This might be a clue as to why all those conservatives saw her as a significant adversary from the start.
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This might be a clue as to why all those conservatives saw her as a significant adversary from the start.
Another interview, another day of lying for Hillary Clinton:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...irector-said-her-email-answers-were-truthful/
Just in case anyone still wanted to pretend she wasn't still pathologically lying - she's still selling 4 Pinocchio lies about the e-mail server.
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SS is not what you and I would call a pension plan. You have no legal right and you can never vest to legally own a single penny of SS money, ever, beyond what the current Congress is willing to give you. I think the helpful link you posted is a pretty clear reflection of my point that the SS statements that are being sent out to pretty much anyone under the age of 40 are a polite fiction. Maybe you think a systemic 20-25% shortfall for benefits in 15-20 years is not a big deal, but I think it could cause civil unrest.
You may think a payroll tax increase is a great idea and a simple fix, but it doesn't matter what you think (or I think) should be done, because we're not Congress and the reality is we have no say and no control over something that taxes a not insignificant part of our income in an act purported to be done for our own good. You may trust Congress with that power. I do not.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...irector-said-her-email-answers-were-truthful/
Just in case anyone still wanted to pretend she wasn't still pathologically lying - she's still selling 4 Pinocchio lies about the e-mail server.
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SS is not what you and I would call a pension plan. You have no legal right and you can never vest to legally own a single penny of SS money, ever, beyond what the current Congress is willing to give you. I think the helpful link you posted is a pretty clear reflection of my point that the SS statements that are being sent out to pretty much anyone under the age of 40 are a polite fiction. Maybe you think a systemic 20-25% shortfall for benefits in 15-20 years is not a big deal, but I think it could cause civil unrest.
You may think a payroll tax increase is a great idea and a simple fix, but it doesn't matter what you think (or I think) should be done, because we're not Congress and the reality is we have no say and no control over something that taxes a not insignificant part of our income in an act purported to be done for our own good. You may trust Congress with that power. I do not.
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I'm not gonna stop buying Apple stuff because of this, but I'll certainly buy less. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Apple just get done with a huge legal/PR crisis that involved contesting government control and privacy rights? And now they want to support Hillary? Maybe Cook is hoping to buy a favor against competition?
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They found lots of things to prosecute her for. Didn't you watch Comey's conference? They just chose not to prosecute her, because...totally legitimate reasons?
But seriously, just watch this. It gives you the laws that she broke, and relevant clips of testimony.
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They found lots of things to prosecute her for. Didn't you watch Comey's conference? They just chose not to prosecute her, because...totally legitimate reasons?
But seriously, just watch this. It gives you the laws that she broke, and relevant clips of testimony.
And that my friend is exactly how the establishment planned for it to play out. To ensure Hillary would win. Don't fall for it.
The establishment's plan was to nominate Trump so Clinton would look good in comparison?
How diabolical.
Comey came out and said that she had classified Top Secret emails on her server, she lied to them about not having them, and yet mysteriously concluded that she would not even be indited. How interesting.
You're right she hasn't been charged. But you can't be charged when the investigators decide not to, even when they're already found the evidence of guilt.
I'm no Trump supporter but the whole thing is such a sham.
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Are you misrepresenting what I said on purpose? My first line was:
So yes, I very obviously think he's perfectly able to do this. My point, if you'd read it again, is that it's pretty well impossible to separate Tim as a person from Tim as the CEO of Apple. The only reason that everyone knows who Tim Cook is, and allows him to have the power to host an expensive fundraiser as such, is because of his position at Apple -- one of the largest and most powerful organizations in the world.
Any CEO or business owner would tell you: there is no "off-the-clock".
I'd defend his right to do it 'til the end of the world, but I can understand that people will continue to make the association between his personal actions and his representation of Apple.
Look how many people, low-level average joes, are fired from companies for posting a distasteful joke on their personal social media account. It happens all the time.
Trillions of dollars are big numbers, but so are 300 million people. You have to look at the size of the whole economy to see what is really happening. The U.S. financial industry went into freefall between 2007-2009, and that caused a lot of secondary problems -- for example the auto industry. Despite the already high debt, Congress, and Presidents Bush and Obama did the right thing. The economy went into recovery, and, the debt as a fraction of GDP has stabilized at a much higher level.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...ercent_of_GDP_by_President_(1940_to_2015).png
The policies of the Democrats generally is directly a threat to Apple and most of its customers. Economic policies as proven in practice.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...on-five-part-bond-sale.1985193/#post-23184662
Neither party has the power or much inclination overall to reduce social freedoms. While there is lip service on both sides of extreme plans, they would have to get through Congressional committees, into a bill, gain support, and pass in similar form in TWO houses of Congress. Then the President may or may not sign it. Highly unlikely. That debate is misdirection.
The far more important and likely policy is economic and budget policy. Voters should focus on that, read the facts and even Democrats should vote their pocketbook and economic freedom and vote R up and down the ticket. Give it a shot.
If you listen to his own words (after clarifications) and not people who characterise (and fixate on) some his most annoying gaffs, The R candidate is pro LGBTQ (who added the Q?), is supportive of LEGAL immigration of folks we can identify and vett, unlike war zone refugees. For them he suggests what the under-secretaries of State Dept and DoD recommend, have a LOCAL refugee area in those countries. Shelter in place. It works.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...on-five-part-bond-sale.1985193/#post-23184662
Neither party has the power or much inclination overall to reduce social freedoms. While there is lip service on both sides of extreme plans, they would have to get through Congressional committees, into a bill, gain support, and pass in similar form in TWO houses of Congress. Then the President may or may not sign it. Highly unlikely. That debate is misdirection.
The far more important and likely policy is economic and budget policy. Voters should focus on that, read the facts and even Democrats should vote their pocketbook and economic freedom and vote R up and down the ticket. Give it a shot.
If you listen to his own words (after clarifications) and not people who characterise (and fixate on) some his most annoying gaffs, The R candidate is pro LGBTQ (who added the Q?), is supportive of LEGAL immigration of folks we can identify and vett, unlike war zone refugees. For them he suggests what the under-secretaries of State Dept and DoD recommend, have a LOCAL refugee area in those countries. Shelter in place. It works.
We're kind of looping here, so, I will just make one more small point and let this one rest.
"Trust" means different things in these sentences. What do I trust Congress to do or not do? Well, if Trump sets a series of events in motion that ultimately breaks the U.S. up into smaller regions, I probably won't be collecting my Social Security, my retirement accounts will probably be worthless, and maybe, or maybe not, my old truck will still be driveable. I may starve to death during the Great Unrest. Who knows? If Paul Ryan becomes President and destroys SS, I may not collect, but, my retirement accounts will probably be OK. If Hillary Clinton becomes President, and we stay with the status quo, my retirement should be fine for a while and I may be dead before I find out what happens. Who knows? Or the Giant Meteor of 2016 may strike and then none of it will matter.
I can't predict what each combination of President and Congress may or may not do. But, I will assert again that SS can be tweaked and it can stay in its current form. Yes, I do consider taking an additional 1.2-1.4% of your paycheck a tweak. Yes, it is real money, but, workable.
Medicare is another story-- our current medical care delivery system is too bureaucratic and involves far too much overhead and money spent on various forms of accounting. We have to find a way to provide some basic level of streamlined efficient care for everyone.
"Trust" means different things in these sentences. What do I trust Congress to do or not do? Well, if Trump sets a series of events in motion that ultimately breaks the U.S. up into smaller regions, I probably won't be collecting my Social Security, my retirement accounts will probably be worthless, and maybe, or maybe not, my old truck will still be driveable. I may starve to death during the Great Unrest. Who knows? If Paul Ryan becomes President and destroys SS, I may not collect, but, my retirement accounts will probably be OK. If Hillary Clinton becomes President, and we stay with the status quo, my retirement should be fine for a while and I may be dead before I find out what happens. Who knows? Or the Giant Meteor of 2016 may strike and then none of it will matter.
I can't predict what each combination of President and Congress may or may not do. But, I will assert again that SS can be tweaked and it can stay in its current form. Yes, I do consider taking an additional 1.2-1.4% of your paycheck a tweak. Yes, it is real money, but, workable.
Medicare is another story-- our current medical care delivery system is too bureaucratic and involves far too much overhead and money spent on various forms of accounting. We have to find a way to provide some basic level of streamlined efficient care for everyone.
It could be because man like him can concentrate on more then one thing at a time.
I'm sorry but it is just so freaking stupid to host fundraisers for both sides of a single fight. Literally the most counterproductive thing I've ever heard of. I just cannot comprehend this. If I'm Hillary, I show up and say, "WTF Tim? Why did you support house republicans? You can't support my plans and house republicans at the same time, you know the jerks that will stone wall any possible accomplishments."
I think you may have misread the guys post, he was in no way standing up for Hillary quite the opposite, did seem a little pro Trump though.
true. i was referring more to corporate regulation, and in particular banking/investment industry. the same deregulation that allowed the crash of '07 is back and more dangerous than ever.
Calm down, first off you better start checking the reliabilty of PolitiFact it's almost a Democratic wing of the Democratic Party itself as is Main Stream Media with the release of the DNC wikileaks emails shows. Be careful of the 2 Party Paradigm nonsense of which Politifact is one. About 5 years ago they said mostly true on a topic I liked, and I knew from that moment their part of the problem. You need to do a conservative check of almost everything Politifact says to get an accurate reading. Good site for the opposition is below
http://www.politifactbias.com/
Next, all Presidents are good at telling folks what they want to hear, they all, each and everyone of them Pander, kind of like a Hamburger with no meat or substance, it's what they actually do that matters, by their fruits you shall know them. Take a look at Hillary Clintons's views on things before and after, take a good look at her voting record.
Next, we pick on Clinton because she lies the most and has documented proof of her lies and deceit, she hasn't even become President yet, and she's already one of the biggest liars on Capitol hill. A good example is when Congress cross examined the FBI head on Hillary and her private Server, he admitted to her lies, he could nothing else, it was public record, and that's only the most recent. The next group of Hillary's lies are about to be exposed by Wikileaks, if the investigation into the Clinton Foundation doesn't beat them to the punch first. I digress, her lies are not over yet, there's more to come down the pipe.
Next, you must really be a Democrat, you've got to stop feeding at their food dump. The US is almost $20 Trillion dollars in debt and getting deeper with each passing second, when their about ready to go under from debt, they'll come for your Social Security, and they'll take it. (All of that doesn't even take into consideration the ticking time bombs that are Large International Banks have become.) Just another recommendation would be, stop believing Government figures for almost anything under the Sun. If they do not come for your Social Security it will be because the amount will not keep you alive, it will be almost worthless.
Next, State Universities since I've been alive, were never free, they were fairly cheap because there was very little Federal Government involvement in education, that has been progressive. In the 80's the Department of Education became a Cabinet level agency and it was all downhill from there, every Government action eventually has an equal and opposite reaction. An example would be Supreme Court decisions using Articles and amendments for things that the original was never meant to be used for in the first place, but they use it, because the Supreme Court has become another Department of Government and is a political entity now. What Checks and Balances, they no longer exist, that is a problem, but it's no problem for all good collectivist.
Last but not least is your last statement, I'm afraid I go with the other fellows opinion, already we've basically become a Banana Republic, their 2 sets of laws, one for the average man, and one for Department heads, high government officials, and large Corporate CEO's. Call it the new JustUs System. Then there of course is the basic fact the the average man has absolutely no input what so ever into policy of the United States, so yeah 20 years at the outside and the United States as we no know it, may as well change it's name to the United Socialist Sates of America or anything else they want, because it sure is not the home of liberty and freedom any longer, it's highest laws are constantly ignored. The only real sorrow is for all those guys who laid their lives on the line for their country, to protect our way of life that is now being crushed. However, I just know your mileage is different.
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So true, they do say Trump has more than 500 llc's (companies.), he's also got all of his adult kids as EVP's helping him, but that's still an awfully lot of multi-tasking.
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No. You pick on her because you are just being partisan. If you were truly objective, you would stack up all the things that she has lied about vs. all the things Trump has lied about to draw some comparison. But you aren't doing that.
How big do you think that deficit will grow with increased military spending (we gotta rebuild the military!) and building of a border wall (gotta keep those rapist out!), and the cost of rounding up and deporting millions upon millions of people?
I didn't misrepresent anything at all. Yes you claimed it his right but then you claimed his personal and private cannot be separated, and keep coming back to "the average joe gets fired for privately doing things" comment. Okay...so what are you trying to say here? Are you complaining about this fundraising effort, backing it...what? I guess I am trying to understand why you weighed in here originally.
Oh okay. Because those Republicans are such exceptional stewards of our economy.
Yeah, I'll just toss out all my values and all my sanity and vote for Trump and his picks who will decide court cases adversely (IMHO) for the rest of my life. And vote for Republican's who have literally done nothing for my healthcare, my rights, or really much of anything at all lately. I don't think so. Yeah...nothing says pro gay like saying you'll nominate judges who would be on the opposite of the gay marriage debate. No thanks. You are writing checks that can't be cashed here.
Oh and those "annoying gaffes" are important here. They demonstrate a lack of knowledge as well as a lack of temperament. Getting foreign policy advice "from the shows" saying he knows more about ISIS "than the Generals", comparing himself to a solider killed in war saying he has sacrificed too, saying that dodging STD's were his own private Vietnam (while ducking out on the real one) just aren't the qualities of a decent leader. They are the qualities of an idiot.
See you in the White House again, Madame President.
Really not a Hillary fan. More of a Bill fan because we think alike and very detailed with our thoughts. We are naughty and love to bang chicks and with no condom! It's Tiger Woods, y'all! I do admire Hillary for her perseverance being married to Bill and putting up with his BS.
Hillary looks like the lesser of the two evils. But she has more political experience than Donald Trump who is only around for the Republican party for parody. Patience is a virtue being a Jedi. Hillary has it. Trump is a Sith lord.
Really not a Hillary fan. More of a Bill fan because we think alike and very detailed with our thoughts. We are naughty and love to bang chicks and with no condom! It's Tiger Woods, y'all! I do admire Hillary for her perseverance being married to Bill and putting up with his BS.
Hillary looks like the lesser of the two evils. But she has more political experience than Donald Trump who is only around for the Republican party for parody. Patience is a virtue being a Jedi. Hillary has it. Trump is a Sith lord.
I did post actual FACTS supporting that, so yes. On economic issues, which drives pretty much everything else. Education, jobs, pensions, solvency, income growth. This are all social justice issues last I checked. One party (in congress) has a track record of making major progress with economic and budget changes (R), one has a track record of the opposite (D) and I posted an actual fact graph and chart to prove it.
Now if you vote adverse to your own interests, that is your business.
As I said, the issue of personal rights is settled and there is plenty of legal precedent now. No President will substantially change that, so it is a straw man argument. The only details to be resolved are on the state level, and that will take a few years and each state is different where they are.
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https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...on-five-part-bond-sale.1985193/#post-23184662
Here are the recent (bad) company capital expenditure trends as a result also. 1/3 of spending is consumer, 2/3 company. It is a leading indicator for GDP growth and employment growth and productivity. This is updated 8-1-16
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Sounds like a good guy.I've got a friend that will never buy an iPhone again if he reads this news.
He quit eating Heinz ketchup because of who John Kerry was married to.
No. You pick on her because you are just being partisan. If you were truly objective, you would stack up all the things that she has lied about vs. all the things Trump has lied about to draw some comparison. But you aren't doing that.
How big do you think that deficit will grow with increased military spending (we gotta rebuild the military!) and building of a border wall (gotta keep those rapist out!), and the cost of rounding up and deporting millions upon millions of people?
I didn't misrepresent anything at all. Yes you claimed it his right but then you claimed his personal and private cannot be separated, and keep coming back to "the average joe gets fired for privately doing things" comment. Okay...so what are you trying to say here? Are you complaining about this fundraising effort, backing it...what? I guess I am trying to understand why you weighed in here originally.
Oh okay. Because those Republicans are such exceptional stewards of our economy.
Yeah...nothing says pro gay like saying you'll nominate judges who would be on the opposite of the gay marriage debate. No thanks. You are writing checks that can't be cashed here.
Oh and those "annoying gaffes" are important here. They demonstrate a lack of knowledge as well as a lack of temperament. Getting foreign policy advice "from the shows" saying he knows more about ISIS "than the Generals", comparing himself to a solider killed in war saying he has sacrificed too, saying that dodging STD's were his own private Vietnam (while ducking out on the real one) just aren't the qualities of a decent leader. They are the qualities of an idiot.
Looks like I already won that one, you see Trump has never been a Public official or a husband of one in his entire life, so his lies so far does not effect the Nation, on the other hand Hillary has been the wife of the President and in Public office up to and including Secretary of State, so her lies effects the Nation. Hillary's underhanded dealings and mishandling of classified as well as just everyday State business that she's destroyed among so many other things some of which I've already gave links to, effects the entire Nation. Add to it I'm not even giving you the satisfaction of saying Trump lies more than Hillary, because frankly that seems almost impossible for one human being to do, so I guess I'm kinda saying, I'm not even sure if Hillary is even human. Yes, I am being Partisan as you put it, I'm partisan because I can think and research all this by myself, I don't need to follow the leader as you must be doing.
Next line, Hillary will continue the spending spree, Trump being a businessman is usually not what business people do at all, so I guess that is a question we just may find out, won't we.
The average Joe as I put it, would be in Jail if he had done the same things Hillary did handling government documents, much less a private email server. The next person that mishandles government documents can now use the Hillary excuse as a precedent when handling government documents, National Security just went goodbye.
Now you've got me wondering though, do you depend upon the government for health care, retirement, and your rights. Rights are god given and also written into the Constitution, you do not depend upon the government for your rights, not ever. As for Health Care and retirement, there was never anything in any Constitution about those. Further as for Rights, Hillary voted for the Patriot Act, she voted for entering Iraq following Bush, Cheney, even her buddy Kissinger, with Saul Alinsky as her mentor. Hillary had her own version of Obama/Romney Care, and as for Social Security she'll probably try to give people a pay raise, and have the FED print the money out of thin air to do it. As first lady and a Senator Hillary actually supported all the Wars abroad. Hillary supported the War in Iraq, and said exactly the same things George Bush said about the reasons for attacking Iraq verbatim, she's just as much GOP as the GOP is on War, that alone should disqualify Hillary from the Democratic ticket for President, but it didn't.
Hillary admitted what the US role was in creating Al Qaeda. Despite this her support for the overthrow of the Libyan government and the Rebel forces in Syria led to the spread of ISIS, the migrant crisis in Europe, and a case could be made for the spread of terrorism throughout the entire globe. Hillary's political statements of convenience, there always a reflection of whatever is most political acceptable at the moment. This is why true politicians always seem to flip flop, because you can't please all the people all the time unless you lie, flip flop, cheat, steal, and murder, and Hillary has accomplished it all. I'm afraid people are just following the Party system as if there is no other way, and it looks like their 2 Party Paradigm is working on most still. I can't wait for the entertainment to start on the Clinton Foundation, and how Hillary will manage to squirm out of another crime with the help of her friends at the top, these criminals are making it all too obvious, and so many are just eating this up, yum, yum.
Oh and as for the Republicans there just one side of the same team, the 2 Party Paradigm, one side gets in, blames everything on the other party, gets new legislation passed and in time gets voted out. Then the other Party who supposedly is against the other side gains the power blames everything on the other side, and never ever tries to repeal any of the things they said they were against when they had no power, then they pass new legislation and we go through the Circle jerk over and over, again and again. One side commits crimes and the other side appears to go after them and it always fails as a partisan attack, and also they do not want to lose anything they might use once they gain power and they will eventually, like catch ball, it's called a circle jerk, and the people that they've always been jerking off are the American People. All the while these same folks on Capitol Hill continue to enjoy insider information, large campaign contributions, benefits, and never ending revolving doors and in the end it's at the American peoples expense. Left out one thing, the 2 Party's always vote the same on all important issues, their 2 cheeks of the same ass, and they both stink.
Gay marriage? judges? the original topic was Hillary, and Apple's CEO publicly endorsing and support of her. All I'm doing is trying to show her criminal activity and intent when it comes to her voting record as a Senator, and her screw up of the job she was appointed to do as Secretary most especially. The reason these people flip flop is not because of their values and ideals, because they threw those things away long ago, they have no integrity. In Hillary's case, she would sell the United States for the right price. Now it appears there also is no JustUs, but seriously even if convicted the next Democratic President would have pardoned Hillary in any case, as I said their making it all too obvious as to whom JustUs is for.
I want to agree with you. But in all honesty, my dog is better than either of these candidates. My dog has been dead for 5 years now. This country is in trouble no matter which way it goes and I do not believe that either is better than the other.
Wish the nominee were Bernie
That's all you get with the democrat party. Wishes. They have the system so rigged, you will never get what you want with them. They will tell you who your nominee will be.
Does that sit well with you?
The republican machine did everything they could to stop trump, and hes our nominee. Why? Because that's what the people want. Against the republican establishment, he won. Bernie couldn't do that with what he was up against. The democrats have a system that guarantees the elite in your party get to decide. Your participation is symbolic at best. Is that something you want to be a part of? Are you willing to leave that? Do you feel hopeless to make change?
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His philosophical integrity only applies to Alabama and it's laws. If you're a nation that kills gays, that's fine, he will support folks who take their money and turn a blind eye, but pass some legislation and that will get him fired up!
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Yes, however, it keep failing the e-mail security protocols
Maybe Trump and been paid to look so ridiculous to give Clinton a chance. Bernie would have nailed it and been far fqar better for the US and the rest of the world. Tim must like TTP and Offshore Tax evasion and want to push it along.
Oh okay. So because they are legally blocked from discriminating against me, I should vote for them even though they still wished they could. They even have it in their party platform yet again this year.
Yeah, that's never going to happen.Look, I get it. You want to start rewriting history here and pretend that the GOP has turned a corner, but they really haven't. And even if they somehow did, I would never forget all the damage they did to people previously. #neverforget #neverforgive
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What? That doesn't even make sense. You want to give him a gold star just because he hasn't been in the drivers seat yet? That's like saying "hey...let's let someone new drive the car....how about this blind guy? "There should be no problem since he has never crashed before."
You have to look at both candidate's records AND both of the candidate's temperaments. Both have failings on record. Only one has failings on temperament (and it's not Hillary).
Trump lies constantly about things big and small. Is he breathing? Then he's lying. You can stick your head in the sand and pretend you don't see it, but it doesn't change the fact that he lies all the time. As for your efforts of thinking and researching, keep working at it. If you aren't sure if Hillary is human or not, you haven't put enough thought or research into things.
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Oh the desperation in this thread trying to get Democrats to become Republicans.
Bernie lost because of one reason, and one reason alone: Bernie. He did not connect with African American voters in the south and lost the election way back in March because of it.
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Maybe...i mean...it's weird to see him do good before ..and suddenly "change." Hillary is the future president..so be it.