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For me, the headphone only has one purpose, play music.....
For others, the headphone is for making phone calls. Still others want the headphone to perform active noise cancelation. Some might want other features, such as a small touch-sensitive display/controller to adjust the music or audio without having to get the phone out of their pocket.

But if you only want to listen to music on your headphones, you can do that using lightning or bluetooth headphones.
 
No, you seem to think there's something more important for an audio connection to do than transmit sound, I don't.

No matter what your want the "New" adapter to do, turn your house lights on and off, warm a bagel, send emojis; you still need an analog component at some point if you actually want to listen to something, that can't be avoided, do you really think Lightning with some jury-rigged redundant DAC is such a robust solution that it's going to sweep the industry?

Apple will just have another half-baked solution in 5 years (or less).

Dude you need to chill out. Don't buy it then.

Apple isn't a bone-headed company making stupid decisions for its flagship product. This'll create a huge bluetooth (multi platform!) headphone market. Everything will be wireless in a year or two, cheap ear buds to audiophile level, and the smartphone market benefits with the extra engineering space.

Wireless-only on a smart phone was inevitable given the pace. In the next few years I wonder if we'd even have any physical ports with wireless charging already here. Everyone saying it's a bad move are just resistant and bitter to change, which is understandable, but there are other options if it means that much to you. Things will be ok :)
 
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For others, the headphone is for making phone calls. Still others want the headphone to perform active noise cancelation. Some might want other features, such as a small touch-sensitive display/controller to adjust the music or audio without having to get the phone out of their pocket.

But if you only want to listen to music on your headphones, you can do that using lightning or bluetooth headphones.

My B&O H8 headphones can make calls, have active noise cancellation and a touch sensitive touch controller. And also sound much better over the 3.5mm jack. All those functions work via the 3.5mm.

I can also go wireless with them, and retain all the features that work via 3.5mm.
 
I'm an audio engineer and have some experience with in-ear monitors and fitting those. When I saw the AirPod, my immediate thought was that the rod that protrudes downward would help stabilize the ear bud. The reason is that the part that goes in the ear acts like a pivot point and the part hanging down, though light, would act like a pendulum. This would result in the ear bud hanging on on the lobe and main its position. Regular ear buds do this too to a degree and wires do tend to get pulled and the bud comes out. I think that from a design standpoint, these should work well.

The protrusions are used to house batteries for longer life and microphones for talking, Siri, etc. The pairing is indeed "magical" if it happens like they say. The big challenge in wireless is making it intuitive to switch from one device to the next in the same way that unplugging a wire and plugging it in works. I'm willing to bet that Apple has nailed that between devices.
 
Maybe the Airpods are magical because they disappear after you lose them or get mugged for them.

Like when Touch ID was introduced and there were bad guys out there lurking, waiting to cut off your finger to get access to your phone.

Yeah, that never happened either...
 
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Its cause headphone can only do one thing, play analogue sounds.


i think that's a pretty shortsighted view. think of a phone in 1995.. it did exactly one thing. think of a phone now.

headphones could morph to similar or greater impact than the phone.

it could be the thing that gets the computers on our bodies instead of in our pockets. that's what my point was
...not glasses.. not VR goggles.. not a watch.. headphones.


If you want a heads up display, retina recognition , apple pay etc in your headphones, sure lightning cap add those.....but fundementally the "sound" component of those headphones, will always be analogue.

two different ports, one of which is entirely redundant?

the idea is to eliminate all the ports.. that's going to happen relatively soon. the plans are already there.. they'd get rid of the lighting port right now if they could. they can get rid of the 3.5 now because they can.. so they did.

technology moves forward.. always. i think a lot of people just don't recognize it while it's happening.

Can I ask, what don't current headphones do for you today, that you would like them to do in the future? Lets forget connection method for now.

3D audio? that'd probably be sweet.
but it's not really a question of what i want my headphones to do.

what i'd like is an augmented reality hardware that works well and something i'd be willing to have on my body.
i personally think it would be sweet to have the hardware in the realm of contact lenses but i think we'll see it first (and soon) in headphones.



For me, the headphone only has one purpose, play music.....
i'll ask you again in 10 years ;)
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I really miss Jobs doing those speeches , you can tell he really knows the product so well, its passionate about it and was involved in the development of it. None of this magical crap. Passion for the product and not the profit comes to mind, the biggest difference between Tim and Steve.

huh? did you listen to the actual words Jobs was saying?
"the imac is sheik.. not geek!"

can you imagine if tim cook said that?! this forum would explode..

for reference, here's what sheik means:
Slang. a man held to be masterful and irresistibly charming to women.

even if actual word was used in the roasting, chic.. same thing.
 
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My B&O H8 headphones can make calls, have active noise cancellation and a touch sensitive touch controller. And also sound much better over the 3.5mm jack. All those functions work via the 3.5mm.

I can also go wireless with them, and retain all the features that work via 3.5mm.
Pretty cool. I'd wait until they had a lightning cable option, so I wouldn't have to bother with the adapter.

I also like the idea of using the iPhone's battery to power the ANC on a less bulky pair of headphones.
 
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Sorry but I 100% don't believe that these stay in while running. I shall stick with my jaybird x2 Bluetooth headphones ($80 on amazon!).
 
Instead of keep talking to the media about nothing Tim should leave the CEO position so a competent person can take over

research and development is now in the billions but Apple product line is a total mess

if he would have gone in vacation for 4 years and left Forestall in charge,
Apple would have had new and much better products

at least Forestall cared
 
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I'm an audio engineer and have some experience with in-ear monitors and fitting those. When I saw the AirPod, my immediate thought was that the rod that protrudes downward would help stabilize the ear bud. The reason is that the part that goes in the ear acts like a pivot point and the part hanging down, though light, would act like a pendulum. This would result in the ear bud hanging on on the lobe and main its position. Regular ear buds do this too to a degree and wires do tend to get pulled and the bud comes out. I think that from a design standpoint, these should work well.

The protrusions are used to house batteries for longer life and microphones for talking, Siri, etc. The pairing is indeed "magical" if it happens like they say. The big challenge in wireless is making it intuitive to switch from one device to the next in the same way that unplugging a wire and plugging it in works. I'm willing to bet that Apple has nailed that between devices.

Can you switch to an android device or surface magically?
 
Although I've always been a little concerned about wireless vs health...

Ha ha :) It's funny!
If you had some sort of magical glasses that could let you see all the radio waves storming on you, particularly in the urban areas, you will see that worrying about wireless ear-peace is like worrying about getting wet by a rain when you swimming in the ocean. We are bombarded by radio waves everywhere, we just can't see it.
 
You see a lot of analog signals going through usb-c?

Geez Flat Five, What part of Analog vs Digital don't you understand, and don't tell me you've got cochlear implants

I actually see analog signals going through usb-c.

USB Type-C standard is capable of transmitting analogue audio through the interface’s Sideband Unit (SBU) pins.
 
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The only thing you all can reply to is when he said they're magical? Really? So when he said the cable pulls down on the headphones, and by cutting it off it helps them stay in place, there's no "ohhh that makes sense" or even "that's BS! Here's why!" That's seriously pathetic. Mindless hate because it's Apple, that's all it is. If you (everyone who's avoiding a response because they have none) provided some constructive criticism, positive or negative, it would at least be respectable.
 
I'm looking forward to these. I'll buy them. They are cheaper then the Bragi ones. And, I think he (Tim Cook) is right. When I use the EarPods, it is usually the wires that seem to pull them out of my ears. To combat this I use these cheap little silicone earhooks designed to fit them I found on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Earhoox-EarP...473833012&sr=8-1&keywords=earhoox+for+earpods

They work pretty well, and will probably work on the Airpods if necessary.

Apple can have my money (more of it) in late October when they are released!
 
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