying is, California grows much or all of the food needed to sustain ourselves, were we to become a separate country. I am not advocating this, I'm just saying it'd work better than most of the rest of the country might imagine. And we would no longer be pouring California money into the federal government to fund other states.

Also, local Farmers Markets have been quite a big deal here for the past decade. All the very best stuff goes to the local markets (can't beat something that was picked on the last 24 hours), and we can grow all sorts of things year round.

It will be real difficult when that Colorado River water is turned off. The Law of the River treaty would be null and void as California would no longer be a state. You would get the same share as Mexico does. And Arizona has a long memory about how they were shafted during that negotiation.

And California has no rivers or streams that flow into the Colorado that you can claim a share that way. So plan on the Imperial valley on going dry.

 

[jdillings]

What's so bad about Hillary Clinton?

Corrupt to the core....arguably the most corrupt politician of our times, beginning with her running for a Senate seat in a state she had never lived in.

 

[pat500000]

Corrupt to the core....arguably the most corrupt politician of our times, beginning with her running for a Senate seat in a state she had never lived in.

oh yeah....thanks to wikileak.

 

[0388631]

Sounds like SV is wondering if Donald Trump will go ahead on his word to close up tax loopholes and start placing big taxes on companies that export manufacturing. It won't be pretty for a lot of companies.

Also, local Farmers Markets have been quite a big deal here for the past decade. All the very best stuff goes to the local markets (can't beat something that was picked on the last 24 hours), and we can grow all sorts of things year round.

Yep. I grow basil all year round. I've got some plants that are bushes now and are a few years old. California is self sufficient, but he still has a point. The idea is stupid. We make fun of Texas wanting to do it and now we're the ones wanting to do it.

 

[CarlJ]

It will be real difficult when that Colorado River water is turned off. The Law of the River treaty would be null and void as California would no longer be a state. You would get the same share as Mexico does. And Arizona has a long memory about how they were shafted during that negotiation.

And California has no rivers or streams that flow into the Colorado that you can claim a share that way. So plan on the Imperial valley on going dry.

Actually, we've got 187 quintillion gallons of water that we store just off to the left. Through a minor technical oversight, it's stored in salt water form. We just need to build water desalination plants to use it. Actually, it's sort of ridiculous that we're not working on those plants already, as it would solve a lot of long-standing problems.

Mind you, this is all just some sort of thought experiment, which started with someone suggesting that California could consider the option of secession, apparently because our attitudes are unfathomable to those further east. Someone else stepped in quickly to suggest we'd do poorly "without all that federal money for our social programs" and I pointed out that almost every other state is getting more assistance, per capita, from the federal government, and the prospects for a seceded California doing well on its own are probably quite a bit better than many of you are assuming.

 

[diipii]

I didn't vote for Trump but why do I get the feeling had Hillary won Tim Cook wouldn't have sent a letter like this to employees? Maybe people in the Bay Area need to wake up and realize not everyone thinks or votes like them? Or California could always secede and we'll see how it survives on its own. Scotland tried it, why not California?

Scotland will always have to leech off someone to perpetuate the lifestyle England is paying for. They were easily conned by the SNP into believing they were rich and deserved to rule. This barmy notion has always existed in the daft scots as far back as "Bonnie Prince Charlie". They came into England a few times and we kicked their asses and sent them back. Now they just drink and kid themselves even more. What a shower.
[doublepost=1478855678][/doublepost]Cooky, you made your choice and now nobody's listening.

 

[CarlJ]

Yep. I grow basil all year round. I've got some plants that are bushes now and are a few years old. California is self sufficient, but he still has a point. The idea is stupid. We make fun of Texas wanting to do it and now we're the ones wanting to do it.

Oh I'm not saying we ought to do it. It'd be a terrible idea. I'm just saying i think many people have incorrect ideas about how well California would do on its own, based on some false assumptions.

 

[pat500000]

Sounds like SV is wondering if Donald Trump will go ahead on his word to close up tax loopholes and start placing big taxes on companies that export manufacturing. It won't be pretty for a lot of companies.



Yep. I grow basil all year round. I've got some plants that are bushes now and are a few years old. California is self sufficient, but he still has a point. The idea is stupid. We make fun of Texas wanting to do it and now we're the ones wanting to do it.

I voted for him, but I'll still hold him accountable as I call it. So far, he actually did some amazing thing with TPP and how he said he was going to withdrawal military from foreign counties (not physically yet), but had conversation with those two foreign countries and placed them in panic mode. I highly doubt he'll fulfill everything he said within 1 term.

If he establish some kind of foundation for this country, I'm all for it.

 

[0388631]

I voted for him, but I'll still hold him accountable as I call it. So far, he actually did some amazing thing with TPP and how he said he was going to withdrawal military from foreign counties (not physically yet), but had conversation with those two foreign countries and placed them in panic mode. I highly doubt he'll fulfill everything he said within 1 term.

If he establish some kind of foundation for this country, I'm all for it.

Well, yes, I liked the TPP thing. It was bad from the get-go. And if he works with Trudeau on revising NAFTA, then he's going to have a lot of people like him for those two things. I won't bother on immigration because that's a useless rabbit hole. Foreign military, yeah, I'll agree if he does it. I really want him to use the military budget and divert money to education and public infrastructure. If he's serious about using money wisely and improve our infrastructure and goes through with it, somehow, not only will he made middle and rural America happy, but he'll also give these people, mostly blue collar and or poor individuals a job for years.

Like Obama and every previous president, he's got big shoes to fill and it's not going to be easy. It's weird for me to say, but I don't think Bush was a bad president. Much better than his father. Accept he got handed a big F U on 9/11 plus he was surrounded by his war mongering father's cronies who directed him to do things that ultimately plagued his presidential years and still do. He's done a lot of good he never speaks out about.

 

[pat500000]

Well, yes, I liked the TPP thing. It was bad from the get-go. And if he works with Trudeau on revising NAFTA, then he's going to have a lot of people like him for those two things. I won't bother on immigration because that's a useless rabbit hole. Foreign military, yeah, I'll agree if he does it. I really want him to use the military budget and divert money to education and public infrastructure. If he's serious about using money wisely and improve our infrastructure and goes through with it, somehow, not only will he made middle and rural America happy, but he'll also give these people, mostly blue collar and or poor individuals a job for years.

Like Obama and every previous president, he's got big shoes to fill and it's not going to be easy. It's weird for me to say, but I don't think Bush was a bad president. Much better than his father. Accept he got handed a big F U on 9/11 plus he was surrounded by his war mongering father's cronies who directed him to do things that ultimately plagued his presidential years and still do. He's done a lot of good he never speaks out about.

Yeah. I'm sure he would use it wise. I'm thinking he's focusing more internally before external issues...like making sure congress members get limits.

 

[0388631]

Yeah. I'm sure he would use it wise. I'm thinking he's focusing more internally before external issues...like making sure congress members get limits.

Considering the enemies he's made. Or it was all for show. We'll find out soon enough.

 

[MacBH928]

Actually I was kind of hoping Trump would force the Apple board to replace Tim...

 

[JosephAW]

Can someone please CC a link or text when Steve Jobs wrote a letter to the employees when Bush won in 2000.

 

[0098386]

I think people are saying Democrats whine based on the sheer number of protests, riots, and Safe Spaces™ they're creating right now. Nothing like this happened with Obama. Sure, I've been hearing friends and family members moaning about Obama for 8 years, but they've kept on with their daily lives.

It's even worse here than usual, I think. People have been continuously crying, losing their ****, and spamming Facebook groups for the past 2 days. I don't know if they just don't have any homework or what. Protestors ran onto the freeway to try and block... all the Clinton supporters... and one immediately got mowed down by a Honda Element whose driver didn't react in time.

There's a reason people don't want him in power;

 

[wozmatic]

I'm not an American but these videos shed some light on why the people elected Trump

Michael Moore on Trump: "The Biggest F*** You in Human History"
youtube.com/watch?v=wxDRqeuLNag

President Trump: How & Why...
youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs

In the Halls of the Trumpen President
youtube.com/watch?v=XqEddipbpkw