Apple CEO Tim Cook on Immigration Executive Order: 'It is Not a Policy We Support'

[STC1709]

its so funny listening to all the liberals whine and complain basically what they've been doing this whole election. *******s is what they are, liberalism - a mental disorder

 

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[lunarworks]

If you want to go waaaaay back, my mother's country (Spain) paid for the voyage that ultimately caused Christopher Columbus to discover America. My father's ancestors can be traced back to the first settlers in Virginia. In any case, none of my ancestors fled a bad situation. If anything, some fought in wars for their homelands. The ones who later came to America, took a risk. Their lives were otherwise comfortable in their native homelands.

Through the ages, some of my ancestors died in wars, served in public office, went to jail for civil disobedience, and married foreigners. So, yeah, some earned their citizenship, and that of their offspring, including me.

It is not necessary to fight fire with fire always. Time, and the will of a minority, can effect change, even in the face of violent threats. Ask Mahatma Ghandi or Martin Luther King. The fact remains, progress will never occur if people run away from the problem. Nor will it occur if adults don't instill their true beliefs in their children.

Cool. On my mother's side, my ancestors were American refugees fleeing the American Revolution, who were welcomed with open arms in Upper Canada.

 

[JeffyTheQuik]

And if you can't see that Trump's base is a bunch of ignorant racist fools, you're right, we're done.

I think the word you're looking for is "Deplorable," last used by the second place finisher in the recent Presidential race.

I know, I know, the winner lost the popular vote, and that would be really, really important is that was the measure that the election was scored, but it isn't. It's scored on the Electoral College.

It's like the SF 49ers in SB 47: They won on first downs, net yardage, average gains per offensive play, average yards per rush, total yards passed, longest punt average, but lost in the one thing that mattered: Final Score. While you may not like the Electoral College, Article V of the US Constitution has the way to change that. Until then, that's the way it is.

 

[Snoopy4]

Hmmmmmmmm....... Whodathunkit?

Bill Clinton on illegal immigration.

https://mobile.twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/825448477412962304/video/1

Holy Jesus! He said Illegal Aliens!
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Cool. Where'd your ancestors come from? Did they spontaneously appear through some immaculate American conception, or did they travel to America for that opportunity?

Also, it's easy to say "why don't they just stay in their country and improve things there?" when you're sitting cozy at home not under a very real threat of death. These migrants are coming from places where you'll get killed for drawing any sort of attention to yourself.

So, not to point out the obvious, but Native Americans aren't actually "Native" either. I guess the Deer and Antilope were a bit soft on imigration.

 

[robbyx]

I stand against racism when supported by empirical evidence, but your logic on Republicans being racist against Obama is so amorphous that I just don't agree with your premise. Sorry.

So explain to me why so many people in congress, mostly from the south, opposed Obama with such fervor from day one?

 

[Snoopy4]

So explain to me why so many people in congress, mostly from the south, opposed Obama with such fervor from day one?

Because he's a Democrat. Just because Republicans don't have a professional protestor class to lean on to raise a stink about everything doesn't mean we didn't object. Oh wait, we did. In 2010, peacefully with our ballots.

 

[lunarworks]

its so funny listening to all the liberals whine and complain basically what they've been doing this whole election. *******s is what they are, liberalism - a mental disorder

Again, it's amazing how the idea of wanting to live in an inclusive society where people's basic needs are taken care of is considered a "mental disorder" in the US.

I can walk down my street and see restaurants serving food from dozens of countries. To Trump voters, Taco Bell is the most "ethnic" food available in their town.

 

[robbyx]

I think the word you're looking for is "Deplorable," last used by the second place finisher in the recent Presidential race.

I know, I know, the winner lost the popular vote, and that would be really, really important is that was the measure that the election was scored, but it isn't. It's scored on the Electoral College.

It's like the SF 49ers in SB 47: They won on first downs, net yardage, average gains per offensive play, average yards per rush, total yards passed, longest punt average, but lost in the one thing that mattered: Final Score. While you may not like the Electoral College, Article V of the US Constitution has the way to change that. Until then, that's the way it is.

I'm well aware of how the Electoral College works and have no problem with the results of this election. I never suggested otherwise. In fact I never mentioned the Electoral College or Hillary Clinton or the popular vote.
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Because he's a Democrat. Just because Republicans don't have a professional protestor class to lean on to raise a stink about everything doesn't mean we didn't object. Oh wait, we did. In 2010, peacefully with our ballots.

And when Reagan was elected, or either Bush, did we see Democrats refuse to work with them on anything from day one? And when Clinton was elected, did we see Republicans refuse to work with him on anything from day one?

No. We saw the opposition party engage and participate in the political process.

That is not what happened when Obama was elected. So, again, I ask, what was so different about Obama...other than his skin color?

 

[sk1wbw]

Of course, you and the current president ignore (or are unaware of) 8 U.S. Code § 1152 - Numerical limitations on individual foreign states.

You might read it, noting Section (a)(1)and then invest in law school to understand how the two sections of law interact.

You won't, but you should.

And you should be aware that entering the US is not a right for anyone. Just sayin.

 

[AZ63]

I completely agree no man should have that much power and I'm sure you were posting in some site somewhere when Pres. Obama was exerting the same over-reach as Trump. Or I am sure you commented when Harry Reed restructured Senate rules to get what the Dems wanted the way the Dems wanted w/o working with and compromising with the other members of congress. Obama Care was the only major piece of legislation that passed without one vote from the other party. One thing we agree on, most likely, government is broken and the populous is deeply divided.

 

[Snoopy4]

Again, it's amazing how the idea of wanting to live in an inclusive society where people's basic needs are taken care of is considered a "mental disorder" in the US.

I can walk down my street and see restaurants serving food from dozens of countries. To Trump voters, Taco Bell is the most "ethnic" food available in their town.

So rediculously false. Further, how can we take care of people's basic needs when we're spending billions on people who are here illegally? Perhaps you have some guidance on this.

 

[dragje]

Your opinion about Trump seems to be rather "black and white, doesn't it?

Can yu name any nuances concerning Trump? Exactly

 

[robbyx]

So rediculously false. Further, how can we take care of people's basic needs when we're spending billions on people who are here illegally? Perhaps you have some guidance on this.

Such a red herring. I'm no fan of the welfare/nanny state, but let's not kid ourselves. We can't take care of people's basic needs when our priorities are completely screwed up, starting with our country being in a perpetual state of war. In the entire history of our nation there are only a few decades total where we weren't in some kind of conflict. It's absurd. Spending on illegals is a drop in the bucket compared to what we spend every day on the war and spy machine. Priorities are the problem, not illegal immigrants. And for the record, I'm no fan of our current immigration mess. It needs to be tackled. But when it comes to this country's ills, illegal immigration pales in comparison to warped priorities and values.

 

[lunarworks]

So rediculously false. Further, how can we take care of people's basic needs when we're spending billions on people who are here illegally? Perhaps you have some guidance on this.

First the "illegals" contribute to your economy by doing crucial but menial jobs, and guess what, paying taxes.

Second, the US military budget from 2015 was $600 billion. 10x more than any other country. I'm sure you could shave a few billion off of that and still have a tip top army. Hasn't that new fighter jet cost $28 billion so far?

Third, the US gov't actually spends more per capita on health care than Canada. How is it that we have free universal health care, and you don't?

 

[Solomani]

Dear Tim,

More Macs. Less Politics.

Signed,

AAPL stockholder (just a handful of shares, but I'm still a shareholder)

 

[robbyx]

I completely agree no man should have that much power and I'm sure you were posting in some site somewhere when Pres. Obama was exerting the same over-reach as Trump. Or I am sure you commented when Harry Reed restructured Senate rules to get what the Dems wanted the way the Dems wanted w/o working with and compromising with the other members of congress. Obama Care was the only major piece of legislation that passed without one vote from the other party. One thing we agree on, most likely, government is broken and the populous is deeply divided.

Which is why I am hoping for legitimate secessionist movements to emerge. It's obvious we're not one country and the divide is only growing deeper. Obama didn't bridge it. Trump won't bridge it. We're living in the beginning of the end of the United States. It might take a few more decades, but there's no way we're going to stay one country.

 

[jdillings]

Wondering why Trump chose those seven countries? It's because those countries were already identified by Obama's administration:

The Department of Homeland Security today announced that it is continuing its implementation of the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 with the addition of Libya, Somalia, and Yemen as three countries of concern, limiting Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals who have traveled to these countries.
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The three additional countries designated today join Iran, Iraq, Sudan and Syria as countries subject to restrictions for Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/02/18/dhs-announces-further-travel-restrictions-visa-waiver-program

 

[robbyx]

First the "illegals" contribute to your economy by doing crucial but menial jobs, and guess what, paying taxes.

Second, the US military budget from 2015 was $600 billion. 10x more than any other country. I'm sure you could shave a few billion off of that and still have a tip top army. Hasn't that new fighter jet cost $28 billion so far?

Third, the US gov't actually spends more per capita on health care than Canada. How is it that we have free universal health care, and you don't?

Stop! You're making too much sense!

 

[Snoopy4]

First the "illegals" contribute to your economy by doing crucial but menial jobs, and guess what, paying taxes.

Second, the US military budget from 2015 was $600 billion. 10x more than any other country. I'm sure you could shave a few billion off of that and still have a tip top army. Hasn't that new fighter jet cost $28 billion so far?

Third, the US gov't actually spends more per capita on health care than Canada. How is it that we have free universal health care, and you don't?

They take jobs. There is a difference.

Second, the one thing the government is actually required by the Constitution to provide is a Military.

Third, insurance is expensive because we don't work across state lines which is the stupidest thing ever. How expensive do you think Canadian insurance would be if each Province had to to have its own plan, policies and regulations?
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Wondering why Trump chose those seven countries? It's because those countries were already identified by Obama's administration:



https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/02/18/dhs-announces-further-travel-restrictions-visa-waiver-program

Yeah, we've been pointing that out all day. Some people refuse to take time to actually read. It's insane.

 

[jlc1978]

So exactly what Trump did.

Except Obama closed a loophole that lets Cubans in that others were denied, Trump prevents those already with a legal status from reentering; such as US citizens who might also be a citizen of one of the banned countries.

 

[robbyx]

They take jobs. There is a difference.

Yeah, there's a loooooooong line of Americans waiting to pick strawberries........

Second, the one thing the government is actually required by the Constitution to provide is a Military.

And that military should have a blank check?

Third, insurance is expensive because we don't work across state lines which is the stupidest thing ever. How expensive do you think Canadian insurance would be if each Province had to to have its own plan, policies and regulations?

On this we agree. Which is precisely why we need to get rid of insurance companies and have a single payer system.

 

[JeffyTheQuik]

Can yu name any nuances concerning Trump? Exactly

Yes.

At the time, it was a choice between bad, and worse.

For every bad thing that was said about Donald Trump prior to 11/8/16, there is an equal, or worse thing that can be said about Secretary Clinton.

 

[Zarniwoop]

So you're saying Islam has nothing to do with all the wars and bloodshed in the Middle East? Sad

Political Islamist of course are creating havoc there. But let's rewind a little bit.

If you look at the borders of many Middle East countries, they look like they've been drawn with a ruler. And that is because they are. Ottoman Empire fell down in the Arab revolt created by Brits. You might know this from the movie Lawrence of Arabia. It was that guy who joined small Arab communities to fight against the Ottomans.

Then Brits and French drew the direct lines on the map and created the countries we have today and the disaster of Middle east was set up. Ask any Kurd how happy they are to this arrangement. Later USA joined the party with its support for Israel. Many evangelical churches are giving their support Israel too, not just Jewish communities. Islam was not needed for that mess.

My point is, Any religion used to a political agenda is deadly weapon. Trumps supporters are coming from this background too. They are war mongering Christians. Same time some power hungry men are using Islam for their political agenda, mainly in Middle East.

Would you like to be called a war mongering American, child murderer? Most countries would have a reason to say that and ban USA. But they haven't, because the world is not black and white. Any travelled and educated person knows that. It needs just one stupid leader to trash the whole nations reputation. Ask the Germans. That's what has happened in the Middle East too. Politics. With a religion. Is asking trouble.

 

[jlc1978]

Second, the one thing the government is actually required by the Constitution to provide is a Military.

Actually they have the authority to but are not required to' they also have the right to promote the general welfare per the Constitution.