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You literally sound like every Trump supporter. Disastrous? In what way? You mean the economic boom that Trump is riding and taking credit for?
You sound like every Obama supporter. Taking credit for an economy he didn’t create. Ironic things picked up economically after Obama left office. He couldn’t get the economy moving past a crawl because he expanded government and regulated to oblivion. Take off the revisionist glasses. Obama was literally a fabricated poster child of the progressive left. The man came out of nowhere and gave a speech at the 2004 DNC, then was elected as a senator representing one of the most corrupt ill-run districts in Illinois (or even the country), voted present majority of the time, and convinced the country that making a hard left politically would the ‘hope and change’ we needed. He’s a fraud.
 
Isn't this just stating the obvious? no one is gonna say "yes hate speech is fine on our platform"

Sadly, it boils down to if they can make money off of it. Of course they will label/spin it differently.
Look at Apple’s own iTunes Store and all the songs with racial slur’s and promotion of violence against women and others in them. Yet THAT is okay because they call it “art” NOT “hate speech”.
 
How come a dissucian about "hate speech" has turned into "nazi/fascist/racist"

Can people not see people on the left can say bad things?

And people on the right can say bad things?

It's nothing to do with your political leanings
 
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Lastly, there has been a huge misinformation regarding the Nazis in books and movies. I will post below undeniable proof that Nazis didn’t hate other people or minorities!

Yes, and by invading Poland they were just showing their love and they just loved all those Jewish people to death, literally in this case.
 
Oh yeah. I like Trump so I am a Nazi. Right.

I’m Jewish, so I guess I’m huge Trump supporting Nazi. You really hit the nail on the head!
i wasnt implying trump supporters are nazis, merely pointing out how after the rise of the right discrimnation is being masked as free speech.
dont put words in my mouth
 
i wasnt implying trump supporters are nazis, merely pointing out how after the rise of the right discrimnation is being masked as free speech.
dont put words in my mouth

There is no “right discrimination”. That is only a term you came up with in your mind. It’s so amusing how the Marxist culture has ingrained in peoples minds And you associate the right wing ideology with the worst of humanity.

How come you don’t mention the discrimination and the mass murdering of millions from the communist the regime of Stalin too?

Unless you want to tell me Stalin didn’t commit mass murder and that he didn’t lead to mass starvation of his own people, the gulags etc.
 
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There is no “right discrimination”. That is only a term you came up with an excuse in your mind. It’s so musing call the Marxist culture has ingrained in peoples minds And you associate the right wing ideology with the worst of humanity. How come you don’t mention the discrimination and the mass murdering millions from the communist the regime of Stalin too?
Unless you want to tell me Stalin didn’t commit mass murder and that he didn’t lead to mass starvation of his own people, gulags etc.
rise of the right, discrimination.

sorry, punctuation!

i do associate the right with a lot of ideas that are holding the society back. i mean, its right in the name “conservative”, but thats not the point here.
 
Bingo. ADL says a cartoon frog is hate speech. ADL and Southern Poverty Law Center are Leftist, perpetually-offended lunacy.
Life sucks for the right-wing. If they had any skills, they would know how to not be such victims of us leftists.
 
Doesn’t the "Right of Free Speech" mean you can put forward any ideology, however terrible, and let the people decide if it's good?

Or should someone be monitoring it? (which means you haven't got free speech)
 
rise of the right, discrimination.

sorry, punctuation!

Still that’s not true. Why do you associate automatically in your mind, right ideology with discrimination?
There is no such thing, that is just a big misinformation and propaganda by the Marxist culture to demonize nationalists and right wingers.

Right wing does NOT discriminate Against other races or colors.
You can say it discriminates against communism and Marxist ideas.
Nationalists celebrate the beauty of separate independent nations and different colors.

Communist ideology want to crush individualist and diverse ethno states, under one communist flag.
 
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Who gets to decide what constitutes hate speech? Is it a panel? Can I be on it?

Well, usually there is a constitution, there are laws, there are court rulings, and common decency .
All of those combined define what is considered hate speech, and where one's liberty ends in that respect .
It's hard to explain to some people, how freedom isn't absolute and there is none without responsibility and accountability, all that brainy stuff .

And yes, there are a variety of 'panels' to make those decissions ; let's just say it's a democracy thing , to keep your head from exploding .

And no, you can't be on any of those panels .
 
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Still that’s not true. Why do you associate automatically in your mind, right ideology with discrimination?
There is no such thing, that is just a big misinformation and propaganda buy the Marxist culture to demonize nationalists and right wingers.

Right wing does NOT discriminate Against other races or colors.
You can say it discriminates against communism and Marxist ideas.
Nationalisrs celebrate the beauty of separate independent nations and different colors.

Communist ideology want to crush individualist and diverse ethno states, under one communist flag.
i didnt associate discrimination with the right, i said that since the rise of the right, discrimination is often passed as free speech. i didnt imply only the right discriminates, but i do believe that the right was the catalyst for it... antifa couldnt have happened before the recent right insurgence because it wouldnt be tolerated, but since everything passes as free speech now, a lot of discrimination and hate speech just passes off as “diversity of thought”.

nationalist and nazi is not the same, but the line between is very fine here.
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Doesn’t the "Right of Free Speech" mean you can put forward any ideology, however terrible, and let the people decide if it's good?

Or should someone be monitoring it? (which means you haven't got free speech)

no dont think so. thats the will of the majority, and if theoretically the majority of usa becomes nonwhite you could have white slavery by that logic. since, you know, majority.
there’s a reason why minorities are shielded, and it mostly has to do with historically horrible treatment of them by the majority.
 
Doesn’t the "Right of Free Speech" mean you can put forward any ideology, however terrible, and let the people decide if it's good?

Or should someone be monitoring it? (which means you haven't got free speech)

No, free speech does not mean impunity .
Frankly, it is a very ignorant thing to say .
You are advocaticing anarchy - the absence of rule and liberty for just a few .

Speech is action, actions have consequences . Everyone is and needs to be responsible for his actions and their consequences .

The price you pay for freedom is responsibility and obeying the law .
 
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Give me a break. Apple and Cook have made their fortunes dealing with a country that has no freedom of thought,
no freedom of expression, no freedom of publication and
zippo human rights; a country that routinely jails and executes dissenters (10,000 college students alone at Tian An Men Square shot dead or squashed to death by tanks, add a few hundred thousand Fa Lun Gong practitioners, and who knows how many ethnic Chinese Muslims,) and has even
criminalized the children's story "Winnie the Pooh" declaring it hate speech against Chairman Xi.

Stop giving speeches and patting yourself on the back for being some holy knight in shining armor. You are a man
whose only principles are CASH.
 
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Give me a break. Apple and Cook have made their fortunes dealing with a country that has no freedom of thought,
no freedom of expression, no freedom of publication and
no human rights; a country that routinely jails and executes dissenters, even
criminalizing the children's story "Winnie the Pooh" declaring it hate speech against Chairman Xi.

Stop giving speeches and patting yourself on the back for being some holy knight in shining armor. You are a man
whose only principles are CASH.

Apparently, communist oppressive regimes that discriminate and mass murder their own people are ok to the likes of Tim and other leftists. What a bunch of hypocrites. Truly disgusting.
 
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And yet Apple continues to have a partnerships with the New York Times and continues to co-brand with them after they appointed an open racist and bigot to their Editorial Board.
 
Doesn’t the "Right of Free Speech" mean you can put forward any ideology, however terrible, and let the people decide if it's good?

Or should someone be monitoring it? (which means you haven't got free speech)

Traditionally, at least in the U.S., the notion of free speech has referred to governments not being allowed to tell people what they can say (or must say) or punish them for what they have said (or failed to say). It has not traditionally referred to private actors not being allowed to, in effect, censor speech.

Speech - to include much of that which is often referred to as hate speech - is, for the most part, protected against government bans and punishment. It is not protected against private actors holding the speakers accountable or, e.g., choosing not to associate with them in response to their speech.

Society - through the actions or private individuals rather than through collective sovereign power - is free to hold speakers accountable as it sees fit. That doesn't mean the right to free speech is lost.
 
Paying appropriate taxes, ensuring assembly-plant employees are fairly compensated and have humane working conditions, these things eat into profit. Profits which Apple re-invest almost none of, simply sucking the money out of the economy while they scheme on how to not pay any tax at all. But buying off the professional activist class with Orwellian right-think censorship, that's free.

Also curious that Apple isn't pulling music that could be taken as homophobic, misogynistic, or promoting violence or criminality. Nor those promoting racial/ethnic/national superiority and/or separatism from any group but whites (at stated).
 
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