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It may change things, even if it doesn't for you.

Why not explain something that is not understood?

How does it harm you that I believe in (that particular) God, and you may or may not?

You don't have to reply if you don't want to (although I welcome discussion).

You are correct. What you believe does not harm me. Unless you go out there and talk about how gays are bad, immoral, whatever. Imagine being a little gay kid and hearing this kind of stuff every day. Imagine how it would ruin your self esteem. Imagine how it would scar you for life. You can't. Because you're too busy trying to convince all of us that being gay is against gods plan. And sure, you're doing it in a nice enough way, but you're utterly clueless about how your words affect others. Or you don't care. Which has pretty much been my experience with religious people.
 
Gays confront "Christians" because they are tired of "Christians" trying to justify discrimination with their mythological "belief". Seriously, if someone really considers "my 'god' hates that!" to be a valid base for laws regarding equality or same-sex marriage, then he deserves to get the according response. It is not intolerance to speak against someone trying to push his own mythological "belief" onto others, be it in a social manner or in the described legal manner.

I am not passionate about this issue either way - but I can tell you that you are typical of people who support gay marriage - 99% of people in favor of gay marriage are so ignorant about the reasons people oppose gay marriage that it is embarrassing. This issue has been in the news 10-15 years and only one side has learned anything. The other rages on about hate in their ignorance.

I know its tough for people to understand the real issues from the political but the people who want gay marriage are the aggressors in this issue by inventing a new right that has never ever existed - ever - out of thin air and then being shocked when the rest of society does not jump on board. I think gay marriage is harmless because marriage is DOA, gays don't even marry when they can so it is all showboating (tiny percentages), and who cares. But there are hundreds of reasons to oppose gay marriage that have nothing to do with God but no one knows about them because that would take mental effort, compassion, and empathy on the side of the people pushing for gay marriage and its so much easier to say, "THEY HATE US." But also so dumb.
 
How do you separate the two? If they adhere to the system, then by association you hate them because you hate the system.

really good question. I don't know if I have the exact answer to that.I do think that religion should not be exempt of critique. They do spread bigotry, misogyny and discriminatory behavior. I am only calling them out on it.

There is a whole study about the amygdala and how the brain stop processing information in a rational way. It been show that people who are confronted about their religious beliefs triggers the amygdala and prevents rational thinking. I am not an expert of the subject. You can google it if you want.
 
Why do gays feel the need to "come out"

Can't they just get on with their lives rather than making a big deal about their sexuality and advertising it to everyone?
 
Don't blame the word of God for humanities shortcomings.

We don't, we look at individuals such as yourself who twist and pervert the "word of God" to fit your personal agenda of hatred and bigotry. I pray you find the right path and redemption before being judged for the sins you have shown today.
 
They are illegal in the Netherlands and it works perfectly. 99% of the population has and never will be confronted by guns. There is less general violence and the prisons are more empty compared to the US.
The last time I was in the netherlands the Royal Marechaussee had machine guns.
 
Why do straights feel the need to "flaunt" their sexuality

Can't they just get on with their lives rather than making a big deal about their sexuality and advertising it to everyone in movies, commercials, bigotry?

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Name one thing I was wayyyy off about. Just one. Your reply literally had absolutely nothing to do with my post.

And, as "someone who teaches anthropology" you better know (for the sake of your students) that murder, cannibalism and pedophilia have been WIDELY accepted cultural norms among many indigenous tribes/cultures.


Yes thank you for sharing your knowledge with me, I'd never heard that before /Sarcasm.

That's really quite irrelevant as the issues that you talk about are incredibly culturally specific and require quite of cultural context to understand from a western perspective.

That really doesn't change the argument. How did the Arawaks learn how to treat each other without exposure to christianity?
 
Why do gays feel the need to "come out"

Can't they just get on with their lives rather than making a big deal about their sexuality and advertising it to everyone?

If gays hadn't "come out" in the past and present, the acceptance and equality of gays would be nowhere close to where it is are now. Of course some would prefer to see exactly that, but thankfully things aren't that way anymore and with every single gay who is coming out still these days the equality will gain strength.

Personally, I've come out to simplify my life and also get rid of those who have issues with gays .
 
I agree 100%. Why does the the world wonder why everything is a mess? Because we have CHOSEN against our Creators design and ways. All good things come from he who created this universe, including His gift of sexuality. But again, all that has been abused. Not JUST by the act of homosexuality either.

Completely delusional. You sound like one of these TV preachers, just before they got caught with a rent boy.
 
Why do gays feel the need to "come out"

Can't they just get on with their lives rather than making a big deal about their sexuality and advertising it to everyone?

Because it helps society accept it.

You don't cause a product to be accepted into society without advertising it.

You need to advertise it and make a big deal about it to sell a product to society.
 
I am not passionate about this issue either way - but I can tell you that you are typical of people who support gay marriage - 99% of people in favor of gay marriage are so ignorant about the reasons people oppose gay marriage that it is embarrassing. This issue has been in the news 10-15 years and only one side has learned anything. The other rages on about hate in their ignorance.

I know its tough for people to understand the real issues from the political but the people who want gay marriage are the aggressors in this issue by inventing a new right that has never ever existed - ever - out of thin air and then being shocked when the rest of society does not jump on board. I think gay marriage is harmless because marriage is DOA, gays don't even marry when they can so it is all showboating (tiny percentages), and who cares. But there are hundreds of reasons to oppose gay marriage that have nothing to do with God but no one knows about them because that would take mental effort, compassion, and empathy on the side of the people pushing for gay marriage and its so much easier to say, "THEY HATE US." But also so dumb.

Name five (out of hundreds...) of good reasons to oppose gay marriage that have nothing to do with God. Please enlighten us as to why consent adults, citizens of this country, tax payers should be denied the right to marry.
 
We don't, we look at individuals such as yourself who twist and pervert the "word of God" to fit your hatred and bigotry. I pray you find the right path and redemption before being judged for the sins you have shown today.
Think you need to go read my posts not one drop of hatred.
 
To be honest I'd prefer if people did keep their personal lives personal...

I was surprised when I saw this though! Isn't it kind of a bad thing if people look at someone else, their behaviour, dress etc. and say "oh look, he must be gay". So much for equality in 2014...

If you are heterosexual, please make sure in that case you never, ever tell anyone you're married to a woman, or have a girlfriend, or post photos of your kids on your screen lest anyone have to be confronted with your heterosexuality.

If you yourself are gay, please instead persuade all your heterosexual friends and family to keep their personal info to themselves.
 
There's a lot of hate in this thread.

Instead of lashing back at those you are intolerant, ignorant, and full of hate. let's retaliate with love, so that people reading this see how much support there is, not how much hate.

Let's not bother fighting back against people who let their personal beliefs hold them back from accepting and loving the world around them.

Tim Cook I'm proud of you.

Nicely done.

You're a classy, strong minded gentleman running one of the most successful brands in the world, a company that has inspired us and made our lives better.

I'm an ally. All the way.

To any young people reading this thread, worried about the amount of hate there is, it's just a result of people trying to fight fire with lighter fluid.

There's more support and acceptance out there than you know.

Thanks, Tim, for bringing about this conversation. It's time for us to come forward and show our support.

Finally! Someone here has a conscious
 
why? i don't see the need for anyone to have to publicly announce their sexuality. You don't see people come out publicly and announce they are heterosexual.

Read this thread all the way through and then if you don't see why we still need to promote that being gay is normal and nothing to be ashamed of then I have no hope for you.

People shouldn't have to come out but the world isn't perfect yet and high profile people saying they are gay and proud helps normalise it for society as a whole.
 
Why do gays feel the need to "come out"

Can't they just get on with their lives rather than making a big deal about their sexuality and advertising it to everyone?

What's your problem with it? I'm advertising my sexuality ever day I'm in public with my wife. Why should someone who is gay not do it?
 
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