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Funny to watch Silcon Valley makes fun of people like this every episode. Some people must think it's just a joke but it's actually how they think of themselves. They really think they are saving the world.
 
It's interesting to hear successful people talk about "finding purpose" and it's usually something very lofty like "serving humanity." The reality is that success is largely based on luck. You can improve your odds through education, risk-taking or networking. There are ways, but still - luck plays a huge role. In retrospect, we can all come up with quotable life lessons for all to follow. The truth about success is a little more complicated, I think.
The harder I work, the luckier I seem to be.
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Thats why i bought the surface and never looked back
You bought a Surface but can't quit MacRumors. You need to try harder at not looking back if you want to be believed.
 
you pay all the taxes you are legally obliged to. Big difference between legal obligation and legally limiting the amount your pay within the rules.

Here you play by the rules, using the rules as intended to reduce the amount if you qualify

It's when you cheat, by finding loopholes , your INTENT is to cheat. Big differnce. We can all pay game the game , some win by cheating though...they don't break the rules as such, but morally....it's ironic that hey turn around and lecture us on moral issues and bettering humanity e.g lies hypocrisy and pure greed...

Finding loopholes isn't cheating if they're legal.

Pure greed? You know, folks in some third world nation may think your salary constitutes greed. So define greed for me.
 
Funny to watch Silcon Valley makes fun of people like this every episode. Some people must think it's just a joke but it's actually how they think of themselves. They really think they are saving the world.
Yeah because researchkit, HealthKit, and a heartbeat detector that can detect heartbeat abnormalities with 97% accuracy is certainly not going to help medical research, which in turn certainly won't make the world a better place with all this extra knowledge and data to work with.

Luckily for us, you're here to set us all straight with your infinite wisdom.
 
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Oh brother... this whole Tim Cook beat up is getting boring.
Sure, I miss the glory days of Apple, Steve's jobs and the amazing products that Apple revealed time and time again.
But enough is enough.

Steve CHOSE Tim as CEO for one reason and one reason only. Tim was the opposite to Steve and Steve knew that this is what Apple needed. Tim brought things to Apple that Steve could not...

Stability. Certainty and longevity.

Steve's revolution is now Tim's evolution. It's a slow one and a boring one, it sometimes is not to everyone's liking and it does not have the excitement that Steve's time had. But if you take a good look at what Apple have been doing since Tim took the reins, you will see a bigger picture. Slow and conservative is what it's all about.

We've seen some great new products from non-Apple vendors recently, but I've seen loads of technologies come and go over the years. Some of the best Apple products disappear and some of the biggest PC vendors disappear. There is no doubt in my mind that companies like Microsoft and Apple will always flourish and grow, despite out opinions of the companies or the CEOs.

Think on this though... considering that Apple are the biggest and most successful non-windows computer platforms out there that produce the hardware and software in one supported product - and they continue to grow, improve customer service and have a good quality product, then all this other crud really does not matter.

No need to like or dislike a person, or the product.
 



Working with Apple co-founder Steve Jobs, Cook said he eventually learned "life's biggest and most important question" being "how can I serve humanity?"Cook concluded his speech by saying he's "optimistic" in the next generation's own journey to serve humanity.Cook toured the MIT campus on Thursday. "So impressed by MIT students and faculty who are finding new ways to tackle the world's biggest challenges," he tweeted. "Thanks for sharing your work!"

Article Link: Apple CEO Tim Cook Pokes Fun at Windows PCs in Commencement Address at MIT


Well Jesus overcame the world as a true servant. I am not so sure that applies to the very rich. And if I believe my scriptures (I do) the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire.

The most important question then for any soul is how does one enter into Gods eternal kingdom as in eternal life. Jobs never saw his yacht. He did see Jesus. Oh boy.

Now helping others is good. But I think the motivation for Apple as a company and those who work for apple is the Benjamin's. Sure people use their products as tools but they were purchased. You want to make a product that sells. Its good pr to promote how they help people. I am typing this on my iMac.

So I would state to the "kids" that graduated they need to note there are many people in many walks of life that state "thank God its friday". If you can find something you like doing and can make a good living at it great. That something that you find may not pay what you want though. So more than likely people will look for work that "benefits" themselves the most. But its just work not your life. We come into the world with nothing and we leave the world with nothing.
 
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Whomever followed Steve at Apple was going to get beat down like this. It's hard to be a follow up act to someone like Steve Jobs. If Craig had become CEO, he would be the one vilified in this thread. Or (LOL), if Eddy Cue had become CEO. I'm sure we would've seen hours and hours of CGI baby Eddy dancing, on Cue.
 
It's interesting to hear successful people talk about "finding purpose" and it's usually something very lofty like "serving humanity." The reality is that success is largely based on luck. You can improve your odds through education, risk-taking or networking. There are ways, but still - luck plays a huge role. In retrospect, we can all come up with quotable life lessons for all to follow. The truth about success is a little more complicated, I think.

[APPLAUSE] :)

Finally someone in these forums who comprehends reality vs the fantasy mindset of "success". Survivorship bias tends to drive belief for successful people. They think anyone can be successful because they believe it was all on themselves (be it hard work or incredible skill), rather than good luck, a better starting point (privilege), and blind chance. The ego cannot handle being told luck and privilege was involved.

Then there are all the "temporarily embarrassed millionaires" in the libertarian tech geek forums who will jump on you for the slightest suggestion that luck has anything to do with success (because that makes them subject to randomness rather than their own manifest destiny), or that it might not be a great idea to worship the pathological capitalism of the USA. After all, someone's "failure to thrive" must be their own fault, even if the capitalism acolyte has not quite yet found their own successful scheme (the incidental incredible good luck that catapults them to actual wealth, rather than the anticipation of it arriving any day now when their latest scheme works out better than their prior schemes, because they are entitled to success as reward for their lifelong obedience to and religious conviction in the rightness of laissez faire capitalism).

Careful you don't criticize wealthy people for not giving more back to society; obviously there's absolutely no difference between a super-rich executive playing games with corporate tax loopholes and an average citizen paying their legally-required minimum taxes...

...said average citizen doing so without the benefits of hiring armies of accountants and lawyers to take advantage of things like corporate welfare, international and local corporate tax loopholes, or being able to live off of the earned interest on vast amounts of cash in savings, etc, as they struggle through life in their wage-slave day job.

Yup, no difference at all. Let's make snarky comments about how the criticizers don't pay more taxes than legallly required. It's the same thing. Like, totally.

Get with the program! We must defend the highest earners' their right to play by different rules, and always defend their right to not be asked to give back proportionally greater amounts to society (because they earn more)... criticizing high income people means we're just promoting the idea of stealing from the poor, or something. "Taxation is theft!" and all that nonsense.
 
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Whomever followed Steve at Apple was going to get beat down like this. It's hard to be a follow up act to someone like Steve Jobs. If Craig had become CEO, he would be the one vilified in this thread. Or (LOL), if Eddy Cue had become CEO. I'm sure we would've seen hours and hours of CGI baby Eddy dancing, on Cue.

Agree. It's just getting a bit old and boring and stupid. "Apple are not the same company" is the catch cry... what's annoying is that Apple is stronger and more stable than it ever has been in the history of Apple. Finally! Steve would be proud of where Apple is now and despite what people think - Apple's stance on security, social issues and all the other crud that people whinge about IS important. It's what makes the difference between someone that sells boxes (like thousands of other vendors) and Apple. Apple have a lot to risk. Because they are not another windows vendor, the risk is greater.
 
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Whomever followed Steve at Apple was going to get beat down like this. It's hard to be a follow up act to someone like Steve Jobs. If Craig had become CEO, he would be the one vilified in this thread. Or (LOL), if Eddy Cue had become CEO. I'm sure we would've seen hours and hours of CGI baby Eddy dancing, on Cue.

Sure, anyone would've been similarly beat down... provided they followed the same Tim Cook MBA mindset of success, rather than focusing on the quality and reliability of the product as the leader to success.

That mindset, and today's Apple, is described well by an old Steve jobs interview clip where he explains the failure of Xerox. Corporate arrogance and product names are almost the only surviving qualities of the previous incarnation of Apple.

Jobs was obsessive about things working. I wonder what he'd think of today's Apple product with functionality bugs lingering in four generations of iOS. People who worked around him have cited that what pissed off Jobs was when people didn't get pissed off about the things that weren't exactly right. The guy might've been a jerk of a human being, but he did seem to be driven by the product, not by the shareholder or the business administrator mindset. Apple pushed out much higher quality of product (especially software) under him than they've done since he stopped being in charge.

It's not like Jobs didn't have his own blind arrogance (the Apple IIgs suffered his game-playing early on, and I suspect he's also why Apple has never made a decent mouse), but he has proven to be one of the rare corporate executives who never lost sight of the core of doing business: make the best product and succeed because of it. It seems most other executives are in business to do business; the product is irrelevant. All the lateral executive job changes are a dead giveaway. Most successful corporations lose their founders and their founders' vision, to be replaced by "aggressive business tactics" to desperately cling to the status and profit margins originally provided by the founding vision. That's what Apple's leadership does now.

Maintenance mode on mature products is good for consumers and users. Maintenance mode of corporate dominance is bad for consumers and products.

Since Jobs is dead, we will never know his opinion on today's Apple. I often think he might say this again:

 
So if I don't agree with the GOV I can keep my TAX too?
:D Wouldn't that be nice if we could!

(Y' know, my post was a typical disgruntled taxpayer potshot, right? Not meant to be taken seriously or literally. Just checking, because I already had to explain that to another bloke in this thread).
 
How can I serve humanity? This is life's biggest and most important question.

You could start by allowing consumers to have the right to repair their Apple products. Or not practice planned obsolescence. Or sell products that aren't artificially priced. Or give consumers proper options. Or not evade taxes. Or not stifle innovation.

Thank you, sir. Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
lol how pathetic. It's as sad as when the companies who sell infinitely less cellphones take shots at Apple. Pssst, Tim, MS is killing you in the PC business.
 
The great thing about Windows and Linux is that they let you choose your hardware vendor.
Apple should just get out of the computer hardware business and subdivide into two companies: one to make phones, another to market OSX (or whatever name you want) for use on PC hardware where it could compete with Windows and Linux as a PC system.
 
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Slamming? Hardly. He was just mixing humor along with his speech. I have No idea why everybody wants to tear every word Cook says apart. It's ludicrous.
We can't figure out why some of you are willing to jump in front of a bullet for Cook. They guy is a tool. He will get zero respect form me until he does something with Apple that puts it back on course. He's heading in the right direction with the renewed pro support. But for those of us that switched to Windows....its going to take a lot more than an overpriced iMac that we didn't ask for.

In terms of his speech....predictable rubbish. Blah blah blah anti-Trump blah blah anti-Microsoft....blah....dreams come true.....blah blah....change the world. I had to watch Steve Jobs' after to be refill my inspiration tank.

You might say I don't like Tim because he's not Steve. You'd be wrong. I don't like Tim because he pushes his political and social beliefs on his customers and isn't focused on anything but profits. I am only glad us pro customers spoke with our wallets and voices and we're finally heard loud and clear. Tim can earn my respect once he recognizes the pros more and delivers a desktop that isn't a $5k iMac but a Mac I can put a video card of my choosing in. He can keep his ATI rubbish. But I won't hold my breath. The iMac Pro was a rushed attempt to build something without spending money on design, displays, or a lot of R&D. It's a quick fix. Too bad pros don't want an intergrated display.

I'm my opinion Tim has no business being on that stage telling graduates anything until he does something worth it. He is just a CEO of a large company that was next in line. He is no Steve Jobs.....more like a SJW version of Gil Amilio.

That is my opinion....you can say anything you want....but you won't change that. Instead of replying with some pro Tim rant about positive and negative feelings...do something good for someone else as that will not be a waste of time and energy.
 
Of course, every corporation serves humanity. Just not all of it, but only a part. Let's call that part...hmm...shareholders !
 
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Although I admire most of his personal views, he definitely has to follow some presentation classes. To me he sounds like a religious messiah preaching to the audience.
 
We can't figure out why some of you are willing to jump in front of a bullet for Cook. They guy is a tool. He will get zero respect form me until he does something with Apple that puts it back on course. He's heading in the right direction with the renewed pro support. But for those of us that switched to Windows....its going to take a lot more than an overpriced iMac that we didn't ask for.

In terms of his speech....predictable rubbish. Blah blah blah anti-Trump blah blah anti-Microsoft....blah....dreams come true.....blah blah....change the world. I had to watch Steve Jobs' after to be refill my inspiration tank.

You might say I don't like Tim because he's not Steve. You'd be wrong. I don't like Tim because he pushes his political and social beliefs on his customers and isn't focused on anything but profits. I am only glad us pro customers spoke with our wallets and voices and we're finally heard loud and clear. Tim can earn my respect once he recognizes the pros more and delivers a desktop that isn't a $5k iMac but a Mac I can put a video card of my choosing in. He can keep his ATI rubbish. But I won't hold my breath. The iMac Pro was a rushed attempt to build something without spending money on design, displays, or a lot of R&D. It's a quick fix. Too bad pros don't want an intergrated display.

I'm my opinion Tim has no business being on that stage telling graduates anything until he does something worth it. He is just a CEO of a large company that was next in line. He is no Steve Jobs.....more like a SJW version of Gil Amilio.

That is my opinion....you can say anything you want....but you won't change that. Instead of replying with some pro Tim rant about positive and negative feelings...do something good for someone else as that will not be a waste of time and energy.

What did you think of the Keynote on Monday? Was it disappointing as you thought it would be with all the new hardware and iOS 11?
 
Finding loopholes isn't cheating if they're legal.

Pure greed? You know, folks in some third world nation may think your salary constitutes greed. So define greed for me.

Cheating is cheating, it's intent. You can legally cheat in sport....still cheating. Cheating is not about legal or illegal. You can cheat on your partner.....legally you are fine.... ;)is when people defend cheats, that says a lot.... look at historic sporting events plenty of examples of blatant cheating that the laws allowed and cheaters exposed....

Pure greed is when you publically support and preach social and moral issues and yet your company avoids taxes that would help fund those initiatives. Usually something the rich talk about to make themselves feel better about each other and yet pay less % in taxes than everyone else cause they have access to lawyers so find loopholes for them, and the concept of paying thier share is so foreign to them.

Feel free to have a conversation with someone on average salary about the loopholes they use.....they will give you blank looks, as the vast majority of the population complies to paying thier taxes with the intent of the law.
 
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People are misinterpreting Tim's comments.... what he really means is that by creating amazing displays he is helping this Hue-Manatee look good.
 
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