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Is it? Last I saw was they are $443 billion in debt.

It is in wor
You didn't answer my question. What city in the USA has a large enough population of eligible people to assemble iPhones? Apple's not building factories in LA and NYC. Besides, automation is replacing factory jobs. Do we stop progress because some people may need to be retrained to do something else?
You could make 3-4 facilities to make them in.
And the government would not allow it - environmental issues with the glass grinding.....
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Well, I don't really make it a habit to ask for a person's resume/complete with educational background when I converse with people. Either a person has an opinion born out of facts and evidence or they have an opinion for which they look high and low for a supporting argument. If they are the former, I appreciate their opinion even if I disagree with them. If they are the latter, I move on to something else even if we happen to agree.

And with respect to the scientific method, I am confident that not only did she get taught the principles, I am confident that you did too. Unless you did not take any kind of modern science classes as part of elementary, middle, high school or college.
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But she let you buy a $30k car that was not made in the US? I guess patriotism has its limits.
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I take solace in the windfall that is about to take place. Lower taxes, more income from investments.

There is a truism (not to be confused with a Trumpism) - can take a horse to the water but can't make it drink.
Nope ever car I have ever bought was made in the USA - My current car is a 2007 mustang made in DEARBORN MI. That cost me 20k .....
I have never purchased a car not made in America. I have family that work for FORD and GM ..
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Did I say racist? They did have a rally's, and there were racist people there (not all of them)
But here it is, like I just posted in a few pages back. People who voted for Trump voted for a person who has said racist things. There's no denying that. Are they them selves racist, some are sure. Some are not but the contortions some one has to go through to want some one who says those things to represent them is mind blogging. So I'm sorry if they can not handle some calling out for voting for a person who says hateful things he said. I mean seriously making fun of disabled reporter. Truly pathetic.

He didn't make fun of his disability, HE does those motions with his hands when ever he comments about people lying or not knowing what they are talking about , you should look at the whole speech and then others he had made doing the same motions. My guess is Trump didn't even know the guy had become disabled over the years since he wrote about muslims in NJ celebrating when the towers fell. Because he lied and said he never wrote what he actually wrote on 9/12
 
Did anyone throw Robert Byrd (D-West Virginia) out of the party because he was a member of and recruiter for the KKK many years ago?

Dude are you seriously comparing Robert Byrd and Donald Trump? A bit early for that, I'd say. We need to give Trump some time to become a seasoned politician. As of now he's just a President-elect who has never held any other public office. All due respect to Mr. Trump, he's no Robert Byrd yet.

Byrd served in the US Senate during the terms in office of eleven Presidents, from Ike to Barack. Now there's a lot to like and plenty to dislike in any politician's record, and Senator Byrd is no exception there, but he was an amazing human being for sheer diligence in his rise from poverty and lifetime of emphasis on getting the work done; as a dedicated historian of the US Senate; as a public servant without whose thinking the USA would have been a poorer place.

I disagreed with plenty of Byrd's policy and was very grateful for other stances he took, particularly including his fiery opposition to our invasion of Iraq in 2003 and his faithful devotion to universal health care as he voted in favor of ACA while dedicating his vote to the late Senator Kennedy, a one time adversary. I hope I can someday honestly hold President-elect Trump's achievements on balance in the same high esteem as I do those of the late Senator Byrd.

As far as the KKK goes, Byrd belonged and then renounced it, and Trump has managed to steer clear of it, although not without getting at least tongue-tied more than a few times over the value of political support from followers of past KKK member David Duke, who is still active as a white nationalist and Holocaust denier.

And by the way no one's throwing Mr. Trump out of the Republican Party. Somebody tells you different just chalk it up to hyperbole for the time being anyway. In fact Donald Trump was kinda throwing the Republican Party on its ear for most of the season and it's still to be settled out what, exactly, the Republican Party will be now going forward. I'd say Mr. Trump's in the catbird seat on that score for the moment. The GOP "brung him to the dance" but he won the dance contest with half the party trying to hide in the bushes outside the gym. It's up to them to figure out what to do with their hybrid "Republican President-elect" at this point. It's up to Trump to figure out the lay of the congressional landscape and see how malleable some of the members are to his views regardless of party. At this point I guess the RNC is reduced to hoping that the guy's really one of them.

Anyway here are Byrd and Trump on the subject of politics and the KKK. First Senator Byrd:

In 1997, Byrd told an interviewer he would encourage young people to become involved in politics but also warned, "Be sure you avoid the Ku Klux Klan. Don't get that albatross around your neck. Once you've made that mistake, you inhibit your operations in the political arena." In his last autobiography, Byrd explained that he was a KKK member because he "was sorely afflicted with tunnel vision — a jejune and immature outlook — seeing only what I wanted to see because I thought the Klan could provide an outlet for my talents and ambitions." Byrd also said, in 2005, "I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times ... and I don't mind apologizing over and over again. I can't erase what happened."

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd

Trump was very clear about where he stood on the KKK when he declined to run with the Reform party back in the year 2000, then kinda faltered in 2016 although he eventually got back into more or less that 2000 groove when confronted on it. Here he was in 2000:

“The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr. (Pat) Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. (Lenora) Fulani. This is not company I wish to keep.”
Trump, during the early 2016 GOP primary race was a little more... confused?.. about the matter of the KKK and its supporters. The Anti-Defamation League called on him to renounce the support of David Duke, former KKK klansman and still politically active white nationalist and Holocaust denier. Trump had this to say:

"I know nothing about David Duke. I know nothing about white supremacists.
And so you're asking me a question that I'm supposed to be talking about people
that I know nothing about."
Trump, three days later:

David Duke is a bad person, who I disavowed on numerous occasions over the years,” Trump said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

I disavowed him. I disavowed the KKK,” Trump added. “Do you want me to do it again for the 12th time? I disavowed him in the past, I disavow him now.”
Sources for the above quotes from Trump:


I find it fascinating and not especially reassuring that Trump took Pat Buchanan to task in 1992 for overt intolerance and then ran his whole 2016 platform on the same exact foundations:

Trump wrote in his 2000 campaign book The America We Deserve, “Pat Buchanan has been guilty of many egregious examples of intolerance. He has systematically bashed Blacks, Mexicans, and Gays.”

Trump, oddly enough, said Buchanan had said too many outrageous things to be president.

“Simply put, Pat Buchanan has written too many inflammatory, outrageous, and controversial things to ever be elected president,” wrote Trump in his book.

source: https://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/donald-trump-praises-man-he-once-called-a-neo-nazi
It's disconcerting to read that, in the remembered light of Trump's 2016 tweet storms and campaign riffs from the stump. However I am not one to peg anyone permanently into some particular pigeonhole in the spectrum of politics or character. We all make mistakes, we all can change if we will. This is a country that has long celebrated opportunity to change our circumstances, express our views, make up our own minds about someone anew based on what we see of that person as he develops over time. I would give that courtesy to anyone, so why would I not give it to our next President. I just hope he will extend it to all of us in turn.
 
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More sicking that 60m people could see this video and still vote for him.
If the dems had put ANYONE else up they would have won. Sorry but Trump was picked so Hillary could win and she still blew it.
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Trump never said minorities were going to be deported. He said people who are in this country illegally were going to be deported. There are ******s who voted for all the candidates who will always be ******s to other human beings, unfortunately.

Personally, I think if you break the law -- as people who have come into the U.S. illegally have -- they should be concerned that their crimes may now eventually be found out and there could be consequences. It bothers me that the passive nature of border enforcement in the U.S. has gotten to the point that people willfully break the law and then don't live in fear of the potential consequences of their actions. I'm glad that people who have broken U.S. law are now considering the fact that their actions may have real consequences. Maybe that fear will also dissuade others who are currently considering coming into this country illegally.

Now it has evolved into Violent Criminal Illegals - those are the only ones he wants to deport. People need to chill - if Trump goes too far the SYSTEM will STOP him - they can't afford to let him go to far and put their life time money grab at risk.
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Uh the exact opposite would happen. The entire campaign would have to change. Candidate right now focus on swing states and ignore most of the country because of electorate votes.

The electoral college is antiquated. We no longer need it.
Horse hockey Democracy is evil - when 50.1 can control 49.9 that is bad. This system is set up to protect the STATES from the over reach of BIG STATES. I personally think the electors should be divided up by congressional Districts not by states like Maine and Nebraska do. But is is an amazing system that gives every state power in the election since we are a REPUBLIC - we are not a democracy.
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Tim is just disappointed that America elected it's first Molester-in-Chief.

Can't blame him.
Bill Clinton filed that role first - and I think most president have done so....
 
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Oh good lord Tim, just **** and run your damn company

He'll lose all of his special snowflake customers.

Ridiculous that he even had to send this email, like Trump is going to send death squads to kill us minorities or something, Jesus. Alinsky sure raised a generation of winners.

If you're that scared, maybe exercise your second amendment rights and get a gun to protect yourself and your families. At least Trump might let you do that.
 
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Democrats need to shut their trap and let the Republicans govern for the next 4 years. We have Republicans in charge of government in the executive, legislative and soon enough, judiciary. We could conceivably have 7 republicans and 2 democrats in the supreme court in the next couple of years.

If lucky, we will:
- dismantle obamacare
- introduce legislation that makes gay marriage illegal
- eliminate medicare and social security
- eliminate all social programs
- privatize all education
- make collective bargaining illegal
- open up all federal lands for fossil fuel exploration
- get rid of the EPA, HUD, Dept of Education
- flatten out the tax code (get rid of AMT, estate taxes, luxury taxes)

And when all the democrats starts feeling the effects of the election for which they sat and chose not to come out to vote, do not expect any sympathy from anyone.
I honestly, hand on heart can't tell if this is a joke post or not.
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Ridiculous that he even had to send this email, like Trump is going to send death squads to kill us minorities or something, Jesus. Alinsky sure raised a generation of winners.
(I'm going to assume you mean whiners)

Remind me what lengths Republicans have gone to prevent women from abortions, or how much they fought to stop gay marriage, or put the pill on insurance, or what they think about "dems coming to take their guns".

I'm not American and I'm a floating voter. But come on now. Have you seen how upset republicans get over things that don't even affect them. What's all that about?
 
I'm not American and I'm a floating voter. But come on now. Have you seen how upset republicans get over things that don't even affect them. What's all that about?

Where did I mention Republicans?

EDIT: I assume you were replying to the person you first quoted. I got confused.
 
I will never accept Trump. There will be no unity. We will fight this racist piece of s*** until his last day in office. If Apple embraces this fascist pig then I'll boycott Apple.

I'm pretty sure people called for unity when Hitler ceased power in Germany. Trump is wrong. We will oppose him at every moment in his presidency.


We just spent eight years watching the Republicans do that to a Democratic president. It did not benefit the country to have that headwind facing the USA's leader all that time. I did not vote for Trump and do not really regret that Clinton lost either. It was a dumpster fire of an election with flawed candidates.

The country didn't exactly flip a coin but turnout was lower than usual and enthusiasm was a word no one remembered how to spell. We ended up with Mr. Trump as incoming Prez #45. He's a political novice, which is interesting (possibly in the sense the Chinese are said to mean when they wish that you may live in "interesting" times). Fortunately we will have a Senate and a House of Representatives that will form a 115th Congress with roughly the same composition as the 114th Congress.

So while we may bemoan gridlock, and we won't have exactly that this time since both houses do in fact have Republican majorities, we are not likely to see a situation where a new president manages to derail the country from its democratic ways forward. After all, it's in the interests of the entire Senate and House, not just the GOP members, that the USA continue to function as a democratic superpower. Mr. Trump can bank on getting legislative guidance whether he fancies it or not. He's just a President, not an emperor.

Meanwhile it's courteous to give a President-elect the benefit of the doubt. We have a very public transition period in US presidential power transfer. We the public get to express our opinions as names are floated for Cabinet appointments and so forth. Take advantage of that freedom and let the transition team know what you think.

On policy matters, when the 115th Congress is sworn in, find out your Congresscritters' phone numbers and social media handles are and don't be shy. If you're courteous you're more likely to get a reasoned response from the staffers. If you're a genius at problem solving, Uncle Sam needs your input.

If you're just an armchair quarterback then please don't waste the US taxpayers' money asking congressional staffers to consider "solutions" that run a dime a dozen, like "Please go to hell". We elected these guys and have to pay them and their staffers, and they're ours for the next two to six years depending on their post and when elected.

We pay congressional office help whether they read "go to hell" or "Here's how I would ensure all states have monies for child care subsidies instead of making block grants to the states" -- so if you're against waste and abuse in government, look in the mirror before pegging BS at your representatives. After all, if you send it, its final step is into archives for which taxpayers also shell out dough.

The way to keep a President on track for the country's good is let the President and your representatives in the House and Senate know what you think that right track is. They're not going to know it by reading it out of this forum. Do your homework and find out how to help guide the country forward more directly.
 
As a foreigner witnessing this US election, something that has surprised me is how many Americans so overtly mix their professional lives and private politics.

This email from Tim Cook is, I suppose, a reaction to expected divisions within Apple.

Perhaps it is a product of my British upbringing, where it is customary to keep ones political opinions to oneself. But I find it quite appalling that if you vote for a candidate who is unpopular in a particular setting - for example being a Trump voter working in Silicon Valley - you don't just have to defend yourself in times of political debate, but instead it consumes everything and you must face a torrent of opposition in your work, your hobbies, and your friendship groups.

The Americans do a lot of stuff way better than us Brits, but I think we're right on this: save your politics for times of political debate, not your day-to-day professional and social lives.

If people did this, Tim Cook would not have had to send this email.

After the Brexit vote, we didn't have British CEOs sending out emails urging "unity" - we just got on with it. It's democracy.

No-one should have to fear going to work the next day because of who they voted for, and I think Cook's email shows he thought some people did.
 
Horse hockey Democracy is evil - when 50.1 can control 49.9 that is bad.

Exactly. Brexit passed by 52 to 48. IMO, that's too narrow a margin to completely upend the status quo. I think it should have required at least 60% of the votes to pass. Maybe Presidental elections should be like that too. Actually, originally, the person who got the most votes became President and the runner-up would be the VP. Actually, in most recent elections, that wouldn't have been a bad arrangement. President Bush with VP Gore, Obama with VP McCain, and now, Trump with VP Clinton. :D
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Bill Clinton filed that role first - and I think most president have done so....

Unfortunately, true. But now, its become more socially unacceptable to take advantage of women, so, back in 1984, Gary Hart's campaign collapsed when he was caught dallying with a woman not his wife, Bill Clinton was impeached, and it almost caused Trump campaign to implode. So... Progress? At least compared to when it was totally ignored / considered acceptable for powerful men to take sexual advantage of women.
 
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Where did I mention Republicans?

EDIT: I assume you were replying to the person you first quoted. I got confused.
It seems you did. No I was commenting to you. You bemoaned left wingers for moaning about things, I just find it funny that's even a topic to bring up after everything republicans did during Obama.
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Tim giving his millennials a group hug.
Poor babies didn't get what they wanted. :(
Another person to direct towards "what republicans did during Obama".

I guess it's a global thing to think 'the other side' are moaners. Here we had Brexit, and after the vote Leave supporters said Remain supporters were moaning, whinging, etc. And yet they forget about Eurosceptics and their decades of moaning.

How about this: Everyone just stops saying your political opponents are moaning unless your side has been perfectly accepting.
 
This email from Tim Cook is, I suppose, a reaction to expected divisions within Apple.

Personally, I don't think he did it because there is division at Apple. If so, he would have written a letter like this after every election. Even though it's addressed to Apple employees, it's meant to be read by the world, and it's meant to show that Apple stands by its core values, even though a man was elected President who seems to stand in opposition to those values.
 
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Conversely, if those hypothetical workers were paid decent wages, an iPhone would cost $2000.

Not true. They would cost the same as now, Apple would just not continue to make 40% margin on every iPhone sold. Apple would simply make a lot less profit.

I would be happy with that because Apple's profits don't benefit anyone any way. They don't spend it, the don't give it to shareholders and they don't use it pay a fair tax rate. Take it away and make them build stuff in the US and create jobs.
 
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As a foreigner witnessing this US election, something that has surprised me is how many Americans so overtly mix their professional lives and private politics.

This email from Tim Cook is, I suppose, a reaction to expected divisions within Apple.

Perhaps it is a product of my British upbringing, where it is customary to keep ones political opinions to oneself. But I find it quite appalling that if you vote for a candidate who is unpopular in a particular setting - for example being a Trump voter working in Silicon Valley - you don't just have to defend yourself in times of political debate, but instead it consumes everything and you must face a torrent of opposition in your work, your hobbies, and your friendship groups.

The Americans do a lot of stuff way better than us Brits, but I think we're right on this: save your politics for times of political debate, not your day-to-day professional and social lives.

If people did this, Tim Cook would not have had to send this email.

After the Brexit vote, we didn't have British CEOs sending out emails urging "unity" - we just got on with it. It's democracy.

No-one should have to fear going to work the next day because of who they voted for, and I think Cook's email shows he thought some people did.

I am also a foreigner, however in the US for a long time. It is the place to be with lots of opportunities, despite all of it's flaws. (Nothing is perfect)
I think this election was a protest against government as usual, be that republican or democratic.
Clinton stood for business as usual, whereas Trump was a businessman and not a politician.
His personal insults, view points or unfiltered talk didn't matter. People are looking for a way out of politics as usual and want change. That change would not have come with Clinton.

We'll have to see if Trump can even do half of what he boasted about. There are laws to follow, budgets pre-spent before the tax dollars come in and many topics which are not any governments business, like sexual orientation, etc.

The last few years the Republicans lost partly because they always wanted to tell people how to live their lives.
It is nobody's business to worry about a person being gay, or if somebody is having an abortion.
People act as if those choices are easy. If something doesn't effect you, why do I have to tell others what to do?

This election shows clearly the flaws of the US election system, where it is impossible for a third party to gain foothold and in the end you have to choose the lesser evil.

Already we see the "adjusted" trump. His first "presidential" speech was well written and presented. (Wonder who did that one)

It will be interesting to see what he can really do as a non career politician. In the beginning he probably didn't care whether he was going to be elected and figured I'll say what I want to shake things up.

As he learns what is and isn't possible, he may be an okay president.

More shocking than his election is how divided the country now is and how they do not want to adhere to democracy, when they don't get their way. Protesting, like children with tantrums.

For all I know the US tradition to assassinate a president or candidate to make things right may continue. One can only hope, not!

When I got to this country and was invited to a party amongst colleagues, some well meaning person once told me: Don't talk about politics and religion. That advice is still good.

Tim Cook did the right thing addressing it, regardless of his personal viewpoints.
Just too many employees to be mum about things.

My 2 Euro cents
 
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Agree, a terribly flawed candidate. How bad was Clinton that she couldn't beat him?

Not as bad as the DNC that leaned on the scale to get her there when she could have got there on her own because she had the qualifications. Not as bad as the right wing still out to get her for having got so far out of place for a woman that she ended up in outlandish places like the US Senate, and top of the State Department. But pretty bad, yeah.. Reckless, arrogant. Like a lot of guys, only wearing lipstick. Like Trump, only with not so many bad raps from contractors and banks. And a few extra raps for mishandling classified gossip for all I know. A pox on the FBI for wavering in the face of politically minded minions. Etc., etc.

However, the election is over. I accept Trump as my country's President-elect. I can hardly wait for 2020 in the depths of my heart. But, maybe Mr. Trump will be a good president, so I won't denounce him before he gets to make the effort he's sworn to take on once January 20th rolls around.
 
Democrats need to shut their trap and let the Republicans govern for the next 4 years. We have Republicans in charge of government in the executive, legislative and soon enough, judiciary. We could conceivably have 7 republicans and 2 democrats in the supreme court in the next couple of years.

If lucky, we will:
- dismantle obamacare
- introduce legislation that makes gay marriage illegal
- eliminate medicare and social security
- eliminate all social programs
- privatize all education
- make collective bargaining illegal
- open up all federal lands for fossil fuel exploration
- get rid of the EPA, HUD, Dept of Education
- flatten out the tax code (get rid of AMT, estate taxes, luxury taxes)

And when all the democrats starts feeling the effects of the election for which they sat and chose not to come out to vote, do not expect any sympathy from anyone.

God bless president elect Trump, he will do all this!!!!!!
 
Democrats need to shut their trap and let the Republicans govern for the next 4 years. We have Republicans in charge of government in the executive, legislative and soon enough, judiciary. We could conceivably have 7 republicans and 2 democrats in the supreme court in the next couple of years.

If lucky, we will:
- dismantle obamacare
- introduce legislation that makes gay marriage illegal
- eliminate medicare and social security
- eliminate all social programs
- privatize all education
- make collective bargaining illegal
- open up all federal lands for fossil fuel exploration
- get rid of the EPA, HUD, Dept of Education
- flatten out the tax code (get rid of AMT, estate taxes, luxury taxes)

And when all the democrats starts feeling the effects of the election for which they sat and chose not to come out to vote, do not expect any sympathy from anyone.


God bless president elect Trump, he will do all this!!!!!!

Yeah no, he won't. There are plenty of Republicans who will not go for that list. Which list, as someone else wondered, makes me wonder if it was a joke. Seriously, that list made me laugh out loud after a moment of appalled shock. Then I realized that as a goal it might ring true for the farthest right of the rump caucus there in the House, but as a reality in the Senate? No way. Trump would not favor all those items. The Congress could not override his veto. Even I give the man some credit!

As far as turnout goes, I agree there, but you know voters, they are said to have a 14-week memory but lately it's more like six weeks, or maybe six days. So in another week no one will remember having voted for Trump, and no one who didn't vote will remember having signed up to be steamrolled. That's how we are in America, stalwart in our refusal to accept blame for anything. It's all "their" fault...
 
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More shocking than his election is how divided the country now is and how they do not want to adhere to democracy, when they don't get their way. Protesting, like children with tantrums.

Peaceful protest is an important part of the democratic process. It's not necessarily the same as throwing temper tantrums. In this instance, it lets Trump and his supporters know that they have work to do to win over the people he alienated through his words and actions during the election, and during his business dealings.
 
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Why are you going back to 2007. There is no US city with enough low skilled workers to churn out the number of iPhones Apple churns out. Of course labor costs would be more expensive too. Also it would be incredibly inefficient considering so many of the components come from Asian suippliers or are also manufactured in Asia. Apple is a global company. Just because it's headquartered in the US doesn't mean it's products have to be manufactured here. Honestly I'd rather have the engineers designing this hardware and software as part of my labor force than a bunch of low skilled workers on an assembly line. Let China, India, Vietnam etc. have those jobs.

Cause in 2007 any US city could have built 1.4 million iPhones. In 2007 only 1.4 million sold and no one knew the huge success it would become....And when it becomes the phenomenon that it did you would have justification to move it to China .

Of the modern macs, I'm proud of my Mac Pro the most cause it's made in the US....I'm not even American.

As for Apple being global.....does not feel that way with so many services being US centric, it's still very much aimed for the US.....until recently ...with China
 
As a foreigner witnessing this US election, something that has surprised me is how many Americans so overtly mix their professional lives and private politics.

This email from Tim Cook is, I suppose, a reaction to expected divisions within Apple.

Perhaps it is a product of my British upbringing, where it is customary to keep ones political opinions to oneself. But I find it quite appalling that if you vote for a candidate who is unpopular in a particular setting - for example being a Trump voter working in Silicon Valley - you don't just have to defend yourself in times of political debate, but instead it consumes everything and you must face a torrent of opposition in your work, your hobbies, and your friendship groups.

The Americans do a lot of stuff way better than us Brits, but I think we're right on this: save your politics for times of political debate, not your day-to-day professional and social lives.

If people did this, Tim Cook would not have had to send this email.

After the Brexit vote, we didn't have British CEOs sending out emails urging "unity" - we just got on with it. It's democracy.

No-one should have to fear going to work the next day because of who they voted for, and I think Cook's email shows he thought some people did.


The problem with that is, both parties are shaped in reflection of the sharp social contrast. You can guess the average person's political party, and 99 out of 100 times your guess would be correct.
 
No, I'm sure there are some Mexican rapists, just as there are white rapists, Asian rapists, black rapists, rich rapists, poor rapists... you get the idea.

It's using "there are Mexican rapists" as an excuse for deporting illegal immigrants that I disagree with. Deport them, don't deport them, there are arguments for both sides. "Because some of them might be rapists/criminals" is stereotyping, and casting bad light on an entire group of people, and that, to me, is racism.
The fact that the are here illegally means they are breaking the law. What is the point of a law if it is not enforced. Then add on that some of them are also breaking other laws, do you think we should just turn a blind eye to it? Maybe give them food stamps and free medical?
 
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Trump actually used the word "damn" ? He must of been cheesed off..

U can always tell someone by the statements they make before an election .. Hopefully it'll pass, but i doubt it,, based on how determined he was. I just hope Apple knows what they really are heading into. (if all of this is true)
 
If the dems had put ANYONE else up they would have won. Sorry but Trump was picked so Hillary could win and she still blew it.
I don't know about this. I think people who didn't vote at all in previous elections came out and voted for Trump. I can't imagine a Democrat voting for Trump, and the Democrat-ish third party alternative, Jill Stein of the Green Party, didn't receive many votes.

What's so bad about Hillary Clinton? I can't think of a more standard Democratic candidate. She's pretty much the same as Obama. She had support from Obama, tons of celebrities, and all the special interests, while Trump didn't even have support from his own party! And she's probably the most experienced U.S. politician in service.

P.S. I voted for H. Clinton.
 
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