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I applaud President Trump's action. Not because I hate immigrants, but because I think it's important to find out who's actually coming into your country. If you let in every single person blindly, you're only putting your people at risk. And one of the primary jobs of the leader of a country, is to keep his people safe. And by signing this executive order, Trump (or at least those who are in charge of the nation's security) is given time to find out who they really are.

It's controversial, I get that. Especially since America has been the country of the free etc. etc. And it's not something I would support all the time. Not at all, in fact. But if this can help the Trump administration to come up with ideas to make America safe again (or to speak for the liberals: to keep America safe), I believe it's the best way. It's only temporary after all..

By the way, I do think green card holders should be allowed to enter the United States, because, well... it's a green card, right? Don't think he will, but Trump should definitely change the order to allow those people.

Oh, this letter to me sounds a bit whiny, to be honest. Mr. Cook should focus on his products, not politics.

So sick of the "make america safe" argument. If you want to ban muslims then let's ban all white males since they are the ones who have done 95% of the worst mass killings in this country.
 
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And Obama suffered from a severe case of narcissistic personality disorder. Next.

Wait, why on earth do you think that's a defence? One person in the conversation is actually talking about the present. You're so mad about the past that you can't see what's in front of you. The USA is in deep deep trouble. If you want to keep saying 'Oh, but Obama...but Hilary would have...' then be prepared to be called out on that. It's easy really. Talk about the current predicament, or talk about transgressions of past Presidents. One thing is for sure though - Trump is a problem for a hell of a lot of people who are making themselves heard and inspiring people to action around the globe. If you want to hide from that, fine. But don't pretend to know what you're on about.
 
Why why is a temporary freeze on immigration to properly inspect the vetting process a problem? Cook should spend more time thinking about Apple's products.
People with VISA's who were properly vetted trying to enter the country were stopped. Apple operates in many countries and has people flying all over the world on business that were potentially stranded and/or prevented from doing their jobs in the future. This is a valid issue for a CEO to send an internal memo to their employees. And every major tech firm commented on it. There is no need to be a Trump apologist.
 
Wait, why on earth do you think that's a defence? One person in the conversation is actually talking about the present. You're so mad about the past that you can't see what's in front of you. The USA is in deep deep trouble. If you want to keep saying 'Oh, but Obama...but Hilary would have...' then be prepared to be called out on that. It's easy really. Talk about the current predicament, or talk about transgressions of past Presidents. One thing is for sure though - Trump is a problem for a hell of a lot of people who are making themselves heard and inspiring people to action around the globe. If you want to hide from that, fine. But don't pretend to know what you're on about.

As long as Trump continues to enforce laws his predecessors would not we'll be just fine.
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People with VISA's who were properly vetted trying to enter the country were stopped. Apple operates in many countries and has people flying all over the world on business that were potentially stranded and/or prevented from doing their jobs in the future. This is a valid issue for a CEO to send an internal memo to their employees. And every major tech firm commented on it. There is no need to be a Trump apologist.

And a judge lifted that ban. Moving on.
 
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They aren't in the law so Congress would need to add them to the list. Therefore Trump has no authority to issue the order with regard to Pakistan or a Saudi or he would be creating law.

Once again, the obvious escapes people. Trump is enforcing laws already on the books. The only part he got wrong was denying already approved Visas, but why not swing for the fence and take the triple.

Hilarious, you make it sound as if Saudi Arabia might be put on the list in a later stage while the real reason why Trump is only nitpicking on certain countries, and not on Saudi Arabia, is pure business interest. Nothing more and nothing les.. This, by exception, is no rocket science.
 
Hilarious, you make it sound as if Saudi Arabia might be put on the list in a later stage while the real reason why Trump is only nitpicking on certain countries, and not on Saudi Arabia, is pure business interest. Nothing more and nothing les.. This, by exception, is no rocket science.

How about you stay home on this one:

https://www.cbp.gov/travel/internat...ement-and-terrorist-travel-prevention-act-faq

Or maybe become familiar with our imigration laws. Those countries were already on the list. Presidents don't make law, Congress does. Executive orders, as this one does, should remain within the confines of those laws. I know this is seems like a new concept after 8 years of Obama and 8 years of Bush, but people will get used to it.
 
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I agree - moving on to the next moronic un-American thing the Oompa Loompa has up his sleeve.
 
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I don't agree with everything Trump is doing. But if one thing is certain it's that Washington is not operating like people are used to. Trump said he would do things and he's done them. People are so used to Washington saying something and then it's talked about for years and bipartisan committees are formed and comprehensive legislation is proposed and then more and more talk...and in the end that thing they were talking about doesn't happen and is forgotten.
 
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It's unconstitutional and un-american and goes against everything this nation has stood for. None of the countries where the ban impacts have ANYTHING to do with terrorism against America. He bans these countries, but NOT the countries, where he has a direct financial interest, who HAS spawned terrorist attacks against the US. IT'S FEAR MONGERING at it's absolute worst. It breeds even MORE hatred against the US and you can't tell me this won't radicalize people who are ALREADY here and were peaceful. Do I need to go on?

Please take a deep breath and become informed about US imigration policy:

https://www.cbp.gov/travel/internat...ement-and-terrorist-travel-prevention-act-faq
 
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How can one NOT agree with what Tim just said?

I admit I hardly ever agree with what he does or says. But this one is a no-brainer really.

At least something Apple trolls and fanboys can agree on...
 
As long as Trump continues to enforce laws his predecessors would not we'll be just fine.
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And a judge lifted that ban. Moving on.
yup - moving on to the next moronic, un-American thing the Oompa Loompa has up his sleeve.
 
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It's unconstitutional and un-american and goes against everything this nation has stood for. None of the countries where the ban impacts have ANYTHING to do with terrorism against America. He bans these countries, but NOT the countries, where he has a direct financial interest, who HAS spawned terrorist attacks against the US. IT'S FEAR MONGERING at it's absolute worst. It breeds even MORE hatred against the US and you can't tell me this won't radicalize people who are ALREADY here and were peaceful. Do I need to go on?

If these people are that easy to radicalize it sounds like Trump made the right choice and should make it permanent. Also there is nothing in the constitution that says the US has to take in immigrants from all countries. The only interactions with courts was detaining/deporting people with valid visas and that is only a stay.
 
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I just can't for the life of me understand why anyone would object to this. We are at war with Islam and those people are trying to get into our country to carry out acts of terrorism. It is only logical to limit their entrance into our country until we have a handle on the situation. Do you think that Roosevelt allowed Germans and Japanese to freely enter our country during WWII? If this was peace time and the Islam faith didn't want us all dead, I'd say let everyone in through the proper channels.
 
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The constitution does mean something, as does enforcement of existing law. Did you not read the law I posted for you that his executive order directs government employees to enforce?
Just did. I see that it was indeed written into law in 2002 by the patriot act bunch. I appreciate the link because I now see it was indeed there. I just don't think it's wise and/or legal to ban entry from an entire region because a minority of their population can be considered terrorist.

Everyone should just trust that trumps "extreme vetting" will do enough.

Sorry I missed your link earlier, you either added it after I replied or MR didn't show it because it wasn't there
 
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yup - moving on to the next moronic, un-American thing the Oompa Loompa has up his sleeve.

Go for the home run, take the triple they give you. Trumps done nothing that's "in-American", unless ticking off the left is someone "un-American" now. It appears this is the case.
 
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How can one NOT agree with what Tim just said?

I admit I hardly ever agree with what he does or says. But this one is a no-brainer really.

At least something Apple trolls and fanboys can agree on...

He should be thinking about revving macs that have been left to wither or hand the job to someone who will.
 
Just did. Believe it or not I have more to do then read MR posts. I see that it was indeed written into law in 2002 by the patriot act bunch. I appreciate the link because I now see it was indeed there. I just don't think it's wise and/or legal to ban entry from an entire region because a minority of their population can be considered terrorist.

That's not why it's being done, the problem is fake passports are rampant and the visa review process is a mess. These are the only places he can lawfully do this or there would have been others. Would you rather they come here and get held and sent back or hold them there until proper proceedures can be adhered to?
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He should be thinking about revving macs that have been left to wither or hand the job to someone who will.

Dear God. At this point I'd just take a major update for Safari.
 
Do you think that Roosevelt allowed Germans and Japanese to freely enter our country during WWII


Precisely ... take a read of this and the American paranoia of the day

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I just can't for the life of me understand why anyone would object to this. We are at war with Islam and those people are trying to get into our country to carry out acts of terrorism. It is only logical to limit their entrance into our country until we have a handle on the situation. Do you think that Roosevelt allowed Germans and Japanese to freely enter our country during WWII? If this was peace time and the Islam faith didn't want us all dead, I'd say let everyone in through the proper channels.

You know why you can't understand? Because some of us - especially CEOs of large multinational corporations - are much more intelligent, educated, and better traveled than you are. Have you visited the Middle East? How many Muslims have you ever actually met? I'm going to take a wild guess: none.

You are mistakenly confusing the actions of terrorist, non-state groups with being at war with nation-states. We are not at war with an entire religion. Trust me. If that were the case, we'd have lost long ago.

This isn't your fault; you just don't have access to enough information to make a reasonable assessment of the situation. And you aren't alone: the idiocracy is stronger than ever.
 
I just can't for the life of me understand why anyone would object to this. We are at war with Islam and those people are trying to get into our country to carry out acts of terrorism. It is only logical to limit their entrance into our country until we have a handle on the situation. Do you think that Roosevelt allowed Germans and Japanese to freely enter our country during WWII? If this was peace time and the Islam faith didn't want us all dead, I'd say let everyone in through the proper channels.
Your post has to be the scariest thing I've read all week, because you are representative of the sheep that blindly follow Trump and his Republican counterparts. We are not at a war with ISLAM. We are defending ourselves against terrorists. And your comment about America not allowing people to enter during WWII is especially offensive this week, with the Holocaust remembrance day occuring Friday. Starving, beaten down Jewish refugees were also not allowed to enter. I wonder how many innocent people are going to suffer badly under this horrific Republican administration.
 
It only negatively hurts his cheap labor workers from those countries.
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Probably less than you with all the tax loops they employ.

You're claiming it's a fact that Apple doesn't employ a single person living in the USA who has citizenship from Iran or one of the other six? That's an absurd claim and you must not be a software engineer because there's lots of particularly Iranian engineers in the US. Google has them and says so, so obviously Apple has them too.
 
Taking sides is another way to lose part of your install base.

If you're so insensitive to not buy a product because the CEO is championing an issue which hurts his employees, then you're probably part of the tiny minority and Apple doesn't give a **** about you.
 
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Look at how Trump has given these racists the opportunity to come out of the shadows

this country is in a downward spiral
 
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