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Apple CEO Tim Cook on Immigration Executive Order: 'It is Not a Policy We Support'

Soccertess said:
he isn't doing it for his employees, he is doing it for his own moral code. He is using Apple as his own political tool.

I'm ok with him being vocal, but I think he should step down as Apple and lead the charge. If he wants to be political, he should not do it at the shareholder's expense.
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So even though he's continuing to earn Apple billions of dollars in profit you think he should step down because it's triggering you that he has a different political opinion than your own...
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pat500000 said:
Tim, what kind of drug are you on? You must been smoking something. You don't speak for anyone including your employees. You need to focus on your job...build high quality desktop computers.
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The irony of your post is that he sent this email to his employees, because some of his employees are getting hurt in the crossfire from the travel ban he is discussing.
 
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I just read that this rule applies also to those who have dual citizenship. For instance, there are tens of thousands of Somalis who arrived early '90s and have already integrated to Europe; they do all kind of professions. And as of today, their access to the Great country of the USA has been just denied.
 
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It's interesting...

Apple: Walled Garden. Extremely careful about who they allow. We like, for the most part, their approach to their very tight and strictly controlled eco-system and the safety that comes with that.

Windows/Android: Anything goes. Everybody is welcome! We've all seen how that can work out and while it has worked out due to sheer numbers and price, is there really any argument about which is better? (watch the "pros" latch onto that last part!)

haha... sure IT and life are different. Just interesting is all.
 
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Naimfan said:
Now THAT is a statement we should all support. Excluding others is as unAmerican as it is possible to get.
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There is nothing unAmerican about trying to make the immigration process safer for those already in America. If the new orders are inconvenient for some, so be it. Life is not about pleasing everyone.

We are at war. And as a sovereign nation that is ruled by the Constitution of the United States, we (America) have a right and a duty to protect ourselves.
 
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Zarniwoop said:
I just read that this rule applies also to those who have double nationality. For instance, there are tens of thousands of Somalis who arriver early '90s and have already integrated to Europe; they do all kind of professions. And as of today, their access to the Greate country of USA has been just denied.
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Even if they have an EU passport as well?
 
macmee said:
So even though he's continuing to earn Apple billions of dollars in profit you think he should step down because it's triggering you that he has a different political opinion than your own...
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The irony of your post is that he sent this email to his employees, because some of his employees are getting hurt in the crossfire from the travel ban he is discussing.
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Employees who illegally came to America to work for Apple?
 
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BasicGreatGuy said:
There is nothing unAmerican about trying to make the immigration process safer for those already in America. If the new orders are inconvenient for some, so be it. Life is not about pleasing everyone.

We are at war. And as a sovereign nation that is ruled by the Constitution of the United States, we (America) have a right and a duty to protect ourselves.
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We? You sound like Gollum. But war? Oh, i forgot, with the press and the media according to Trump. Silly.
 
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pat500000 said:
Employees who illegally came to America to work for Apple?
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no........ US residents who work for Apple who are from these newly blacklisted countries who are now no longer able to travel back home, or who are now stuck in said countries unable to return to the US where they rightly and legally live.
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Zarniwoop said:
Yup.
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For my own curiosity do you have a source?
 
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smoking monkey said:
It's interesting...

Apple: Walled Garden. Extremely careful about who they allow. We like, for the most part, their approach to their very tight and strictly controlled eco-system and the safety that comes with that.

Windows/Android: Anything goes. Everybody is welcome! We've all seen how that can work out and while it has worked out due to sheer numbers and price, is there really any argument about which is better? (watch the "pros" latch onto that last part!)

haha... sure IT and life are different. Just interesting is all.
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Ha ha. Thanks for the giggle ;)
 
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macmee said:
no........ US residents who work for Apple who are from these newly blacklisted countries who are now no longer able to travel back home, or who are now stuck in said countries unable to return to the US where they rightly and legally live.
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For my own curiosity do you have a source?
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I see. Hmm.
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macmee said:
no........ US residents who work for Apple who are from these newly blacklisted countries who are now no longer able to travel back home, or who are now stuck in said countries unable to return to the US where they rightly and legally live.
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For my own curiosity do you have a source?
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I just want to say one thing though: personally I rather have trump do this to secure our country. By the way, Tim mentioned anyone who works for Apple..not just us resident.
 
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dragje said:
We? You sound like Gollum. But war? Oh, i forgot, with the press and the media according to Trump. Silly.
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"We" being America, as previously stated.

We are at war with a group of people who are ageless and faceless, and are focused on killing us.

If you want to paint with a wide partisan brush, go paint someone else's post with your trite, ill-placed talking points.
 
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I am not a fan of big companies or CEO's making political statements because of the damage it can cause the company, but he has to understand that it is to protect US citizens.
 
BasicGreatGuy said:
He is an American citizen exercising his right of free speech. The notion that he shouldn't comment on his own government policies is absurd.
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It's just how we came to this information. If Tim really was public about it he'd do it in a different setting or format like an editorial or open letter. He would have every right to do that. He also has every right to send this out as an internal memo. When he really starts using Apple as an agenda tool then we can really talk. I am all for people (everybody, even celebs, ceos and all) sharing ideas and being a part of the discussion. When we all lecture each other and refuse to listen to others concerns it's just toxic bile. Great ideas don't need force. Allow the prevailing thought or idea to win on its own merit.

***sorry after reading, my introduction isn't terribly clear. Too often we take these memos as more than what they are which is evident here in the thread. Again he has every right to express himself and reassure his employees.
 
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pat500000 said:
Tim, what kind of drug are you on? You must been smoking something. You don't speak for anyone including your employees. You need to focus on your job...build high quality desktop computers.
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Actually, I'm more interested in what you have been "smoking" since you don't even seems to understand that any bos is entitled to bring out a unified message to all of his employees when political tensions might damage the companies interest and to make clear what kind of philosophy a company will follow to face these uncertainties.

Second, what authority do you give yourself that makes you think that you're entitled to state what Tim Cook should or shouldn't do? You really think Tim will read your comment and might decide "geez, this kid has a point!"? It's a rhetorical question in case you didn't figured that one out yet...
 
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Tim Cooks failure is that he thinks he is running a commodity company and he spends all his time running around the world making business deals and social commentary, but I doubt he spends much time with the product let alone focusing on the future or fixing current bugs.

Jobs was a creative and a tyrant, so he was always on top of new ideas and would fire anyone who left problems to fester without fixing them. Today's apple sadly is not user friendly, is buggier than ever, and yet has no real compelling product that says "it's worth the money." I've been buying Apple stuff since my first IIsi in 1991, and have been an advocate who helped many others to choose Macs, but I don't bother anymore. And I probably won't buy another one, especially if Apple deprecates my current laptop while it still works perfectly.
 
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Aldaris said:
It's just how we came to this information. If Tim really was public about it he'd do it in a different setting or format like an editorial or open letter. He would have every right to do that. He also has every right to send this out as an internal memo. When he really starts using Apple as an agenda tool then we can really talk. I am all for people (everybody, even celebs, ceos and all) sharing ideas and being a part of the discussion. When we all lecture each other and refuse to listen to others concerns it's just toxic bile. Great ideas don't need force. Allow the prevailing thought or idea to win on its own merit.
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I can understand the opposing position to Tim speaking out. I think Tim is throwing his CEO weight around, because he does have some clout. And seeing how he just met with the President, I am not surprised by this news.

Thank God, (I don't care about being politically correct, so resident atheists, deists, agnostics and the like will have to endure my reference to God) that we are a Republic.
 
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macmee said:
thats ok, I found it here

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/28/unhcr-speaks-donald-trump-suspends-us-refugee-program/

this is so bad....
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Includes Canadians, if the origin is from the seven countries listed:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/28/airports-us-immigration-ban-muslim-countries-trump

"A state department spokesman confirmed to the Guardian that travellers who have dual nationality between a country on the list and another non-US country, for instance UK-Iraqi or Canadian-Somali citizenship,are barred from entering the US for 90 days."
 
BasicGreatGuy said:
There is nothing unAmerican about trying to make the immigration process safer for those already in America. If the new orders are inconvenient for some, so be it. Life is not about pleasing everyone.

We are at war. And as a sovereign nation that is ruled by the Constitution of the United States, we (America) have a right and a duty to protect ourselves.
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Yes, thank you for noting that we're at war. I've served in all three as the sharp edge of the sword. It is ENTIRELY un-American to deny admittance to those who most need it. We are ALL ourselves from somewhere else.

If we were to do so in a principled manner, we would not allow anyone from Saudi Arabia to enter. How many acts of terror havr been committed by Syrian refugees of any religion? Zero.
 
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dragje said:
Actually, I'm more interested in what you have been "smoking" since you don't even seems to ubderstand that any bos is entitled to bring out a unified message to all of his employees when political tensions might damage the companies interest and to make clear what kind of philosophy a company will follow to face these uncertainties.

Second, what authority do you give yourself that makes you think that you're entitled to state what Topim should or shouldn't do? You really think Tim will read your comment and might decide "geez, this kid has a point!"? It's a rhetorical question in case you didn't figured that one out yet...
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Right..unifying potential terrorist members. I have to say, from reading previous posts..you talk a lot about things that lead to potential terrorist threat. So, please..you don't have to watch Conan the barbarian movies to be social justice warrior.

What authority? Your sounding as if I'm the potus.
 
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